“If there are two possible meanings, one less derogatory than the other, whether it is the more or the less derogatory meaning that the court should adopt is to be determined by reference to what the hypothetical reasonable reader would understand in all the circumstances. It would be unreasonable for a reader to be avid for scandal, and always to adopt a bad meaning where a non-defamatory meaning was available. But always to adopt the less derogatory meaning would also be unreasonable: it would be naïve.”
“(1) The court should give to the material complained of the natural and ordinary meaning which it would have conveyed to the ordinary reasonable viewer watching the programme once in 1985. (2) The hypothetical reasonable reader [or viewer] is not naive but he is not unduly suspicious. He can read between the lines. He can read in an implication more readily than a lawyer, and may indulge in a certain amount of loose thinking. But he must be treated as being a man who is not avid for scandal and someone who does not, and should not, select one bad meaning where other non-defamatory meanings are available (per Neill LJ, Hartt v. Newspaper Publishing PLC, unreported,26 October 1989 (Court of Appeal (Civil Division) Transcript No. 1015): our addition in square brackets). (3) While limiting its attention to what the defendant has actually said or written, the court should be cautious of an over-elaborate analysis of the material in issue. We were reminded of Diplock LJ's cautionary words in Slim v. Daily Telegraph Ltd[1968] 2 QB 157 at 171 [to avoid a minute linguistic analysis of every phrase and a protracted exercise in logical positivism]. In the present case we must remind ourselves that this was a factual programme, likely to appeal primarily to a seriously minded section of television viewers, but it was a programme which, even if watched continuously, would have been seen only once by viewers many of whom may have switched on for entertainment. Its audience would not have given it the analytical attention of a lawyer to the meaning of a document, an auditor to the interpretation of accounts, or an academic to the content of a learned article. In deciding what impression the material complained of would have been likely to have on the hypothetical reasonable viewer we are entitled (if not bound) to have regard to the impression it made on us.”
“9. It is important to acknowledge that assessing the meaning(s) of an hour long television programme is to a large extent a matter of impression. Yet it is also necessary to remember that the test is objective, so that one must always have in mind how the reasonable viewer would interpret it. Nonetheless, it is recognised in the authorities that the judge can take into account his or her own subjective reaction as part of the process. Beyond that, one must not be over-analytical, in the sense of subjecting the text to a leisurely or legalistic breakdown: ordinary viewers will not have had that opportunity. The overall flavour of a programme may contribute to an interpretation which would not necessarily be found when subjecting the text to piecemeal analysis. There is a risk that such an exercise will focus on the trees and miss the wood.”
“...[T]he court should take as its starting point the general features of the article and the impact these are likely to have on how the words used strike the mind of the ordinary reader. It should bear in mind [1] the positioning within the paper of the article under examination (for instance whether it is in the news section or in an “op ed” piece or magazine); [2] the general nature of the subject matter dealt with in that article (news, political, social, financial or other); [3] who has written the material, if this is apparent (is it for example the paper’s political correspondent or an established commentator?); and [4] the form of expression the reader would be likely to expect from an article on this subject matter, positioned as it is, and by this or these author(s). It is against that background that the court should consider the particular statements in the article and assess, as far as possible at the same time, what if any defamatory meaning it conveys and the extent to which this is factual or comment. In performing this last task the court should be alert to the importance of giving free rein to comment and wary of interpreting a statement as factual in nature, especially where as here it is made in the context of political issues. In drawing the distinction the court should consider what the words in their context indicate to the reader about the kind of statement the author intends to make.”
“ Mubashar Luqman: I begin this special episode of Khara Such with the pure name of Allah and a blessed prayer. One has to seek Allah's support to open up one's tongue and to grant capacity to people to understand. Allah sent his pure Koran through his beloved Prophet Muhammad and its orders are the most supreme to us and we do not need to listen to anything else from anyone, except these orders. I mentioned this particularly because Allah's beloved Prophet Muhammad told us - and his words shall remain valid until the hereafter-to conduct jihad against wrong things, stand up against the cruel, and if you cannot do it, then speak against them, and if you cannot speak against them, then do it in your heart but jihad will last forever. (16:50)”
“ Mubashar Luqman: ….I shall continue my crusade against the "Desire for Peace." Whatever I have been saying, Allah has materialized it and revealed that they were true.”
“The internal inquiry conducted by Hindustan Times found that Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman, … - had many contacts in the Indian intelligence agencies. Upon Mr Shakil's instructions, his brother-in-law Mr Jahangir Siddiqui went to Bombay where he met Indian intelligence agencies' officials and a reporter of Hindustan Times. These intelligence officials forced the reporter to get this story published in such a way as to favour Jang and Geo Group. I ask Mr Zayd Hamid, what do you understand by this link between Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman, Mr Jahangir Siddiqui, Indian intelligence agencies, and Hindustan Times? Zayd Hamid: What you have told us, and the events you have described with reference to Mahmud Sham, if it happened as described, it is high treason against Pakistan and it brings to surface the relations of Geo Group with RAW and Indian intelligence. It will be a huge scandal about a Pakistani media group showing how journalism turns into rebellion and how information turns into info-terrorism. Mubashar Luqman: I gave you breaking news about a Hindustan Times story, which they later repudiated by saying that Indian intelligence agencies' officials had arm-twisted them into publishing this story written by Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman and Mr Jahangir Siddiqui in particular. Mubashar Luqman: Mr Zayd Hamid, tell me, now that Hindustan Times has retracted its story, it proves that Pakistan is not bad, Pakistan Army and its intelligence agencies are not bad our enemies spread poison against us and defame us in the entire world, as the idiom goes "They hide a knife in their armpit and say Ram, Ram". Zayd Hamid: The story you told about Hindustan Times internal inquiry, quoting Mahmud Sham, if it is true, an immediate criminal FIR must be lodged against Geo Group and Mir Shakil Zaid Hamid: An FIR must be lodged in this matter and if Mr. Mahmood Sham confirms that what he has written is true, then it must be investigated. Mubashar Luqman: He has told me this thing on the phone. Zaid Hamid: We are saying the same thing. Because there is evidence and witness is available, this is a plain case of treason. If this is forgiven then every war against terrorists should be stopped and every traitor must be forgiven for there is no use passing such laws in Pakistan as cannot be implemented.”
“We are saying the same thing. Because there is evidence and witness is available, this is a plain case of treason”
“Hindustan Times conducted an internal inquiry. We have the report and full investigations of this internal inquiry. These were very frightening. These stated that the driving spirit and owner of Jang and Geo Group, Mir Shakil-ur-Rehman, a very respectable name in Pakistan, Mir Shakil-ur-Rehmaan, especially his relations that he has with Indian intelligence agencies, However, according to their internal inquiry they stated that agents of RA or agents of Indian intelligence, upon the saying of Mir Shakil-ur-Rehmaan and Jahangir Siddiqui, especially had this story planted in Hindustan Times. They had this story published upon their saying so. stories like the one published by Hindustan Times greatly damage the inflow of investment to Pakistan especially when inward investment is scant and people are trying to shift their money out of Pakistan. Hindustan Times as an institution [did a great thing and any journalist would accept that when they found that their story was bouncing or they had no evidence to back it up, they] showed good character and decency by [immediately] withdrawing the story … But this does not end it over here in Pakistan because [when there is evidence] that Pakistan's largest and most powerful media organization, which daily reveals the corrupt practices of others and tells us [who] is right and [who] is wrong, has relationships with enemies of the country - not just relations but very deep relations - so deep that upon its word, they can do anything, and it even used theirmedia, Also especially joining us from USA is Mr Muhammad AM who is the former chairman of Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan: We will show you the letters he wrote to the Prime Minister of Pakistan, Mian Muhammad Nawaz Sharif, stating that Mir Shakil-ur- Rehmaan threatened to kill him and to get him dismissed from his job, because he had refused to entertain Mian Mansha's IPPs and Mr Jahangir Siddiqui. And he also states that Mir Shakil-ur- Rehmaan has done many other things of this kind Mr Dhayddy: … and I congratulate you for revealing such a huge scandal … I did not know that they are enemies of the country. I rather suggest that we should now declare a jihad against them. In no case should they be spared now. How can you spare them when they are working against the country? Mubashar Luqman: How did Mir Shakil develop relations with Indian intelligence agencies? Mr Dhayddy: … Now they are against the country which gave them so much, so much respect and honour - they built an empire; they became media tycoons; for what? For this?”
“More shocking than this news was the one published in The Hindustan Times ... It found that Mir Shakil-ur-Rehmaan in particular had strong links with the Indian agencies. And today, a Hindustan Times reporter told me that RA, the Indian intelligence service, is putting very strong pressure on The Hindustan Times to retract their story. Now a third link has appeared. Did Jang Group or Mir Shakil-ur-Rehmaan directly seek funding or obtain funding from the CIA or America? ... Let me be clear that some time back a proposal was submitted to America, to the American government. It was on30th June 2013 , and I have this complete document here with me which was submitted on behalf of Mir Khalil ur Rahman Foundation. And it was stated therein "what we people would do to build the image of the United States, and how we will reduce the animosity among the public against the United States". And in this proposal, it was admitted that Jang and Geo Group had previously pressurised the then Government in 2006, to abolish the Hadood Ordinance and Sharia Law, and The New York Times had mentioned this in one of its articles. I have the New York Times article which I will try to show you on the screen. New York Times admitted that this Group played a major role in blocking the implementation of the Islamic Law and Hadood Ordinance. Four regular programmes provided justification to the Government to amend this law and paved the way They are working on a project the aim of which is to develop a soft corner for India in the hearts of Pakistani people though, on the other side, India is shelling Pakistani border areas and [martyring] our soldiers … Not just this, with reference to changing public opinion, they conducted surveys in which they proved that "terror perception" had dropped by between 75 and 87 per cent. Not just surveys, they used editorials, TV programmes, and news to change the public opinion. Then it mentions the programme "Zara Sochiye" which was run with the funding of 20 million pounds obtained from the UK. Their proposal states that: A few things will remain as they are: Violence will remain in Pakistan; Pakistan will continue to be part of the war on terror; political uncertainties, energy crises, balance of payments issue will remain and there will be increased violence from extremist forces. I do not know if this was their analysis or their promise. You are watching on the screen this document which I have got hold of and if what I am saying is not right I respectfully request Mir Shakil-ur-Rehmaan to take this opportunity to come here and tell us that this document is false. Then they say that I put in planted shows. ... But I've been giving you opportunities to come and explain that all this is wrong and if this is not "planted" then what else can be called "planted?" ... In this proposal, they mention "Pakistan" as "the target country;" God forbid; God forgive; Pakistan has become a target for them now; I have seen poor people going to great lengths for money but... [Now] stories [were pouring in, that] GEO television, I am [mentioning names, that it had linkages] with Indian [television. For evidence I am showing you a] copy of Hindustan Times in which they [are saying, first they had given] a story that TV [is coming with the collaboration of] Dawood Ibraheem. [then when there was] a complaint, Hindustan Times retracted [their] story[, an old] editor of [Geo and] Jang, Mahmood Sham a senior [name] they [sent retracted their] story [through him, that] our internal inquiry[, with the collaboration of] Mir Shakeel Ur Rehman, Jahangir Siddiqui [with the collaboration of the] Indian [agency got together and orchestrated. The] Indian [agency has such involvement and had come up with this, if the Indian intelligence have such much involvement and also within the media as well.] Where the Indian [Agency has such extent of involvement and such a big name of our] media [is involved, what will your response be, sorry the question is so long.] Imran Khan: This is a very serious accusation. Mubashar Luqman: ... I think there was a mentioned in your programme, I wasn't able to watch the whole of your programme, but I was told about it. Listen this is a very serious issue. Imran Khan: This is a serious issue, if there is any reality in this it should come, there should be an inquiry into this, this is not a small allegation, it's a big allegation, if such a thing is happening and it involves the country. I mean if such a thing happens within the country, and any TV channel, any such thing… Mubashar Luqman: If ARY does this, then there should be an inquiry into ARY. Imran Khan: Any external influence, and especially to be influenced by outside agencies to start a propaganda in this country, it's absolutely wrong and there should be an inquiry held about this.”
“The Media commission also came to know that dramas produced by Indian producers are sold in Dubai and from there these programmes are imported into Pakistan. They also provided the example of "Desire for Peace" programme, which is funded by a Norwegian NGO called "Friends without Borders." When we look into the background of this funding, we find that it has connections with Indian sponsors including Indian state-owned TV channel "Door Darshan." The biggest question is that if your programmes are foreign funded [– funded by any country or in any category, and these programmes are named [in the same bid] -] and you do not mention them on screen as "paid content" or "advertising," or "advertorial" or "supplement," then you are telling a lie not only to your viewers, readers, to the government and tax payers [but also to the] courts of law and all regulating authorities because you are deliberately concealing this fact across the world. In any country, any television channel or newspaper cannot run a paid material by calling it "editorial content." This is an established fact and any journalist, senior to me and more talented than me, will tell you the same. The question is, when you submitted this bid, you mentioned in it the names of your TV programmes. You wrote that you would provide a certain number of episodes of "Zara Sochiye" and a certain number of "Capital Talk" episodes etc. It means that your programmes were there for sale, as you stated in this document. Today, I was talking to a top level media owner, a very reputable name in Pakistan. I asked him whether our laws or [the] Constitution allow one to receive money from foreigners and run TV programmes in accordance with the funding parties' wishes. For example, if Israel offered a huge sum to ARY in exchange for ARY favouring Israel's foreign policy in its programmes, and people are not told that this is an Israeli advertisement - rather the programmes appear like our editorial policy - then the people who have faith and trust in us will certainly fall victim to it. They will be victims of falsehood and deception. This document claims that the "Desire for Peace" is a campaign. It does not state that this will bring these two nations closer. It states that the "Desire for Peace" is a campaign for which money has been received. When you receive money, you are destroying Pakistani dramas, theatre, films, singers, musicians and Pakistani record labels because you have taken money to run something which does not arise in any way from our own culture and social values. What next? Here I see Indian intelligence agencies; here I see CIA; here the name of MI6 surfaces; I was hurt upon reading this published report of WikiLeaks. Further, they wrote: [(In English)] Many of the reporters have political agendas and are paid by… After the above sentence, we find the names of the agencies; there is the name of a party too. Moreover, since 2010, Geo Group has been working in collaboration with the Indian newspaper The Times of India … on the "Desire for Peace" Project with an objective to create soft corner for India in the hearts of Pakistanis. On the other side, India is shelling and killing our army men on the borders. Not only this, they conducted surveys to change public opinion. In this regard, their TV programme "Zara Sochiye" has been mentioned, which received 20 million pounds funding from UK. These 20 million pounds were mentioned in the House of Lords document too. Mr Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman, I will place a chair here for you. Take as much as ten days but please provide your response. I will humbly and silently listen to your reply. Pakistani people should know who is getting money from whom - from India, England, or CIA or from all of these; people should know why he is receiving money and what is he doing to this county.”
“When we look into the background to his funding, we find that it has connections with Indian sponsors…”
“You might remember that in the last three days, Islamabad High Court issued an order stating that I should not say anything against the Jang Group or Geo or their officials which may be categorized as defamation. But let me tell you. They admitted two things. One: Their editorial content was paid for. Money was given for it. a certain amount of money was received to make programmes. It means that the Desire for Peace Campaign is also being paid for. I am saying that a company from Norway is running it and there are proofs and relations behind it that connect it to India. Mubashar Luqman: Is it a fact that Indians are giving money to run content on our media? Humayun Gohar: You see, we are all Muslims and we should not make allegations without proof. I do not have the evidence but it is a fact that there are doubts against not just one channel but many channels. WhenMr Musharraf allowed freedom tochannels, it led to media proliferation without regulations. Media freedom appeared but they got it only by legacy and they started to sell their freedom to foreign and domestic powers. Sabir Shakir: Mr Mubashar! We have been waiting for the past 8 or 10 years for the Chief Justice or the Supreme Court to take notice in what manner the offices of the President, the Army, and our institutions were being ridiculed - and there is no reduction in this even now - I would say that even Islamic traditions are being ridiculed and insulted;there is no such thing as national dignity or the sanctity of the nation Mubashar Luqman: … The question is: Should there be no inquiries in Pakistan when India's ill-famous RAWprovides funds to someonein Pakistan, or funds come from Durdarshan, even if it is through an indirect way? Should there be no inquiries and punishments? If it is proved that funds are taken from CIA and Britain and their foreign policy is being implemented here, whether it be the policy about drone or any other aspect, should there be no inquiries held? Mubashar Luqman: Who are "them?" Humayun Gohar: Those you are making allegations against. Mubashar Luqman: You mean Mir Shakil Ur Rahman? I am not making allegations; I have already proved.”
“I neither fear anyone nor bow to anyone except Allah”
“I just talk about facts. I just report. I have reports. I am just presenting these reports.”
“That a certain amount of money was received to make programmes.”
“Should there be no inquiries in Pakistan when India’s ill-famous RAW provides funds to someone in Pakistan…?”
“ If it is proved that funds are take from CIA and Britain…. Should there be no inquiries held?”
“ Mubashar Luqman: Who are “them”? Humayun Gohar: Those you are making allegations against. Mubashar Luqman: You mean Mir Shakil Ur Rahman? I am not making allegations. I have already proved.”
“…according to the spokesman of Jang and Geo, who is the Administrator of the institution, i.e. Administrator? Who is the main force behind it, who is the Administrator? Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman, Administrator of the institution Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman is watching this programme sitting in Dubai at this time. Lord Nazir is again with me. Who does not speak the truth Lord Nazir, he is a liar who does not speak the truth? Lord Nazir Ahmed: Look! My name is not “Mir”, my name is “Nazir”
“…what letter PEMRA wrote; PEMRA said: “Where you have permission for only 6 per cent Indian content, only 6 per cent, there you are airing 400 per cent Indian content and Pakistan Idol is being shot under the nose of Asif Raza Mir sahib wherein Indian songs are being sung with a lot of fanfare … PEMRA responded, “License shall not be granted to any person, funded and sponsored by a foreign government or organization”
“Breach of S-25D of PEMRA Ordinance 2002 and S-1G Code of Conduct of PEMRA Rules 2009 . You got foreign funding and you… spirit of these sections… blah Blah Blah foreign funding. What did they say further: Behind the wheel of Mir Khalil-ur-Rehman Foundation, Geo Group has submitted a campaign, proposal dated June 30, 2013, to the bureau of democracy, human rights and labour United States Department of States…”
“Anyways… And, and…that Indian TV channels and print materials are available easily. And the increasing acceptability or interference has weakened the morale of Pakistani nation to such an extent that now it sees India as undefeatable. This news item has been published by The News and Jang newspaper… And this is my fight… this is my fight against these newspapers, against the owners of these newspapers, that they don’t let go any opportunity to hit out at the institution of Pakistan Armed Forces, or the institutions of Pakistan which are responsible for the security of Pakistan… they don’t miss any opportunity to try to damage them or not to humiliate at international level Pakistan and those institutions which are responsible for a symbol of Pakistan’s prestige. Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman Baba Ji, your chair is lying today again, but you are still in Dubai, along with your family. And you don’t have courage that you come, and you contest here. And I tell you Baba Ji, how much your news story is wrong. For your kind information that… from where your news story has been generated. When I had…when I had told you that linkages with RAW, Aman ki Asha with India, and money, then you had reacted sharply; you wrote a long article in newspaper that an anchor-person is talking this and that against us. Today also you were in the court against me…your counsel, and he was saying that I am defaming. How am I defaming? Sunday Standard of Indian Express is lying before me. The entire news item you lifted from there and published here with your names. It was published there the day before yesterday, this entire news item of Indian Express … you lifted it from there word by word, as it is … they published it there against the Pakistan Army and you published it here. Whose agenda are you forwarding? Baba Ji! ... Stop following Hindu… Hindustani media’s fake news stories; stop publishing under your names … Please, learn respecting the Armed Forces of Pakistan and all institutions of Pakistan. Only they can guarantee security of Pakistan. Neither we nor you are going to fight if God forbid anything happens… these are the people who will fight, and you are proving to be a source of their humiliation. Faisal Raza Abaidi: … This is my wish that Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman… Mubashar Luqman: … Baba Ji won’t let any analysis on it. He cannot arouse the ire of America, cannot afford making India angry. Mubashar Luqman: … In the guise of Aman ki Asha, if any country comes and pursues the CIA agenda, or Mossad agenda, how come the law will let it go? Mubashar Luqman: … corruption of Baba Ji Mubashar Luqman: … Baba Ji you have to give questions why you disgrace Pakistan Army why you dishonour security departments of Pakistan and what harm given to you by Pakistan”
“Then came forth third story which was reproduced yesterday in order to malign and bring a bad name to ISI and Pakistan Army. Again this was reproduced verbatim by Indian Express. A few days before the story was published in Indian Express, this story was published in the Hindustan Times. This story was nothing but ISI-bashing and totally army-bashing. Baba Ji what do you get in return for publishing these stories? The country that gave you everything, gave you to the extent that they tolerate your every wrong. No government ever asks anything from you. No court asks you anything. No man in the street asks you as to what did the wig cost you. But you are gnawing at the roots of the country and you are destroying this very country. What next? Baba Ji, … . And many people have asked me why do you call him Baba Ji? Mr. Mir, let me tell you that in your name comes the word Rahman. Rahman is the sacred name of Allah and it is a very beautiful name. I cannot make fun of your name in this way, that my Creator, my God should … that it might seem so, God forbid that I’ve I can never utter a wrong word with the name that is either Rahman or Rahim or the names it these are attached with. And Baba Ji is worthy of respect, which is what we call our elders. And I cannot call you Uncle, because obviously there is difference in our bloodlines. I am loyal to my country, I am loyal to my country’s army, I am loyal to my country’s institutions. I don’t want to take money from Hindustan … and I don’t want to take money from CIA. That is why Baba Ji is fine!”
“Baba Ji please come and give your stance and whatever you will say, I promise, I will listen silently. I will ask you only four questions and the questions are about corruption, about getting money from foreign governments, about changing your editorial content … Ethically it is very wrong that you keep on taking funds from external powers and here you show the paid content and try to change the ideology of Pakistan according to their wishes and try to manipulate our values, whether they are social or religious values. For me there is only one meaning of Pakistan: “there is no one but Allah”, and, if your campaigns talk about changing it then is it not a point to ponder that this is the worst case of journalism? Those people who want to become uncles of India, tell them for God’s sake do not cause damage to the country for their small financial gains. This country is yours. Quaid-i-Azam gave it to you to make a nation; do not make it a note-making machine; .. at first I want to ask a question to Baba Ji: Baba Ji, is it true that you tried to change the ideology of Pakistan after taking money from other governments in the “Zara Sochiye” campaign. Two types of people cannot survive in Pakistan, remember my words: one who is blasphemous of the Prophet Muhammed and is against Islam, and the second who is against the integrity of Pakistan, who reeks of ties to the Indian intelligence agencies and RAW. Pakistanis are very clear on these two issues. We have received a news that a behind-the-curtain campaign is going on, it’s a new campaign of Baba Ji in which every man who has unmasked his disgusting plans after coming on this programme … whether it is the talk of getting funds from the CIA, whether it is talk about Aman Ki Asha, whether they are stories published in the Hindustan Times or whether they are stories published in the Indian Express, whether they are stories reproduced here or the stories reproduced there in which the linkages are the circumstantial evidence and the evidence of Indian intelligence agencies can be seen in these linkages. Now they are planning to start a campaign against every such person, from Monday to discredit them. Your name is also in that campaign Aqeel Dhedhi Sahib, congratulations to you. Aqeel Karim Dhedi: No, no, it is a very good thing. Because if they write against us before the enemies of the country, we will be pleased; we have no regret because we know one thing that whatever we say, it will be true, and we say nothing except the truth, and, by the grace of Allah, whatever they will say, it will be a lie, and they will say nothing except lies and this is the biggest point. Mir Sadiq and Mir Jafar, all these roles are for the world to see now and now Mir Shakil Sahib has surfaced and is following in the their footsteps. So, we are pleased that such people are being unmasked before the people and all the credit goes to you that the name which everybody was afraid of citing, today, you see, see the social media and listen to the ordinary people, everybody is talking about him and they are not speaking anything good of him. I think that you have placed him in such a situation that now this programme, I think, has become his only option, as well because he needs to save face, but he has no excuse, this is the difference. Aqeel Karim Dhedi: … I think those who are the enemies of the country, this land should be made difficult for them. It is only a request to the, people, for God's sake, to get rid of them and the only way to get rid of them is to at least not read the newspapers that benefit the enemies of the country.”
“…it is a special episode today Baba Ji… a new conspiracy has come to be known…”
“…about corruption, about getting money from foreign governments, about changing your editorial content…”
“Baba Ji, it is true that you tried to change the ideology of Pakistan after taking money from foreign governments…”
“Aqeel Karim Dhedhi: … especially whom you call Baba Ji; I won’t call him Baba Ji, because Baba Ji (word) is a very respectable name in my eyes… so, I will, at least, request you also that you don’t call Mir Ja’afar and Mir Sadiq of this country, Baba Ji. Because he is the same guy who has pushed this country to the brink of disaster that nobody can even think of; unfortunately, organizations have been rendered paralyzed at his hands. You have talked of 22-page crime (report)… I swear to God, I don’t tell a lie, the number of crimes they have committed … Shakil-ur-Rahman Sahib, Mir Sahib and Ja’afar Sadiq Sahib … It means there is something wrong Baba Ji or Mir Ja’afar or Mir Sadiq get certain things done, using their stick (influence). But I say one thing to them with guarantee that, after this act, their days will also be numbered. All this happiness that they are rejoicing, they (or he) will get pain out of the same happiness because they have caused so much damage to the country. … I feel sorry for the fact that their team of journalists in Islamabad ... Their job is to be on sale. They will sleep with the person who gives them higher price than yours. Then they call themselves media. I think they are shameful blemishes on the name of media … And yes, these are the terms of Mir Ja’afar Sahib and he gets his people saved. It is his power; we acknowledge it. But this race won’t last long because of the number of crimes he has committed. Mubashar Luqman: ... Baba Ji, in this book, there are many questions to you. I tell you there are some questions. … nor have you told anything about ‘Aman Ki Asha’’s Indian funding. Aman ki Asha Natasha whatever it is; in this, you mind it and get disheartened. Whenever the name of India is cited and anything is said about India, then Baba Ji’s heart-sinking starts suddenly; medicine has to be given to him. And you didn’t tell that after taking British funding, why have you been trying to hide it and you also didn’t tell that in order to transform the Pakistani judiciary according to the American desire, why did you ask the State Department, American State Department for three million dollars? And how come you protect the Indian interests by publishing the Hindustan Times’ story and news against the Pakistan Army? … Aqeel Karim Dhedhi: I cannot understand one thing that why the entire government is sitting at his feet. What is the reason? That this Mir Shakil, we will only say Mir Ja’afar because in my opinion… Aqeel Karim Dhedi: … People are afraid of your Mir Ja’afar and Mir Sadiq. I am ashamed of our people that they are afraid of the traitors of this era, I think. Aqeel Karim Dhedi: … Baba Ji or Mir Ja’afar Mubashar Luqman: … Baba Ji or your Mir Ja’afar, Mir Sadiq…”
“Baba Ji, is there anything that has been said about you without a proof… which proofs you have yourself published : have published in your replies. You have admitted yourself in them … you submitted to CIA for money… what is left now to confess to? … Is it wrong that you published maligning stories and fabricated stories against Pakistan’s institution, Pakistan Armed Forces, Pakistan’s intelligence agencies? Is it wrong that you (did not) bend backwards to link Ajmal Kasab and Pakistan and ISI, all of them, to please the Indians? And isn’t it true that you asked the US State Department for many million dollars through CIA and you presented your programmes for sale. You said this programme, this programme, this programme - we will air these many episodes for you. Isn’t it true that after taking it as paid advertisement you have been showing it on your channel as public service campaign, and you lied to the people,…”
“Babi Ji, is there anything that has been said about you without a proof…which proofs you have yourself published: have published in your replies. You have admitted yourself in them that… you submitted to CIA for money…what is left now to confess to?”
“I tell you that I have filed a petition with the Lahore High Court this morning. I myself have submitted it, not through the counsel that the licence of Geo and the declaration of Jang and News should be cancelled. Because I am clear and have been talking about this on TV that the enemies and traitors of Pakistan have no right to live in the country, they should not get the benefit from the country. We will not let succeed the person and institution that violates Pakistan, Pakistan's institutions and constitution at any cost here. I always say two words to my friends that two kinds of people cannot develop in the country. God forbid the blasphemer of the Prophet has neither place nor respect here and the other is the blasphemer of Pakistan. We will not tolerate the insult or venom spitting against all the institutions which are linked to the solidarity of the country and with which Pakistan's past, present and future is attached. It was the content of the petition that I submitted today. I tell you a development, but two developments. The FIR of the attack on Hamid Mir Sahib could not be registered so far. The owners of Geo TV are stopping the FIR. Yesterday I told you that Hamid Mir was called to Karachi against his will. The Geo vehicle was not sent for transmission, the vehicle of Hertz Company was sent. Who is the owner of this company? This is the matter that requires a lot of thinking. This company is owned by Jahangir Siddiqui, the 'Samdhi' of Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman. This company's vehicle was sent. Today you might have listened to the self-declared interview after four days, if you are among the people who watch Geo. I do not watch. I have been told. Alhamdullilah! I appeal to all my friends that they should boycott every newspaper or channel that commits any act or spits venom against the values of Pakistan. I come to a small question which I want to ask from the nation before I take a break that forensic evidence is tempered with, police was not asked regarding it, car was washed immediately and was not allowed to be taken into police custody, because they got evidences from it and what they said after it that gunman and driver were not being given in custody, evidence of blood specimen etc were not allowed to be taken, if something happened to Hamid Mir, then whether Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman was not the beneficiary in the world, and could it be possible that Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman was involved in it. I have short time and before leaving I will tell you again that who is enemy of the Pakistan Army is an actually traitor of the country and I have no doubt in it and for this reason today I have filed a petition in a Lahore High Court. … this face of Baba Ji without wig, yes without wig, that Baba Ji, no one can be allowed to become Mir Jafar and Mir Sadiq in the country and ... From today you promise to boycott, boycott, boycott Jang, News and Geo…”
“I will tell you again that who is the enemy of the Pakistan army is actually a traitor of this country”
“And today’s topic is the same again: Baba Ji’s somersaults. Previously, Baba Ji tried his best that Pakistan’s national and security institutions could be defamed. But after that when he realized that people of Pakistan were not paying any heed to his baseless, crude and offensive allegations rather were showing reaction to it, then he immediately took a somersault. ... Let me tell you that very frightful things are coming before us during the past four days. Let me refresh your memory that the Sindh police-the Karachi police- are under severe pressure currently- under severe pressure- because some of Baba Ji’s employees have occupied a particular police station in Karachi, are ensconced there continuously; ( they) are also taking tea, also having meals… where an FIR should have been registered, so far no clear-cut FIR about that incident could be registered. And the main reason for it is that the driving spirit of Geo and Jang Group has kept it blocked. Not now, when he will want so, it will be registered. Within two hours, he got washed the vehicle that had been attacked… it was sent to car wash, and did not give it in police custody. Rather the forensic evidence, if there was that was destroyed entirely from (within) the crime scene. And he is the same Baba Ji, and I am talking of the crime scene, about which he had told us a lot at the time of martyrdom (Shahadat) of Benazir Bhutto… you talk (you said) that how big a sin that was of General Pervez Musharraf i.e getting the crime scene washed. ... And after that, the driver and the gunman have not been given in the police custody. Their statements were not permitted to be recorded. And then, I think, the name of Hamid Mir Sahib who is a genuine victim and who got injured there has been used wrongly. I have lots of sympathy for him and his family. Firstly, it was learnt that Hamid Mir did not want to go to Karachi. He had severe security concerns. ... Then a car was called from the company of Jehangir Siddiqui, who is Baba Ji’s Samdhi (father-in-law of Baba Ji’s child). A new driver was called out, there was a gunman also. Nobody knew… Only a few people of the same organization… four to five people knew that Hamid Mir Sahib would come there. What time he would come out of the airport, where he would be, what would be his route… … And it is regretted that the prime minister managed to visit Hamid Mir Sahib to enquire after him sparing some time out of his busy schedule. He did it well, he did it well that he visited him rather he should have defused the situation also. But who did not turn up to see Hamid Sahib. Baba ji did not come. Baba ji is controlling the television by sitting behind. Last night the transmission that was on air was being monitored by him from Dubai and he was directing “ bring his picture now, conduct such and such person's interview; edit this one, now tell him to ask this question and now tell him to give this reply”
“You see Baba Ji, how bad are these things i.e telling so much lies. Mr (Janab) Sabir Sahib, his lies are not going to end. Now, he is trying to hoodwink again and taking a new turn. Why don’t you say it straight away that “we have committed a mistake; we have received money from abroad, brother; from foreign countries. You also have proofs of the receipt of that money; please forgive us and award us appropriate punishment and we start anew, after that.”
“If you have been watching Khara Sach and ARY regularly over a period of time during the last 4-5 months…. In it, as we witnessed, we exposed the involvement of Indian and American agenda in Pakistan and in the elections, especially due to Baba Jee – Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman- who is the leading light of the Jang and Geo Group. To personally make money, first of all, he not only put the culture, history and religious values at stake but also put the political future of Pakistan at stake now and it were the Pakistani people who were deceived, not anyone else- neither any political party nor a candidate. But this fraud was committed with the Pakistani people that they were deprived of their due opinion (vote). Jang and Geo … they also have funding from foreign countries. If you look at the funding of Geo, it has come from abroad. It has come from the State Department. Imran Khan: ... Now your funding has come from abroad. From where the funding has come, their stance with the government is that Pakistan should ‘Do More’ and fight. … they are saying fight the war and Do More and they are calling me Taliban Khan because I talk about the dialogue. My objection is that you are setting the agenda of a country; you are setting the narrative of the country and you are getting the funding from abroad. The funding is coming from the place which has vested interest that Pakistan should remain engaged on the western border and continue to fight… … funding should come from abroad and then narrative should also be theirs. Imran Khan: ... If you criticize Jang, Geo which is a due criticism. Tell me in any world that foreign fund- imagine you are sitting in America and your media house is running some media house in America after funding from Russia. Will they allow?”
“Your relations with RAW, the notorious Indian intelligence agency, and their Intelligence Bureau IB and similarity between style and language of Indian media news and Jang and Geo news, their sentences and their statements, and an internal inquiry report of Hindustan Times, and please explain it today Baba Ji, that how much money did you get for false propaganda against the national integrity and solidarity, be it Ajmal Kasab, be it integrity of Pakistan Army. Please tell us how much you got and why; because we will not let traitors live peacefully in this country; we will follow the traitors. ... And above all, you talk about peace with India (Aman ki Asha), you got funding for it; and how did you get overseas ID card. Baba Ji, I have a lot of questions and a lot of proofs, the friend of “RAW” is a traitor. He who gets money from abroad … plays advertisement as editorial in the way of ‘Please Think’ (Zara Sochiye) , he is a criminal, his license should be cancelled, his declaration should be cancelled. ... You wanted your name, Mir Khalil-ur-Rahman, Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman, Mir this, this, this, and Mir that, that, that. But, in history, there are some Mirs in the history, they are remembered, and you are remembered in your life like those. And if you think I am saying something wrong, I will show you a document, US State Department’s leaked document about MKRF, what they say about Mir Khalil-ur-Rahman Foundation, they say … due to shortage of judges, Pakistan is in the grip of crimes, and this campaign is launched on the wishes of America and to fulfil its designs with the American funding, with the American funding. Not only this, but in the proposal it is suggested that Geo will promote this campaign in its flagship programmes and TV programmes will be used to change public opinion. And in this proposal it was acknowledged that in year 2006, Jang Geo Group pressurized the government to repeal Islamic Shariat laws, and New York Times wrote in one of its articles the four programs on Hudood Ordinance Geo provided justification to the government to change these laws. Not only Hudood Ordinance, Geo group, with the collaboration of Indian newspaper Times of India, is running project “Aman ki Asha” from the year 2010, to create soft corner in the hearts of Pakistanis, whereas on the Pakistani borders, soldiers are killed by Indian shelling. Not only this, fake surveys were conducted to prove that “Terror Perception” about India, has fallen to between 75 per cent and 87 per cent. And “Zara Sochiye, Zara Sochiye” (Just Think) is also included in it. Sania Kamran: ... We have been watching that since a long time, a media house Geo, Jang, ‘I should say the name’, Mr Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman, yours … Mubashar Luqman: Baba Ji, Baba Ji. Sania Kamran: Baba Ji, I will be grateful if you push his chair farther, because now his photograph is becoming unbearable, because from his photograph comes out the stench of a traitor. I want to tell you that we have been watching since long that there is openly running a negative campaign against the army, armed forces and ISI on channels, on Geo and Jang. And now they have started character assassination of my leader Imran Khan. They have launched a proper smear campaign since he was named and called a traitor. I want to say that he should be arraigned under Article six when he launches campaign against our ISI, our army and our respectable political leaders and try to impose their opinion on common man. So I believe he is a traitor because he takes undue advantage of his powers, … sets agenda against Pakistan, takes money from “RAW”, ... Mubashar Luqman: Imran Khan is a leader of very high stature and Shakil-ur-Rahman is a dwarf in front of him, there is no two opinions in this regard. Sania Kamran: they should not dare, they should not dare! Mubashar Luqman: no. but traitor is paid for that. And what else they can do except that Pakistani leadership, Pakistan …. Sania Kamran: how much money they want? Mubashar Luqman: first they were minting money along with Iftikhar Chaudhry, now, I don’t know, in whose connivance they are minting money? Sania Kamran: No, how much money they want? They should be afraid of Allah, there is a limit, there is a limit of lust for money, and their lust seems to be unending. Mubashar Luqman: This money is!!!! Sania Kamran: It looks like they are bent upon selling Pakistan!! Mubashar Luqman: … this is an adequate proof that money has been paid, and it is not reflected here, I mean, from Mir Shakil-ur-ahman, from Baba Ji, that he has got the money, he launched campaigns on some one’s instance, like ‘Zara Sochiye’. He also made an unholy attempt to change the slogan of Pakistan that “What is the meaning of Pakistan, noting but Allah” ... This is an insult to Pakistan Muabshir Luqman: ... Let me tell you, when you have taken money, you are giving justification before your masters and that is against the solidarity of Pakistan, Sania. Sania Kamran: I just want to say that Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman should understand that masses are not fool. He will run any agenda on TV and Sadaqah will be paid on it and will be accepted. Mubashar Luqman: they have got money for it, they will run it? Sania Kamran: They should not do it, they have no right. I believe that action should be taken … Mubashar Luqman: ... Baba Ji, you said that prove a single allegation, I am telling you about Indian media assault and the concern for army on different channels, those news that you published and Hindustan Times published, and then credit to Hindustan Times who apologized for publishing wrong story, but you published that again, and instead of seeking apology, you tried to belittle Pakistan. And if I am not wrong, you have sworn to belittle Pakistan.”
“According to Media Commission report, they got foreign funding, … Baba Ji, ... He wrote to State Department of America that we will change our programmes , and we already ran campaigns for money, that included ‘Aman ki Asha’ and Hudood Ordinance, and that we run campaigns for you. After that the proposal of MKRF, Mir Khalil-ur-Rahman’s, then you Baba Ji, you used cheap tactics for character assassination, for example, I tell you that you leveled grave allegations against Pakistan Army, baseless allegations, that you have been doing this for a long time, this is not the first time that you did it. … but when Mr Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman say that that allegations are leveled against him, he is telling lies. There are not only allegations, but here we presented their proofs, and above all, I have all the proofs, I have emails, I have record of the phone calls. … it can be said that the government, along with Baba Ji, is trying to dishonour Pakistan army and security institutions of Pakistan. … I challenge false and baseless things, from this forum of ARY, a poll which was conducted by your institution, Baba Ji, and given to your Hindu masters or friends to appease them, that without resolving Kashmir and water dispute with India, are friendly ties with India possible today eighteen core people reply to you that here, in this country, no foreign agenda will be implemented, in Pakistan only Pakistan’s agenda will be enforced. … When you show results of false polls, you are not only giving a news, but also putting in danger solidarity of Pakistan. My war with Baba Ji is this that for his lust of money, for his greed, he has put at stake culture of my country, traditions of my country, economy of my country, peasants of my country, businessmen of my country, politicians of my country intelligentsia of my country and everything of Pakistan. And in the international community tagged every negative thing to Pakistan and caused its disrepute, be it Ajmal Kasab, be it Mumbai episode, be it brutality of Indian forces in Kashmir. I have received a message from Saif Ullah Butt from Lahore, and the words he has used about Baba Ji, I cannot repeat them on TV, but almost same words were said in 1971 about Baba Ji’s Baba (father) Mir Khalil-ur-Rahman by a journalist. I show them on your screen and they were published in a write-up in Karachi’s weekly Al-Fatah on January 14, 1971, and its title was Bazar-e-Sahafat ki Tawaif (Prostitute of Journalism Bazar). … I gave you the title of prostitute of journalism … Farrukh Habib: ... I think Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman is Mir Jafar and Mir Sadiq. ... But, you, Mir Shakil, you are a traitor, you have committed treachery with nation. You tried to defame ISI, first in the name of Bol TV, and then in the name of Hamid Mir you defamed ISI, you have to answer for this. … Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman, Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman, you and your institution Geo has caused immense damage to the country, damaged our ideology, and you talk of ‘Aman ki Asha’, on the one hand you talk of war on the western borders, and on the other you talk of ‘Aman ki Asha’. We want good relations with India, but on equal terms. We cannot bargain our honour, our courage), our self-respect. Nawaz Sharif, be happy in the shameless life, but Tehrik-e-Insaaf and the people of Pakistan want to live with honour with our army and ISI. Sabir Shakir: … they have admitted that we have got money from Hindus, from Jews, from Christians, from non-Muslims (KAFIR) also. Mubashar Luqman: they will get from everyone. Farrukh Habib: I believe Mr Mubashar, this has been the practice of Mir Shaikl-ur-Rahman and his ally Mian Nawaz Sharif, and he always believed that government can be formed and brought down by using, power, intimidation, corruption, plunder, theft. This book of yours, which has so much evidence that Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman, if you think that you are a Pakistani, come and face courts, talk about it and answer to it, but you have no answers, because four, five months have passed since this book was made public and it contained evidence that you got money from India, America, Britain. Mubashar Luqman: from Norway also. Farrukh Habib: … I want to tell journalists also that they should raise voice black sheep among them, hold them accountable who have been watching their own interests in the name of journalism. In this country politician can be held accountable, and here eight hours long discussions can be held on generals and ISI, then why not discussion on Mir Shakil? Is Mir Shakil a sacred cow? If Imran Khan has boycotted Geo and Jang, why do you have trouble. I urge the youth of Pakistan, people of Pakistan to continue boycott of Geo and Jang till clean people in media start promoting our ideology, Pakistan’s ideology. It is true that it is media’s job to show mirror, but this is not media’s job to undermine Pakistan’s ideological base.”
“I have all the proofs, I have emails, I have record of the phone calls.”
“My war with Baba Ji is this that for his lust of money, for his greed, he has put at stake culture…, traditions…, economy…, peasants…, businessmen…, politicians…, intelligentsia of my country and everything of Pakistan.”
“Do you think that Geo and Jang , under the guidance of Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman, especially in Pakistan, have put the Pakistaniat and Islam at stake and to earn money, he is fanning sectarianism here or that he promoted it or has done more things like that. Abbas Kumaili: yes, I think so and I’m not thinking so from today; realizing since long that he has always fanned sectarianism and published such material by way of which sectarianism should spread. Hamid Raza Khan: … Islamic teachings are being openly ridiculed and I’m sorry for Pemra which does not realize that when our new generation, the raw minds-children- will see these types of programmes then what kind of Muslims they will become in future, then we intentionally….Thanks be to God!, look, I am a moderate type of a Muslim. I opine that every person has the right to lead his life according to his sect, but if you come up with this kind of Islamic facade and if you promote it in a special way Mubashar Luqman: … Abbas Kumaili Sahib, the thing is that you are also a senator and since you are a member of legislature, I want to ask you that shouldn’t there be a criminal case registered under Section 289 A of Pakistan Penal Code against Geo’s morning show organizers and host, including owners Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman and Mir Mir Ibrahim-ur-Rahman. Mubashar Luqman: what is the fault of the programme; they are sitting above it who are further pulling the strings of puppets. Hamid Raza Khan: look Mubashar Sahib excuse is worse than sin; after all they are also involved in this to some extent; if someone says that the conviction of your faith so Mubashar Sahib, it did wake up so you also called me, also called Allama Abbas Kumaili Sahib; you expressed the conviction of your faith, you showed love and devotion for Maula Ali and BiBi Fatimatuz Zahra, so where this disrespect was going on, where that un-Islamic act was being committed, there that man or woman could refuse that “Sir, this is like ridiculing Islamic teachings , we cannot do the show on such a sensitive issue.”
“To destroy Pakistan, we will not need to wage a war, we will destroy this country with cultural invasion…”
“Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman is playing a key role, Baba Ji who never comes to us, even after calling him several times, and sitting behind the scene he raises hollow slogans and continue to challenge us, but this ‘fact’ has been proved that he has been getting foreign aid and he has been getting money from abroad and that he used that in Pakistan to present from different angles to appease their masters who give him money and they have their agendas, especially to create unrest in Pakistan, internally and externally, to make state institutions confront each other so that it should not be ‘stable’ … … we have complaints against the people at the helm who, may God never happen, not only tried to ridicule teachings of Islam, our religious beliefs in their plays, in their talks, in their features, but also challenged solidarity of Pakistan, and state institutions of Pakistan, defense institutions, they adopted disgraceful attitude towards them and remained adamant, now the question arises that for the last a few days, a big ‘campaign’ was going on, Pakistan’s various religious organizations, especially leaders from various schools of thought and various sect we have ‘ascertained’ about Geo and Jang that they were getting funds from abroad, there are certain agendas the question is this, on what agenda basically is Baba Ji working on, Pakistan army, Islamic traditions, meaning Islamic teachings, family of the prophet, his companions, his wives and those Islamic commandments that are binding and no deviation from them, ridiculing them in your plays and showing them, what is this, what is his agenda? Mir Shakil is ‘certified’ a man who has hurt the feelings of crores of Muslims, tried to ridicule the teachings of Islam, he should be punished, why is he going to be given a hearing so quickly and giving him punishment, what is this going on, ‘do you agree with’? I have been saying this for many months that Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman Baba Ji has got money against this country and admitted it, he ran campaigns against the ideology of this country even ‘Zara Sochiye’ campaign, he changed LA ILLAH ILALLAH and no Muslim has the right to change the slogan “Pakistan Ka Matlab Kia, La Ilaha Ilallah”, this was the meaning of Pakistan and this should remain its meaning … everybody is infuriated, or angry, or sad and there is no doubt about that, every Muslim will be sad”
“…he himself utilized money by taking it from India in their name. Today, I am challenging Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman in front of whole Pakistan to appear in the court. … I shall prove that he betrayed the country and I shall come to the court with proofs, with evidence. Arif Hameed Bhatti: Well, Sabir I shall want to interrupt you here. Sabir, on this occasion I shall want to say one thing. You did court reporting for a long period. I also know some judges. You made a reference to the Jamaat-e-Islami. Many religious, pious people are there. They understand the difference between the justice and feud; they also understand the difference between the justice and vengeance. We leave it. You tell that the defence minister says two, three/four days earlier that Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman/Geo resorted to anti-state acts. Is there any penalty in the law for anti-state acts? What law is such, had any flaw remained in the constitution of 1973. Sabir Shakir: Bhatti Sahib I am turning towards the same. Bhatti Sahib I am turning towards the same that in the same petition, Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman, whom the Ministry of Defence is declaring enemy of the country Sabir Shakir: ... They summon people to Dubai from here; pay huge expenses; sit abroad and work on agenda of foreign countries. Lawyer Aftab: It is abetment, treason. Arif Bhatti: Traitor. Do you mean Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman has committed treason? Lawyer Aftab: He is an accused; it is treason. I am saying on air that the person who will push the interests of this country to a war. Arif Hameed Bhatti: Well, the defence minister is also saying this. You are also calling traitor so the rest of their… Lawyer Aftab: Bhatti Sahib listen to me. Shall malign the army of this country. Listen my request Bhatti Sahib, who is a traitor, the one who destroys the country; who is traitor, the one who maligns the armed forces of Pakistan, which is an institution for security of the country; who is a traitor, the one who puts the interests of the country at stake; the same is traitor, the one like Mir Jafar and Mir Sadiq. Arif Hameed Bhatti: Well, the time of our programme has ended. We are unable to understand anything. You are saying that he committed treason. Lawyer Aftab: Sir let me prove as to who I am calling a traitor. Arif Bhatti: ... Are there such courts in Pakistan that will take action against enemies of Pakistan; is there any legal institution that will take action? Will the same happen that every knowledgeable person, every powerful person commits treason against Pakistan and provides material to enemy country against Pakistan and no action is taken against him?”
“Do you mean Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman has committed treason?”
“He is an accused; it is treason. I am saying on air that the person who will push the interests of this country to a war.”
“ Listen my request Bhatti Sahib, who is a traitor, the one who destroys the country; who is traitor, the one who maligns the armed forces of Pakistan, which is an institution for security of the country; who is a traitor, the one who puts the interests of the country at stake; the same is traitor, the one like Mir Jafar and Mir Sadiq.”
“The sixth family has come; in how many courts it is wanted in how many cases and so much so that police have no realization that this person is wanted for blasphemy of the kin of the Prophet; this person is wanted for desecration of the Holy Quran i.e. this person is wanted in desecration of Islamic penalties and you are not laying hand on this person. You too have to respond to Allah. Policemen, Allah will also question you. Baba Ji, you are in Pakistan. I had offered you a ticket and hotel stay. You are in Pakistan so please come, sit on the chair and please we sort out things. Give up the rounds of courts and we should find together as to what is milk; what is water and what is acid and I tell you how you received funds from the international courts to work against Pakistan and you prove me wrong. I shall prove that I am right but when we come back after a break, the other stories. Take a break. We have not placed this here for dates; it is placed as a reminder so that we remember as to what is behind the Aman Ki Asha; what is behind DFID; what is behind the funds of the CIA and State Department. All this has been placed to remember because when new Pakistan is going to come into being, there should be no room for enemies of Pakistan in it whichever profession they are associated with, even if they are journalists or anyone of the ancestors of journalists.”
“The sixth family come in; in how many courts it is wanted in how many cases and so much so that police have no realization that this person is wanted for blasphemy of the kin of the Prophet; this person is wanted for desecration of the Holy Quran i.e. this person is wanted in desecration of Islamic penalties and you are not laying hand on this person. You too have to respond to Allah. Policemen, Allah will also question you.”
“I have again symbolically placed here a picture of Baba Ji and have placed a chair. Its reason is that you watch and Baba Ji also watches. Don’t think that I am deviating from my story. I am coming to my story but first I have to say another thing. It is very necessary. This is the system of our country that this person, Baba Ji or Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman son of Mir Khalil-ur-Rahman is an accused; many courts have made him a culprit of this country. He is roaming around Pakistan. …[H]e is not being arrested. … He is a culprit of this country…”
“News Anchor: Khara Sach host Mubashar Luqman has submitted an application to the Lahore High Court against Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman for threatening to kill him. Report: The host of Khara Sach programme of ARY, Mubashar Luqman, has submitted an application to the Lahore High Court against Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman wherein the IG Police Punjab, DIG Operations Lahore, SP Lahore Cantt, SHO DHA Lahore Police Station and Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman have been made respondents. In his application, the host of Khara Sach has stated that he is receiving phone from unknown mobile numbers for pinpointing alleged irregularities of the Geo Group and Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman. The callers are threating to kill Mubashar Luqman and his family. According to the host of Khara Sach, he approached DHA Lahore Police Station for the registration of a criminal case against Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman but the police did not take any action. Mubashar Luqman has prayed to the court that police be ordered to register an FIR against Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman for harassing Mubashar Luqman and his family. Mubashar Luqman: The truth is that first Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman and his company attempted to restrict our freedom of journalism when they requested a gagging order against me and they got it from the Islamabad High Court. Well, the court order is welcome so we shall obey whatever they will say but the world should come to know that there is a dual law and double standard here. Now Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman is threatening to kill me and is acting like a mafia don but no action against him is being taken here; is he not a citizen of this land. Report: The host of Khara Sach had submitted a written application to the SHO of DHA Lahore Police Station stating that he is receiving serious threats on mobile phone to kill him which are prima facie and certainly being received from Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman. Lawyer: The opposition (rivals) are directly threatening to Mubashar Luqman and his family through phone calls. All sorts of harassment are being used. We submitted an application to the Defence A Police Station on Thursday wherein we requested the police for the registration of an FIR and sought legal protection. No action has so far been taken by police on this application despite passage of fourdays because of we have been compelled to file a writ today and in this writ, besides seeking an order for the registration of an FIR against Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman, we have also requested for the provision of legal protection to my client and his family against the harassment by them, which does not fall in the jurisdiction of the justice of peace and can be provided to us only by the High Court under Article 199. And in this writ, we have requested the same. As an ultimate result of this writ, an order shall be issued for the registration of an FIR against Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman. Secondly, my client and his family will get proper legal protection on the order of the justice of the Honorable Lahore High Court that they be provided security, protection because the opposition (rivals) are a potential, is using all tactics to threaten, harass my client and to press him for refrain from putting the truth before the country and the nation.”
“Mir Shakil-ur-Rahman is threatening to kill me and acting like a mafia don but no action is being taken here; is he not a citizen of this land”