“Martin then went on to discuss the Management & Administration team and believed the cost of running this team to be excessive, he had already gone about improving efficiency as he planned to implement the accounting package Sage but we also agreed that the need for the amount of employees [sic] within this function had reduced due to the changing nature of customers and workload. We agreed that the team should be reduced by six persons and that we should look to include everyone in the process and then redistribute the tasks among the remaining members, offering training where appropriate.”
“The work of a particular kind that had been identified as no longer required was that of accounts and administrative functions. Two from three of the Accounts team were dismissed on the grounds of redundancy. Part of the reason for the reduced requirement of that particular kind of work was that I was installing a Sage Accountancy package in March 2011 that would in effect produce more cost effective, quicker and accurate key management and financial information.”
“I can categorically state that in the event the tribunal do not believe I followed a fair procedure during the course of handling these redundancies, I do not expect that if the correct procedure had been followed that [sic] the outcome would be different. The simple fact of the matter is that the roles and duties performed by Ms Cave and Ms McNaughton are now carried out by an IT software package, Sage Accounts, and the parts that aren’t I or Keith now manage.”
“51. The tribunal having carefully considered s.139 and the factual issues in this case finds that the respondent had a need to make various cuts and that it was top heavy in terms of the number of staff in the business. It accepts the respondent’s contention that the office based staff overall were significantly overmanned. However the process carried out by the respondent was to put into a pool employees from different disciplines within the organisation which we have already identified but ranged from warehousing, quality control, sales and administration embracing the accounts functions of the two claimants. The respondent’s objective was to cut the numbers irrespective of their respective skills and areas of operation. What the respondent did not do was to identify the employees who carried out work of a particular kind nor that that particular kind of work had ceased or diminished or was expected to cease or diminish. This could be termed a scatter gun approach and for this reason the tribunal finds that the facts of this case do not give rise to a finding that either of the claimants who were dismissed should be taken to be dismissed by reason of redundancy. The focus was on reducing the wage bill not identifying specifically the requirements of the business and in which areas, if at all, the work of a particular kind had ceased or diminished. 52. This finding is unequivocally borne out by the evidence of Mr Thornton when he made it clear that it did not matter who went so long as the wage bill was reduced and he gave the example of the quality manager. It is worth repeating what we have already said in these reasons about the quality manager who was necessary for the business. In short had the quality manager (whose work apparently had not diminished) been selected under the matrix used then that responsibility would have had to have been allocated to an alternative employee within the business or indeed someone recruited from outside.”
“We have considered whether or not there are any factors in this case which would give rise to consideration as to whether or not had there been a fair procedure that the dismissals would have taken placed [sic] in any event or any factors which would support a reduction in the compensation which will be due to the claimants. The tribunal finds that there is no evidence to suggest that had there been a fair and proper process that [sic] there was a percentage chance that either of these claimants would still have been dismissed.”
“For the purposes of this Act an employee who is dismissed should be taken to be dismissed by reason of redundancy if the dismissal is wholly or mainly attributable to— (a) the fact that his employer has ceased or intends to cease— (i) to carry on the business for the purposes of which the employee was employed by him, or (ii) to carry on that business in the place where the employee was employed, or (b) the fact that the requirements of that business— (i) for employees to carry out work of a particular kind, or (ii) for employees to carry out work of a particular kind in the place where the employee was employed by the employer, Have ceased or diminished or are expected to cease or diminish.”
“The determination of the question whether the dismissal is fair or unfair, having regard to the reasons shown by the employer— (a) depends on whether in the circumstances, including the size and administrative resources of the employer’s undertaking, the employer acted reasonably or unreasonably in treating it as a sufficient reason for dismissing the employee, and (b) shall be determined in accordance with equity and the substantial merits of the case.”
“The first is whether one or other of the various states of economic affairs exists. In this case, the relevant one is whether the requirements of the business for employees to carry out work of a particular kind have diminished. The second is whether the dismissal is attributable, wholly or mainly, to that state of affairs. This is a question of causation.”
“(1) In assessing compensation the task of the tribunal is to assess the loss flowing from the dismissal, using its common sense, experience and sense of justice. In the normal case that requires it to assess for how long the employee would have been employed but for the dismissal. (2) If the employer seeks to contend that the employee would or might have ceased to be employed in any event had fair procedures been followed, or alternatively would not have continued in employment indefinitely, it is for him to adduce any relevant evidence on which he wishes to rely. However, the tribunal must have regard to all the evidence when making that assessment, including any evidence from the employee himself. (He might, for example, have given evidence that he had intended to retire in the near future.) (3) However, there will be circumstances where the nature of the evidence which the employer wishes to adduce, or on which he seeks to rely, is so unreliable that the tribunal may take the view that the whole exercise of seeking to reconstruct what might have been is so riddled with uncertainty that no sensible prediction based on that evidence can properly be made. (4) Whether that is the position is a matter of impression and judgment for the tribunal. But in reaching that decision the tribunal must direct itself properly. It must recognise that it should have regard to any material and reliable evidence which might assist it in fixing just compensation, even if there are limits to the extent to which it can confidently predict what might have been; and it must appreciate that a degree of uncertainty is an inevitable feature of the exercise. The mere fact that an element of speculation is involved is not a reason for refusing to have regard to the evidence.”
“We do not understand on what basis that evidence can be said to be ‘insufficient’, in the sense of not requiring the Tribunal to consider it at all. It might be unconvincing, or flawed; but if so it was the duty of the Tribunal, as part of its obligation to give reasons, to engage with the evidence and explain why it did not accept it, rather than dismissing it in limine .”