"The behaviour is much more likely to be the result of parenting which he has experienced both in the time when Mr G lived in the household and subsequently."
“41. Insofar as the mother is concerned, she has given evidence before me and conducted her case with great vigour. There are in the bundle Trio-Tech reports, and I was told yesterday that another trio-Tech report is about to be made available. It is not available. I therefore give this Judgment on the basis that I accept that this mother has not recently taken drugs, and I do not need the Trio-Tech report in order to confirm that. The mother is clearly an intelligent lady. During the course of her conducting her case, however, she has shown very clearly that she considers herself to be in a battle with the social workers. She has shown no insight into the issues of the case. She criticised the placement of [K], but it is she who in fact came to Court to ensure that [K] stayed in that very placement. At one stage during the course of today she asserted that the social worker takes cannabis in the same way as Mr Bailey does. That is not something which was put to the social worker, nor is it something which has been asserted before. 42. She shows no insight at all into why there are concerns about drugs having been in the household. Of course, those are not the only concerns in this case. The major concern in this case is the effect of the parenting on the children’s behaviour. The mother told me quite clearly during the course of today that she does not consider that she needs any form of psychotherapy. She says that the concerns now are more than a year old and they need not concern me. On the positive side in respect of the mother, it is quite clear that she has sought help over the last year, and I am satisfied, as she has told me, that even though she thinks she does not need it, she will go to psychotherapy if it is offered to her. I commend her for that.”
"I am satisfied that in this case these parents and these children have been thoroughly assessed by a number of extremely competent professionals. Despite the positives that have been pointed out to me, I am satisfied that if these children were returned home, very quickly behaviour problems exhibited by [M] and [ME] would be replicated, and not only would they be replicated by [M], they would also eventually progress in terms of [K] and [S]. The process that [M] has been making thus far, in my view, would be stopped, as once again the mother sought to find an organic cause for his problems rather than her own parenting. For [K] and [S], I have no doubt there would be a similar outcome, and they would end up with much the same behaviour problems as their elder siblings. I am satisfied that none of these children can now return home to the care of their mother or Mr [B]."
"No doubt if a child in the future is born, the Local Authority will look at the family circumstances that then apply and conduct a reassessment and review to take account of any change in circumstances."
“17. The assertion by Mr Miss Booth that art 6 obliged the judge to discontinue on either 12 June or, if not then, on 14 June, seems to me to be an unrealistic submission. In this jurisdiction the proceedings are not adversarial proceedings. The judge always holds an inquisitorial responsibility, It is his difficult task to maintain a balance between the rights of the children to an early determination of their future. The obligation of the judge to avoid delay is expressed in the statute. I cannot see that it could be said that this judge, supremely experienced in this field of work, fell into error in balancing the rights of the children to determination against the rights of the parents to a fair trial. It is not a case in which the parents were denied the opportunity to put their case. It is manifest that the judge endeavoured, to the best of his ability, to ensure that the received the support which is conventionally given by a judge and advocates to unrepresented litigants. […] 21. When one considers the requirements ofart 6 of the Convention , it is relevant to remember that art 6 requires the entire proceedings to have been conducted on a fair basis. It is not appropriate simply to extract part of the process and look at that in isolation. In this case, as my Lord has said, there had been abundant legal advice and guidance of the most skilled nature available to Mr and Mrs T before the matter came before Wall J. There had also been the possibility, indeed the obligation, to produce further evidence: steps that had not been taken on the instance either of Mr and Mrs T or of those were acting for them. I do not therefore agree that, in assessing the impact of the Convention in this case, one should necessarily start on the day upon which the adjournment was sought, ignoring everything that had gone before. Further, I do not agree that, in proceedings of this nature, in which the children as well as the parents have an intimate and pressing interest, one should look at the question of fairness to the parents in paramount priority to fairness (in terms of a prompt decision, which is another aspect of art) to the children. In the passage that my Lord has read, it is clearly apparent that the judge had, and properly had, the interests of the children well in mind when he was making his decision. 22. However, I put those matters to one side. I will look at the case on the basis upon which Miss Booth put it in support of the submission that art 6 did require a decision, either to adjourn the trial or to stop it at the point that I have indicated. We have to remind ourselves, as I have already said, that art 6 is concerned with the overall fairness of the proceedings. The article itself lays down very few absolute rules. That said, both the jurisprudence of the European Court and simple common sense, of a kind that an English lawyer can immediately identify, do require in general terms that certain elements are present in any judicial proceedings, an obvious example is the right and ability of those concerned in the proceedings to put their case. Here Mr and Mrs T had ample opportunity and occasion, as the judge was satisfied they had done. 23. Another consideration is that there should be equality of arms between the parties but, in my view, that does not mean that there must necessarily be legal representation on both sides, indeed on all sides, more particularly where everybody concerned in the case was acutely aware of the need give every assistance to people who were representing themselves. Provided that the tribunal is itself aware o and constantly reminds itself of the duty of fairness, it is very much a matter for that tribunal, and is recognised in the jurisprudence of the Convention as being to a substantial extent a matter for that tribunal, whether, in all the circumstances, it is able to discharge the case fairly.”
"Have I had evidence about this Mrs Mason?"
"Well, I think there should have been evidence filed if it is going to be relied upon."