“serious concerns have arisen over the conduct and performance of Ian Perkin as the Director of Finance and as a consequent breakdown in confidence in his ability to carry out the requirements of his role to the satisfaction of myself as the Chief Executive and the Senior Executive team. The issues relate primarily to: (i) your management style and ability to represent and advise the Trust in a positive and supportive manner; and (ii) your ability to form the necessary quality of relationships with external advisors, stakeholders and other external agencies to ensure the Trust interests are best preserved and advanced”. 5. The disciplinary hearing was initially convened on12 September 2002 . In fact it extended over four further days, 7 and 8 October and 4 and 5 November. It was chaired by Ms McLoughlin assisted by a Mrs Mark. Objection was taken to her chairing the meeting. The fact that she chaired it was in due course as we shall demonstrate to lead the Employment Tribunal to conclude that the disciplinary procedure was unfair. Evidence was presented on behalf of the Trust to the disciplinary hearing including evidence from Ms Grant, the Director of Operations and Nursing whose evidence was to the effect that she had no confidence in being able to work with Mr Perkin as an Executive colleague. Evidence was given by Professor Jones, the Professor of Respiratory Medicine and the Medical Director of the Trust to the effect that Mr Perkin was intimidating during meetings, would refuse to discuss things, would adopt the attitude that “that is my position and I am not moving from it” and would refuse to discuss matters that the medical staff had problems with. Professor Jones reported that it was the general consensus among managers of Service Centre Chairs that Mr Perkin should leave. In a document Professor Jones summed up the concerns of himself and colleagues as follows: “I have major concerns about the attitude of the Director of Finance within the Executive team. He appears to be aloof, stubborn and at times intimidating in his frank refusal to listen to other’s request. There is a continual sense of “won’t do” as opposed to “I am not sure but I’ll see what can be done.” 6. During the hearing Mr. Perkin either personally or through his representative suggested that a fellow Finance Director of another Trust a Mr Esterman was lying. Of greater significance, he pursued the accusation about the Chief Executive that he had foreshadowed at the investigatory meeting. The Tribunal noted: “The Chief Executive, Mr Hamilton was then questioned about his integrity and in particular his holding out that he held CIPFA (Chartered Institute of Public Finance and Accountancy) membership on his application form for Chief Executive, when it was not true. The reality was that Mr Hamilton had the qualification but was no longer a member. Mr. Perkin actually raised the matter with CIPFA who accepted that Mr Hamilton had not been dishonest.” 7. In his statement of case presented, we are told, after the first day of the disciplinary hearing but before the second he made the following statement: “The Chief Executive is not a man of integrity, he is in fact a bully who is prepared to lie or bend the truth whenever it suits his purpose.”
“….. these events (this was a reference to events in November 1999 concerning the reimbursement of payment of£540.00 to pay for dinner to mark the retirement from office of a former chairman) demonstrate that the Chief Executive is an individual of low integrity making him unfit to hold such a senior position and also shows ‘why he is seeking to remove me as Finance Director’.” 8. In summary Mr Perkin responded to the accusations against him of being a difficult colleague with whom to work by launching an attack upon the honesty and integrity of his immediate superior. Ms McLoughlin with Mrs Mark’s assistance took just under a month to reach and formulate their decision. By a letter dated4 December 2002 they set out their conclusions which resulted in their decision that Mr Perkin should be dismissed from his post as Director of Finance with immediate effect but with pay in lieu of notice of six months. The reasons they gave were as follows: “We concluded from the evidence we heard .… that you have failed to engage the Service Centre Chairs and other clinicians and this resulted in a loss of confidence in you as the Director of Finance for the Trust. We would expect you as a senior financial executive within the organisation to contribute constructively to finding a solution to the problem but instead your disabling and negative approach has led us to conclude that your relationship with the executive team has broken down.”
“In relation to your relationships with external advisers, stakeholders and other external agencies, we also found that you had failed to establish the quality of relationships necessary to preserve and advance the Trust’s interests.”
“In the circumstances, therefore, we have reached the view that your conduct and behaviour has been such that you are not able to discharge effectively the role of Financial Director with the Trust.”
“First, at several points during the hearing you were asked if you had tape recorded conversation with Ian Hamilton and Simon Sharp and you refused to answer the question. We concluded that you did tape these conversations. To do so with an internal colleague is in our view highly questionable conduct, to do so with an external adviser (that was a reference to Mr Sharp of Price Waterhouse Cooper) is wholly unacceptable. Second, during the disciplinary process we became increasingly concerned about the effect your conduct during the hearing was having on your relationships with the Chief Executive and others. Whilst you are of course entitled to defend yourself against allegations made against you, to have done so by engaging in personal attacks, extending on occasions to abuse, against Ian Hamilton and other witnesses with whose evidence you disagreed has resulted in the situation where we do not see you could ever work together again. Even if, therefore, we had decided that the allegations had not been made out, your conduct would still have led us to the conclusion that you cannot return to a senior position within the Trust.”
“Where, in the circumstances known at the time of dismissal, it was not reasonable for the employer to dismiss without giving an opportunity to explain but facts subsequently discovered or proved before the Industrial Tribunal showed that dismissal was in fact merited, compensation would be reduced to nil”
“There is no need for an ‘all or nothing’ decision. If the Industrial Tribunal thinks there is a doubt whether or not the employee would have been dismissed, this element can be reflected by reducing the normal amount of compensation by a percentage representing the chance that the employee would still have lost his employment.” 20. The reasoning of the Tribunal in this case is in our view adequately set out in paragraphs 47, 48 and 49 of its decision. The conclusion which the Tribunal reaches namely that Mr. Perkin was unable to function in the way required by membership of the senior management team to permit that team to function effectively in our view is beyond criticism. It is clear that in paragraph 48 the Employment Tribunal treated the conduct of Mr. Perkin before the disciplinary hearing as illustrative of the difficulties that his colleagues had experienced before that hearing for this purpose. 21. Mr Langstaff submits that given that on a proper analysis up to the disciplinary hearing this was not strictly defined a conduct case means that a different outcome might have been possible had Mr. Perkin been treated differently. The answer to that proposition is as the Tribunal found to be given by his conduct at the disciplinary hearing. In essence he demonstrated by his conduct at the hearing that there was no possibility that if he had been given a chance he would have mended his ways because he either was incapable of recognising or unwilling to recognise that there was anything wrong in his own actions or anything that made it difficult for his colleagues to work as part of a team with him. “Where, in the circumstances known at the time of dismissal, it was not reasonable for the employer to dismiss without giving an opportunity to explain but facts subsequently discovered or proved before the Industrial Tribunal showed that dismissal was in fact merited, compensation would be reduced to nil”. “There is no need for an ‘all or nothing’ decision. If the Industrial Tribunal thinks there is a doubt whether or not the employee would have been dismissed, this element can be reflected by reducing the normal amount of compensation by a percentage representing the chance that the employee would still have lost his employment.”
“We also would find Mr. Perkin by his conduct contributed to his dismissal to the extent of 100%”
“Such a construction would mean that the more serious the offence …. the less procedural protection the employee charged with misconduct would have”
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