“A. Yes, I need to correct him, because it was in – when I made the statement like nine months ago that was the assets. Today, if I would make a similar statement, it would be between 600 and 800 million. MR JUSTICE MOSTYN: Really. Your total net worth. A. Yes, and I can give the – MR JUSTICE MOSTYN: Between 600 and 800 million. MR CUSWORTH: As of now, you have lost in the last nine months about$1 billion worth of assets? A. Yes. MR JUSTICE MOSTYN: Okay. A. Yes, I can explain if it's necessary. MR JUSTICE MOSTYN: No, I am just processing that, okay. MR CUSWORTH: You have never asserted or relied on that fact before today, have you? There has been no updated evidence from you about the state of your assets. A. It is not important.”
“It is common ground that during the marriage the parties enjoyed an extremely high standard of living. They had the use of properties around the world (including a property located in the heart of the Cap d’Antibes, to which I will return later in this judgment). The parties employed a significant number of staff at the West London property, as I have described above, and in their other properties. It is agreed that the parties would spend a great deal of time travelling, typically by private plane or first-class commercial flights, and staying in high-end hotels or villas at significant cost.”
“Within three years from the date of the marriage, Michael shall establish, from his Separate Property assets, a joint investment fund (the “Joint Investment Fund”), in the name of both parties or in the name of an entity owned by both parties, with a minimum balance of Ten Million ($10,000,000 ) Dollars. Each party shall have a 50% interest in the Joint Investment Fund (with Alvina’s share vesting from the date of the marriage)…”
“If an Event of Marital Dissolution occurs after the establishment and full funding of the Joint Investment Fund and before the ten year anniversary of Michael’s management of the Fund, but in no event beyond the thirteenth anniversary of the parties’ marriage, Michael shall be entitled to the contents of the Joint Investment Fund, provided that he shall pay to Alvina a cash amount equal to the greater of (i) half the value of the Joint Investment Fund, or (ii) the cash sum of Five Million Dollars ($5,000,000 ) plus an amount equal to the product of (x) the number of full months the parties were married prior to the Event of Marital Dissolution up to a maximum of 120 months, and (y)$41,667 . Such cash amount shall be paid to Alvina as a tax-flee distributive award payable as follows: (1)$1 million within ten days from the Event of Marital Dissolution; (2) an amount equal to the remaining sum due, less$1,500,000 , within ninety days from an Event of Marital Dissolution; and (3) a payment of$500,000 each year on the first, second, and third anniversary of an Event of Marital Dissolution.”
“Floor provision in PNA [is] only applicable as a floor. If needs require a greater sum in replacement, that is legitimate.”
“Southampton Residence. Michael is the sole owner of a house located at Meadow Lane, Southampton, New York (“the Southampton Residence”). In the event that the Southampton Residence is sold prior to an Event of Marital Dissolution, Michael agrees to pay to Alvina an amount equal to one-half of the excess of the net sales price (defined as the gross sales price less broker’s fees, transfer taxes, and customary closing costs, but not deducting any mortgage) of the Southampton Residence over$20 million , but in no event less than a minimum of$1 million . For example, if the Southampton Residence sold for a net sales price of$25 million during the marriage and prior to an Event of Marital Dissolution, Michael would pay to Alvina the sum of$2.5 million . In the event that Michael still owns the Southampton Residence at the time of an Event of Marital Dissolution, he shall pay to Alvina the sum of$1million within ninety days of such Event.”
“Should the wife’s half share that was promised to her in 2014 in the Modification Agreement be depredated by a further mortgage to pay off her predecessor’s own mortgage? ”
“It would be unfair, and therefore outside the contemplation of the parties, that such a further debt should be taken into account against the wife’s promised share.”
“Future Residences. In the event that either 26 Downing Street, the Paris Apartment, or the Miami Apartment are sold during the marriage and prior to an Event of Marital Dissolution, any residence (a) purchased as a residence in which the parties reside as a family either as a primary or vacation residence, or (b) purchased as an investment property but subsequently resided in by the parties as a family either as a primary or vacation residence, shall be titled in the joint names of the parties (or otherwise deemed jointly owned by the parties) with each party having a 50% interest in such property. Any other residences which the parties choose to put in joint names (or hold title through an entity in which both parties are members or partners) shall be considered to be equally owned by the parties, with such property to be sold upon an Event of Marital Dissolution and the net proceeds of sale equally divided.”
“No finding is required as to whether or not W signed the re-mortgage documentation. It is clear from the evidence that no finding that she signed the documents is in any way possible.”
“The parties acknowledge that Michael has signed a contract to purchase a townhouse located at 26 Downing Street, New York for a purchase price of$14.25 million , which the parties intend to utilize as their primary residence and which shall be considered a joint asset of the parties vesting at the date of closing. Michael shall be permitted to finance the purchase price by taking a mortgage on the property of up to$10 million . The contents of 26 Downing Street (or any replacement residence) shall also be considered the joint property of the parties, except for artwork which disposition shall by governed by paragraph 6.9 of this Agreement.”
“Within thirty days from the occurrence of an Event of Marital Dissolution, if there are children of the marriage under the age of twenty-one, Alvina shall have exclusive occupancy and shall be permitted to remain in the 26 Downing Street (or if this property has been sold, in the parties’ then primary residence) until the youngest child of the marriage attains the age of twenty-one. Michael shall be responsible for making the monthly mortgage payments, payment of any real estate taxes, major repairs (subject to his being given the opportunity to arrange for such repairs), and maintaining at his expense the household staff (subject to a cap of$60,000 per year, not including a nanny, if applicable) for the 26 Downing Street (or equivalent payments for any replacement primary residence) during Alvina’s period of exclusive occupancy of the residence and Alvina shall pay all other expenses attendant to the primary residence. Alvina shall maintain the primary residence in reasonably good condition during the period of her exclusive occupancy. Upon the youngest child of the marriage attaining the age of twenty-one, the 26 Downing Street or any replacement primary residence then owned by the parties) shall be placed on the market for sale and the net proceeds of the sale, after the payment of the mortgage, broker’s fees, and all reasonable and customary clothing expenses, shall be equally divided between the parties. Michael shall not be entitled to a credit for paying down mortgage principal, if any, during Alvina’s exclusive occupancy of the residence (or otherwise).”
“Paris, France Apartment. The parties currently hold joint title to an apartment located at Rue Duphot, 75001, Paris, France (the “Paris Apartment”). There is no mortgage on the Paris Apartment and neither party shall encumber the Paris Apartment without the express written consent of the other party. The Paris Apartment shall continue to be jointly owned by the parties, with each party having equal decision-making authority concerning the property, through an Event of Marital Dissolution. Upon the occurrence of an Event of Marital Dissolution, Alvina shall receive sole title, ownership and occupancy rights to the Paris Apartment and the contents thereof (excluding artwork, the disposition of which is covered in paragraph 6.9 herein) and Michael waives any rights therein and thereto. Michael shall execute all documents necessary to transfer title of the Paris Apartment to Alvina as soon as is practicable following an Event of Marital Dissolution (and shall be responsible for any and all taxes or other expenses associated with such transfer, if any) and Alvina shall retain sole and exclusive ownership of the property and shall be entitled to dispose of the property in any way she deems appropriate.”
“Any other residences which the parties choose to put in joint names (or hold title through an entity in which both parties are members or partners) shall be considered to be equally owned by the parties, with such property to be sold upon an Event of Marital Dissolution and the net proceeds of sale equally divided.”
“Finally, Mrs White criticised the use of net values, arrived at after deducting estimates of the costs and capital gains tax likely to be incurred if the farms were sold. Mr White still owns and uses the farms. The farms have not been sold. Counsel submitted that the use of net values in this situation should be discontinued. I do not agree. As with so much else in this field, there can be no hard and fast rule, either way. When making a comparison it is important to compare like with like, so far as this may be possible in the particular case. In the present case a comparison based on net values is fairer than would be a comparison of Mrs White' cash award and the gross value of the farms. Under her award Mrs White will have money. She can invest or use it as she pleases. Mr White's equivalent, as a cash sum, is the net value of the farms. The farms have to be sold before he can have money to invest or use in other ways. What will be his financial position if he is able to retain the farms or parts of them? Will he better off financially? Dairy farming is currently languishing in the doldrums. On the evidence there is no reason to suppose that the farms are likely to yield a better financial return at present than the investment return to be expected if Mr White sold up and invested the net proceeds.”
“Fourth, the figure for capital gains tax presupposes a distribution of all the assets to the beneficiaries. Although the normal rule as stated in White v White[2001] 1 AC 596 is that latent capital gains tax should be allowed the court must nonetheless be realistic. I consider it reasonable to allow this latent sum but I will bear in mind that it may be a long time before any such tax is paid by the husband (or anyone else) and that in the meantime the husband will continue to have the use of the assets.”
“57. Mr. Pointer's submission is that latent CGT (estimated at over£10 million , mostly in respect of the S Ltd shares) should not be taken off the gross value of the assets. This is because the shares are held offshore and as he (rightly) submits they need never be brought onshore, thus attracting CGT. The wife accepted this in cross-examination. She can readily meet her claimed outgoings as per paragraph 30 above out of the S Ltd dividends remitted into this country and subjected to tax here, without touching the capital. Further, the wife told me in terms of her wish and intention to leave the shares to the children, just as they originally came to her. She has no significant capital needs, as she is completely content with her present home, which has quite recently been fully renovated. 58. Miss Stone submits that CGT should clearly be taken off, as is the entirely conventional practice in these cases. This is because the wife should be entitled to access her resources how she likes, as and when she might wish to do so. That includes remitting the proceeds to this jurisdiction, in which case she would have to pay CGT. So the only way to compare like with like is by the use of 'after CGT' figures across the board. 59. Clearly it is forensically advantageous to the wife for the gross value of the assets to be reduced by the incidence of the latent CGT (and by taking the date of separation to value the shares) because the husband's award would represent a greater proportion of the whole. Conversely, it is forensically advantageous for the husband for latent CGT not to be taken into account (and for the shares to be taken at today's value) as his award would then represent a correspondingly smaller proportion. Lord Nicholls dealt with the CGT point in White v. White above, when he said: "Counsel submitted that the use of net values in this situation should be discontinued. I do not agree. As with so much else in this field, there can be no hard and fast rule, either way. When making a comparison it is important to compare like with like, so far as this may be possible in the particular case." 60. Given the wife's clear evidence about her wishes and intentions regarding the S Ltd shares, coupled with the modest way in which she has lived for her entire life, I agree with Mr. Pointer that the likelihood of her ever actually having to pay out significant amounts of CGT on them is a very modest one. It would require a volte-face in respect of both her stated intentions and her historic lifestyle. Accordingly, if this issue were an important one (which I do not think it is) I would not be inclined to deduct CGT on the entirety of the wife's holding. Equally, however, in the fullness of time and as things turn out, she may wish to bring some of her fortune into this jurisdiction, as she has done on some occasions in the past, thus attracting CGT on the proportion remitted. There is no way of anticipating this in any informed way. So taking a broad brush, I would deduct latent CGT on an arbitrary£10 million worth of her shareholding, but would not deduct it from the balance of the share holding. I consider that this discretionary although speculative approach is open to me, as there is 'no hard and fast rule' and because I think it is the best way to produce a fair and realistic determination on the issue, given the unusual facts of this particular case. The gross kitty therefore reduces in size accordingly.”
“69 This list does not include the asset and liability referable to C's business referred to above at para 30. Nor does it include, contrary to Mr Castle's arguments, the tax that H would pay were he to receive all the assets and remit them here. This is completely unreal. The whole point of the structure is to avoid paying tax, and H has never remitted any offshore income. Mr Castle argues that not to include it would result in an unfair imbalance as W would be able to remit onshore and would therefore have more freedom with, or at least fewer strings attached to, her money. But in order to have the benefit of the money here H does not need to remit income.”
“Legal Fees and Indemnification in Event of Suit to Enforce 13.1 Upon the occurrence of an Event of Marital Dissolution, Michael shall be responsible for Alvina’s reasonable legal and expert fees (such legal fees to be provided by one partner and one associate at a law firm of Alvina’s choosing) necessary to resolve all outstanding issues between the parties through entry of a decree dissolving the marriage, including, but not limited to any legal or expert fees related to child custody and access issues and child support, with Michael’s share of such fees not to exceed the sum of$750,000 . 13.2 If either party commences an action or proceeding to set aside or vacate this Agreement in whole or part or obtain distribution of property, or spousal support, other than as provided in and consistent with the provisions of this Agreement, then in such event that party shall be responsible for paying all of the other party’s reasonable attorneys’ fees and costs incurred in defending against such action or proceeding provided that such action proceeding, counterclaim or defense results in a decision, judgment, decree or order dismissing or rejecting said claims.”
“My client does not expect your client to pay her legal fees on the [Amex] card and he shall therefore pay them directly upon receipt of the invoice (accepting the detailed time narrative which is likely to accompany the invoice is privileged and will not be provided). I will be writing separately in due course in relation to legal fees in any event, as whilst my client will continue to meet them he is only doing so in accordance with the parameters of the nuptial Agreements with which I am sure you are familiar.”
“We have a situation now where, if nothing substantial changes on an interim, my client is left pretty much where he was for another eight weeks, in circumstances where your Honour will know that he, and he alone, is paying for the costs of these proceedings.”
“This is a billionaire father who is paying nearly now£1 million in maintenance per year to the mother, plus all the house bills, plus all the school bills, and all the legal fees to the mother. There is no order that was required for him to do that.”
“Artwork. The parties acknowledge that they have purchased certain items of artwork together prior to the marriage, which they hereby consider to be their joint property. These items include works of art by Tracy Emin, Candida Hofer, David Sherry, Terence Koh, and photographs by Yul Brenner. The parties acknowledge that Michael has gifted a Marc Chagall painting to Alvina prior to the marriage and this painting shall be considered Alvina’s Separate Property for purposes of this Agreement and Alvina has gifted a Kirshner drawing to Michael which shall be considered Michael’s Separate Property for purposes of this Agreement. Any other artwork purchased (or received by exchange) in the joint names of the parties during the marriage, or by a business entity in which each party is a member, and prior to an Event of Marital Dissolution, shall be considered the joint property of both parties. Upon the occurrence of an Event of Marital Dissolution, all artwork defined as the joint property of both parties shall be valued by a mutually agreed upon appraiser and divided between the parties in as equal a manner as possible, with the party receiving a greater value of artwork paying any sums necessary to the other party so as to equalize the values, subject to any financing attributable to such art or any loans which the parties have agreed in writing were used to acquire such art. For example, if the total value of the artwork considered to be the joint property of the parties at the time of an Event of Marital Dissolution is$5 million and, after dividing the various pieces of artwork between them, Michael has$3 million worth of art and Alvina has$2 million worth of art, Michael shall pay to Alvina the sum of$500,000 so as to equalize the value of the property being divided.”
“A. …There is no "we". There is never any emails from Alvina where she basically express ownership in any of these pieces. So ... you can't just go around and ask for ownership, because you're going with somebody ina store, in a gallery and buy a piece of art and you say, "I like it". I mean this is where I feel the costelement of this -- I feel it is abusive, because it's against common sense. Either you own it or you don'town it. At least a point where you say: I haveownership of this art. Q. What happened to the first 34 items on the list then, Mr Fuchs? Why are they, as you accept, jointly owned? A. Because I gave them to her and I was saying that to her. Q. You gave them to her? A. Yes. Q. As gifts? A. No, as where we bought them together and we have consents, but I feel I'm acting here a little bit like a hungry crocodile. The more you offer and the more you give, the more you are asking. Q. Forgive me, Mr Fuchs, your art portfolio in 2019 was worth£29 million , wasn't it, very valuable, and these are only tiny pieces around the edge; yes? A. Yes. Q. So we are not talking about somebody biting your arm off to grab large chunks of your portfolio. We are talking about a few pieces that she says she was particularly interested in and bought with you and discussed with you while you were married? A. Yes, and this.”
“53. Notwithstanding the relatively young age of the wife I consider it reasonable to work on the whole-life provision implicit in the Duxbury formula. This was a long relationship and there have been six children born. It is reasonable in such circumstances for the wife to be provided for until the end of her life. It is pre-eminently reasonable that the wife should be required to amortise - that is to say, to spend - her Duxbury fund. Indeed, I struggle to conceive of any case where in the assessment of a claimant’s needs it could be tenably argued that it was reasonable for her not to have to spend her own money in meeting them. After all, that is what money is for. The endgame of the contrary argument is that it would be reasonable for a respondent to have to fund a claimant’s testamentary ambitions. I cannot conceive of any case where that could be said to be reasonable. 54. The wife’s home is very large. She accepts that it would be reasonable for her to downsize in her autumn years. In my judgment it would be reasonable for her to release equity of£1.5 million when she reaches the age of 60. Moreover, at that point it is reasonable for her spending to reduce by a third. After all, virtually everybody moving into retirement and onto a pension has to reduce their spending.”
“I agree that a parent's wish to be in a position to leave money to his or her children would not normally fall within paragraph (b) as a financial need, either of the husband or of the wife. But this does not mean that this natural parental wish is wholly irrelevant to the section 25 exercise in a case where resources exceed the parties' financial needs. In principle, a wife's wish to have money so that she can pass some on to her children at her discretion is every bit as weighty as a similar wish by a husband. A Duxbury type fund is intended to provide money for living expenses but not more. … In my view, in a case where resources exceed needs, the correct approach is as follows. The judge has regard to all the facts of the case and to the overall requirements of fairness. When doing so, the judge is entitled to have in mind the wish of a claimant wife that her award should not be confined to living accommodation and a vanishing fund of capital earmarked for living expenses which would leave nothing for her to pass on. The judge will give to that factor whatever weight, be it much or little or none at all, he considers appropriate in the circumstances of the particular case.”
“Based on each party’s assets, income, earning potential and the distribution of property each will receive pursuant to the terms of this Agreement, each party does hereby acknowledge that he or she has or will have ample financial resources to be self- supporting throughout his or her life and, therefore, each party does hereby waive, relinquish and release his or her rights to permanent maintenance or temporary maintenance, permanent alimony or temporary alimony, lump sum alimony, “quantum meruit alimony” or other permanent or temporary support of any kind from the other in the event the parties separate, divorce, annul or otherwise terminate their marriage to each other, as prescribed or authorized by the common law or any statute, including, without limitation, New York Family Court Act Article 4 and New York Domestic Relations Law Section 236, Part B(6), any amendment or successor thereto, or the similar law of any jurisdiction within or without the United States.”
“The court shall have regard to all the circumstances including: (a) the income, earning capacity, property and other financial resources which each [parent] has or is likely to have in the foreseeable future; (b) the financial needs, obligations and responsibilities which each [parent] has or is likely to have in the foreseeable future; (c) the financial needs of the child; (d) the income, earning capacity (if any), property and other financial resources of the child; (e) any physical or mental disability of the child; (f) the manner in which the child was being, or was expected to be, educated or trained.”
“the court shall in particular have regard to the following matters: (a) the financial needs of the child; (b) the income, earning capacity (if any), property and other financial resources of the child; (c) any physical or mental disability of the child; (d) the manner in which he was being and in which the parties to the marriage expected him to be educated or trained; (e) the considerations mentioned in relation to the parties to the marriage in paragraphs (a), (b), (c) and (e) of subsection (2) above.”
“As regards the exercise of those powers in relation to a child of the family, the court shall in particular have regard to the matters mentioned in section 25(3)(a) to (e) of the 1973 Act.”
“The reason for the omission of the requirement to treat the child's welfare as the first consideration is probably that these provisions apply in cases where the adult parties are, or were, married to one another and, therefore, the court will usually be faced with claims for some provision for the adults as well as for the children. In such cases it makes sense to provide that the children's welfare should come before that of the adults in determining those claims. Nevertheless, in cases under theChildren Act 1989 the welfare of the child concerned, even if neither the paramount nor the first consideration, must be one of the relevant circumstances to be taken into account when assessing whether and how to order provision.”
“Paragraph 4(1)(c) requires me next to consider the financial needs of the child. Mr Karsten (on behalf of the father) accepts that the concept of reasonable requirements is just as appropriate under this heading as it is in the matrimonial context, although of course we are looking at T's requirements rather than those of anyone else. This is the nub of the case. The child obviously requires a home; full-time care; provision for her food and other day-to-day requirements, such as clothes, toys, books and transport. It has long been established that a child's need for a carer enables account to be taken of the caring parent's needs, in this case, in particular, for accommodation rather than for maintenance. The authority for that is in Haroutunian v Jennings(1980) 1 FLR 62 , but it was said again in the case of A v A (already referred to).”
“I would only wish to amplify by saying that welfare must be not just ‘one of the relevant circumstances’ but, in the generality of cases, a constant influence on the discretionary outcome. I say that because the purpose of the statutory exercise is to ensure for the child of parents who have never married and who have become alienated and combative, support and also protection against adult irresponsibility and selfishness, at least insofar as money and property can achieve those ends.”
“[49] Thus, in my judgment, the court must recognise the responsibility, and often the sacrifice, of the unmarried parent (generally the mother) who is to be the primary carer for the child, perhaps the exclusive carer if the absent parent disassociates from the child. In order to discharge this responsibility the carer must have control of a budget that reflects her position and the position of the father, both social and financial. On the one hand she should not be burdened with unnecessary financial anxiety or have to resort to parsimony when the other parent chooses to live lavishly. On the other hand whatever is provided is there to be spent at the expiration of the year for which it is provided. There can be no slack to enable the recipient to fund a pension or an endowment policy or otherwise to put money away for a rainy day. The wife’s revised budget for the household is£2,355,520 . Of this she has calculated that£299,400 are expenses which are strictly personal to her, and are not referable in any shape or form to the cost of providing for the children in her household.”
“21. The extent of the non-residential parent’s wealth may still inform reasonableness of budgetary claims as well as ability to pay; that is, for example, the child of a wealthy man may well expect to be dressed in designer rather than high street store clothes. However, that is not to say that the court may dispense with any budget and sanction an award supportive of a lavish lifestyle devoid of context to the relevant child’s circumstances as is argued on behalf of this appellant. The court is responsible for ensuring appropriate financial support for the child and must confine the aspect of the carer’s allowance within the award to its legitimate purpose. The most casual analysis of a proposed budgetary allowance for a five-year-old child which includes membership of Annabel’s nightclub reveals the exaggeration of the claim to compensate or benefit the previous partner in their own right and not as carer for the child. 22. Courts dealing with Schedule 1 applications routinely follow the decision in In re P (Child: Financial Provision)[2003] 2 FLR 865 . The nature of the child’s home environment provides the obvious baseline from which to consider commensurate levels of maintenance and is as good as any other.”
“the nature of the child’s home environment provides the obvious baseline.”
“I bear in mind a broad range of imprecise information from the extortionate demands (but excellent service) of Norland nannies, to au pair girls and mother’s helps, from calculations in personal injury and fatal accident claims and from the notice-boards in the employment agencies I pass daily. I allow£8,000 under this head. It is almost certainly much less than the father would have to pay were he to be employing staff, but to allow more would be – or would be seen to be – paying maintenance to the former mistress who has no claim in her own right to be maintained.”
“60. I will have to do my best to come to a conclusion as to what is reasonable whilst remembering that the exceptional wealth and remarkable standard of living enjoyed by these children during the marriage takes this case entirely out of the ordinary. … 71. Despite HH not attending before me to give evidence and be cross-examined, I am of the view that I should consider HRH’s budget carefully and make any adjustments that are appropriate. If I did not do so, I would, in effect, be giving HRH carte blanche to include any item however inappropriate or unreasonable, in her figures. Equally, however, I am absolutely clear that I must do so with a very clear eye to the exceptional circumstances of this case, such as the truly opulent and unprecedented standard of living enjoyed by these parties in Dubai and the fact that I have not heard HH cross-examined on the many pertinent matters that Mr Cusworth would wish to put to him, including, in particular, his expenditure and lifestyle. … 91. In reaching my conclusions, I have very much had in mind the figures that were spent during the marriage in Dubai, as exemplified by the 2019 budget, signed by HH. I have not heard from HH. I am unable to compare his expenditure with that sought by HRH. I accept, in accordance with authority, that the children should be able to have a lifestyle that is not entirely out of kilter with that enjoyed by them in Dubai and that enjoyed by HH and his family. I accept, of course, that it will be quite impossible to replicate, pound for pound, the standard of living they enjoyed before their parents separated but I am going to be generous and accept many of the figures put forward by HRH.”
“Doing the best they can on the information available, my solicitors have prepared a schedule of estimated future needs as set out in the yearly budget served on28 July 2022 ,”
“But in my mind I secured in the pre-nup and whatI did in our marriage, she lives very comfortable tillthe rest of her life and my kids live also a wonderfullife and I believe that kids to smother them in luxurymakes them jaded. I want them to learn the value ofmoney. I want them to become independent smart kids and not something like getting entitled boys and money candestroy character. I did that with my daughters and I'mvery proud of my daughters. They are independent.My ex-wife when my daughter was not bringing thevideo back Blockbuster at that time when they had videostores and it cost$1 dollar lately, she was yelling andscreaming them and they are now independent smartadults.And I'm doing the same thing with my 16-year-oldson. And in my mind I should be work as inspirationthat I have nice things but the kids shouldn't definethemselves through what I have or what I don't have.I want to give them the best education and if they arestarting a business I will help them. That's what --how my philosophy is but not having four nannies andfive housekeepers and bossing them around. That's notthe spirit of what I want to see my kids getting,raising up.”