“I THANK GOD EVERY DAY FOR OUR 6 WONDERFULL CHILDREN I KNOW WE WILL NEVER BE LEFT SHORT.”
“You’re the most selfless people I have ever known I promise there will be no fighting.”
“We’re here because our son [Denis] borrowed all this money and never paid it back … it was the biggest shock we ever got – you trust your family, every one of them that they would repay what we loaned them.”
“A contract of loan of money is a contract whereby one person lends or agrees to lend a sum of money to another, in consideration of a promise express or implied to repay that sum on demand, or at a fixed or determinable future time, or conditionally upon an event which is bound to happen, with or without interest.”
"(4) ... a judgment is not a summing-up in which every possible relevant piece of evidence must be mentioned."
“not to forget we don't just have 3 sons we have 3 daughters too to get them sorted from our wills and it is our intention to treat everyone evenly.”
“are not contracts because the parties did not intend that they should be attended by legal consequences.”
“The question is what a reasonable person, furnished with the relevant information, would conclude. The private thoughts of the protagonists concerning who was contracting with whom are irrelevant and inadmissible.”
“There is, at least arguably, a limitation on the objective nature of the test where one party’s subjective intention is actually known to the other: see Novus Aviation Ltd v Alubaf Arab International Bank BSC(c)[2016] EWHC 1575 (Comm) ;[2017] 1 BCLC 414 , para 56.”
“15. Every one of our children have had help from Tom and I with their first purchase of their properties. … All the assistance we have given our children was for them to get on the property ladder or to assist with their property portfolio as and when they needed or were in a position to purchase. 16. All our children lived at home with us until they got married and we never demanded a penny from them for anything while they lived at home. Many parents would charge for their upkeep or a contribution especially when they were working. 17. We have helped every one of our children if they needed it. I would help any of my children if they came to us for help.”
“12. We are a close family and not one day has gone by where we don’t talk to each other. It has always been this way. However, I do not speak to Denis and his family anymore.”
“Thomas Barry suffered from a heart-attack in 1998 and was fitted with a pacemaker. Thomas Barry has been advised by his doctor that giving oral evidence at a trial could induce angina or an episode of atrial fibrillation. His doctor has advised against giving oral evidence in. the trial unless it was absolutely necessary to do so.”
“Even though his cardiac tests are satisfactory he has underlying ischaemic heart disease and paroxysmal atrial fibrillation. In my experience giving evidence in court is an extremely powerful emotional stimulus. It cannot be considered as similar to the stimulus of an elective stress test. In my opinion such stress could be powerful enough to induce angina or an episode of atrial fibrillation. In view of this I would advise against giving oral evidence in the trial unless it was absolutely necessary to do so.”
“They sent me the email because they were looking for repayment. I don’t know why they were looking for repayment of an outstanding loan. I never was expecting to receive it as the loan was no longer a loan and was restructured as a gift … It came out of the blue and I was shocked because it had been restructured as a gift.”
“Claimant 2 explained that my other siblings had already been given help, including cash gifts and property gifts and that the Claimants wanted to do something for all of their grandchildren. She explained that each of my siblings would get something from them for the grandchildren and it would all even itself out eventually. At no time did me or my wife approach the Claimants and ask them for a loan to purchase either 37A Reeves Avenue, the Reeves Freehold and/or Salmon Street – the Claimants did however offer to help with those purchases.”
“Mum and Dad were funding the purchases for Reeves Ave. I was shocked to hear and remember thinking this is an easy borrow, sort the mess out, re mortgage and repay Mum so why was it taking so long? In the meantime, Denis was living a very high life he bought a boat, a Land Rover and went on expensive holidays. In hindsight it was crazy. When I found out mum had also lent money for the freehold I was absolutely flabbergasted. When Denis was planning his extension in 2019, I remember thinking Mum had put around£300,000 into Reeves Ave and he was now planning an extension on his house.”
“The Salmon Street loan was a temporary loan until Denis using Mike Gaffney would sort out his mortgage and if he couldn’t Denis would sell his residence as that would be the tax free one to sell. Denis told me this. As for Reeves Avenue, I understood that my parents were buying the freehold so he could get a decent mortgage on the property. I was quite amazed when I found out that he was buying the other leasehold. He could remortgage the property and pay the money back. It was quite a simple thing and it was like what I did with Everton Drive. If you increase the lease then everyone is interested. Over the time Denis would tell my mum that the repayment ‘is taking the time and I will sort it out.’ I would have been told that by my mother. She 100% wanted the money back because she needed it and she wanted to look after Deirdre’s children and she talked about her mortgage. She was around 70 and she had a high mortgage and it was a worry to her. In respect of any of the loans to the children, none of them have been written off as far as I know.”
“Thomas, Denis and I had refinanced Honeypot Lane and Crawford House. The excess money was around£750,000 . We thought we’d use to buy parents out of property. We did not know that you can’t raise money on asset to buy out a partner. So the money sat in an account for maybe up to two years. Then suddenly I was asked by Denis and possibly Mum also, I’m not sure, to transfer the money for Denis to buy 295 Salmon Street. Denis said he did not have access as the money raised was in a Lloyds bank account and so I was asked to transfer it. I can’t remember speaking to Thomas. It was a last-minute thing that had to be done equally. I was the only person who had authorisation. Denis told me it was a temporary thing to get Salmon Street. Denis said was a ‘temporary thing’ as Mike Gaffney was sorting it out and we’d get the money back or he would sell his house.”
“In the period between December 2016 and May 2017, Claimant 2, me and my wife had a number of conversations regarding the Salmon Street Loan and the Reeves Avenue Loan. Claimant 2 explained that I did not need to worry about paying it back, as the Claimants were in the process of sorting out their affairs and were taking advice on the best way to gift over their estate to their children to ensure that there was something left to each of the grandchildren.”
“I know a fair bit goes to tax and dad [Mr O’Donoghue Snr.] but that should cover new car or money back to Kathleen.”
“The loan of hundreds of thousands of pounds was a serious matter, with serious consequences.”
“Both aspects of Reeves Avenue were equally serious loans.”
“I agree the loan agreements were serious agreements.”
“As you are aware, the property was purchased on the4th January 2002 in the joint names of Deidre [sic] and myself for the sum of£136,000 . The funds for the purchase were provided as to£10,519.97 by Father Robert Barry with the balance coming from Tom and Catherine Barry. No Trust Deed was executed by the parties in 2002 and, on the face of it, the property is held by me (as the surviving Trustee) for the benefit of the parties in the proportions in which they contributed towards the purchase price.”
“a declaration of trust respecting any land or any interest therein must be manifested and proved by some writing signed by some person who is able to declare such trust or by his will.”
“What is accepted by counsel on both sides is that where, as here, the court is concerned with an oral agreement, the test remains objective but evidence of the subjective understanding of the parties is admissible in so far as it tends to show whether, objectively, an agreement was reached and, if so, what its terms were and whether it was intended to be legally binding. Evidence of subsequent conduct is admissible on the same basis. In the case of an oral agreement, unless a recording was made, the court cannot know the exact words spoken nor the tone in which they were spoken, nor the facial expressions and body language of those involved. In these circumstances, the parties’ subjective understanding may be a good guide to how, in their context, the words used would reasonably have been understood. It is for that reason that the House of Lords in Carmichael v National Power Plc[1999] 1 WLR 2042 held that evidence of the subjective understanding of the parties is admissible in deciding what obligations were established by an oral agreement.”
“You both offered to loan us the money to purchase the freehold of Reeves Avenue and said that we could repay it once we had the funds.”
“The intention of the parties can only be deduced from the totality of the evidence, and no secondary principles of such a kind can be universally true.”
“THEN TO RESTRUCTURE BOTH MORTGAGES AND PAY BACK THE TEMPORARY LOAN HOPE THIS IS EXPLAINED PROPERLY”
“Once all completed I will be arranging to get both 37 and 37A re-mortgage and equity released in order that Dens can repay loan to you.”
“I knew that Denis had asked our parents to borrow the money for Salmon Street. I transferred the money over as he said he did not have a card set up with Lloyds Bank. I asked him why I don’t just transfer directly to you but he said no and that it must go to mum first then to him. He did say that as soon as he could re-mortgage he would have the money right back.”
“[25/08/2017 , 18:48:54] KIERAN: I wondered what you would both think about me borrowing a£100,000 out of that Lloyds account for about 6 weeks? … [25/08/2017 , 18:49:56] KIERAN: Please let mw know honestly what you think so if its a no i can approach other people or sort out a bridging loan or something.”
“[28/08/2017 , 14:37:23] KIERAN: Fair enough, i do not remember you ever asking to borrow money before, all i am asking is exactly what Denis has done in Reeves Ave, i feel its harsh i would lend my last penny if needed and if Denis says no as well it will cost me a lot of money on a bridging loan but at least i know where i stand …”
“[28/08/2017 , 21:39:13] Denis: Sorry didn't t get a chance to reply was out. For someone who is asking his brothers for a considerable amount of money U have gone about it the wrong way bringing what I have arranged separately with mums money and has nothing to do with u into it. My answer is the same as Thomas.”
“[Denis] said it would only be a temporary loan and he would hopefully get it paid back within six months he said he would be able to re-mortgage or sell 74 Vista Way and possibly re-adjust Salmon Street, which Mike Gaffney was already dealing with. I agreed to lend him the money on this basis.”
“ASK CHARLIE WE ARE GOING TO PURCHASE THE FREEH0LD OF THE PROPERTY UNDER THE LIMITED COMPANY AND IN ORDER TO DO THIS WE ARE GETTING A TEMPORARY LOAN FROM MY PARENTS UNTIL I REGULARISE THE FREEHOLD AND NEW MORTGAGE”
“IT LOOKS LIKE THE COST OF THE FREEHOLD IS GOING TO BE APPROX£140,000 . IS IT EASY TO GET THAT MONEY BACK FROM THE COMPANY”
“No, this is for any property given under a limited company - in general how difficult would it be to get the money back later?”
“Good all ready to go I was thinking since may be not necessary to do a limited company just say trading as c r r estates it may be cheaper tax wise after”
“hI fIONA do you think you could transfer to sort code XX XX XX a/c no XXXXXXXX the amount of the sum of£145,104.00 for the freehold (THIS IS HIS [that is Denis’] OWN ACCOOUNT) of 37A AND 37B REEVES AVENUE NW9 8LN the reason is he says thats the way, he then has to transfer it to a limited company account to then transfer to Herbert Reeves I must check that again tomorrow as he only thinks that has to be done that way.”
“The Bardon Loan was recorded in Bardon Limited’s financial accounts as a liability for the relevant financial year, which are in the public domain and have been since the Bardon Loan was entered into. The Claimants have neither raised issue with the nature in which the Bardon Loan was entered into nor disputed its existence until I responded to the Claimants’ email of04 March 2021 …”
“But under no circumstances did I loan the money to Bardon. I transferred the money into his bank account to do what he wanted with it.”
“38. During the period between December 2016 and May 2017, the Second Claimant, the Defendant and his wife had a number of conversations regarding the Bardon Loan and the monies loaned to the Defendant in his personal capacity. The Second Claimant explained that the Defendant did not need to worry about paying them back for anything other than the Bardon Loan, as the Claimants were in the process of rearranging their affairs and were taking advice on the best way to gift over their estate to their children. The Second Claimant explained that each of the siblings would be given something, that would be discussed and confirmed at a later date, but the Defendant was warned not to tell his siblings what he had been given as the Claimants were concerned that it would create arguments among the siblings.”
“But going forward from here now, how … how much did we give you in total? That’s what I want.”
“No, it was recorded because Mum came into a fluster because Denis still had not paid the money for the property back and he was clearing out his property to do an extension and [my Mum] was worried he was extending and he had not paid back.”
“In regards to the two loans, you know that there was only one loan and this has been documented as such by Sanjeev. You both offered to loan us the money to purchase the freehold of Reeves Avenue and said that we could repay it once we had the funds. In February 2020, we discussed repayment of the loan and mum said that we had to start paying something back and asked how much we could afford. We said that we could afford to pay back£500 per month, which you were happy with.”
“In regards to the balance of the money (or as Fiona has referred to it as "Loan 1"), that was money that was given to us as inheritance and has been treated as such for tax purposes. If it was a loan, then it would have been recorded as one and documented, which it was not (by any of us or Sanjeev). You will recall that there was a meeting where Fiona showed us a video message from mum saying that we would all be given inheritance, e.g., Kieran was given Park Place, Thomas was given Vista Way, the girls were given Brockley Avenue and I would get help with, as mum said, “Reeves Ave”
“No, no, no, listen to me now. Thomas never got Vista Way, Denis …”
“40 Vista Way I have made a suggestion to Mum that would it be possible to add Kieran and Denis name onto Vista Way to make things a bit more clean cut. So that the 3 boys together could raise money on it to pay Mum and Dad back.”
“you never raised any money at all on the Reeves Avenue upstairs for … to pay back the money, you know? That was the whole point of Reeves Avenue.”
“our relationship began to change in 2020 when the [defendant] began to fall out after the disagreement with the brother in law in 2020.”
“I found a selfie in my phone in my phone the other day of the three brothers and everything was all right. It made my mum cry.”
“I do not know Denis anymore and haven’t seen him or his wife and children over the last three years unless from a distance. I am shattered from the lies he has told … He is someone we don’t know any more and a very changed man.”
“it is distressing that [mother and daughter] could not settle their differences amicably and avoid the bitterness and expense which is involved in this dispute carried as far as this court.”