“….. I realise it is a long time since July to be considering this but there are reasons why it’s taking this long and that is the seemingly chequered history that Mr Scott and you Mr Lewis have had with companies in the past. Every company that you both have been involved with seems to have gone bankrupt owing a lot of money to people”
“well, do you have BB Transport and Storage and Logistics just recently, prior to that for Mr Scott there’s been Oxford Hotel Management Limited, Dova Interiors Limited and Croft Hotel Bournemouth Limited, Woodcroft Tower Hotel Limited. So yeah. Oh, and Bison Transport and [Roadways] express have both gone out there as well”
“….. What is Mr Scott’s involvement he’s just a kind of guy sitting in a chair with a white cat and jersey as he dispenses lots of money around”
“Yes, it’s always better to talk to the actual operator people rather than have it all sent through a highly paid barrister. Well, so yeah on the summary I mean as far I’m as I’m aware it’s pretty well alright except maybe when one or two licences were refused that was prior to the involvement with your stroke with Mr Scott”
“yeah, why does it have to be an offshore investor though……”
“well, I suppose that at least its Jersey and not Cayman Islands.”
“1.- (1) In determining whether an individual is of good repute, a traffic commissioner may have regard to any matter but shall, in particular, have regard to – (a) any relevant conviction of the individual or of his servants or agents; (b) any other information in his possession which appears to him to relate to the individual’s fitness to hold a licence. (2) in determining whether a company is of good repute, a traffic commissioner shall have regard to all the material evidence including, in particular- (a) any relevant convictions of the company or of any of its officers, servants or agents; (b) any other information in his possession as to the previous conduct of- (i) any of the company’s officers, servants or agents, or (ii) any of its directors, in whatever capacity, if that conduct appears to him relate to the company’s fitness to hold a licence……” if that conduct appears to him relate to the company’s fitness to hold a licence……”
“20. I observe that the bank statements provided by Haulage in support of its application suggested that the company might already be operating HGV’s. Regular vehicle tax payments to DVLA and salaries to drivers were being recorded. Mr Newman admitted that the company “might have jumped the gun a bit”.”
“….. new points may arise during a hearing. It is not fatal that these have not been raised in the call up letter as long as those affected are given the opportunity, if present, of having time to consider them, with an adjournment if appropriate. But the situation must be viewed differently if those likely to be affected are not present. We do not say that an adjournment must be ordered in all such cases because it may be clear that those affected, be it operator, director or transport manager, have no intention of appearing or making representations in any event; but the need for notice of allegations to have been given must always be born in mind….”
“19. A number of important points should be considered here: “i. Our investment model is one followed by many investors across the world, including in the United Kingdom. It is both lawful and beneficial to those business which can be saved. A large number of businesses now well known to the public have been saved by investment models not unlike our own. ii. Assets includes personnel- one of our primary aims is to preserve as much of a workforce as we are able, these almost always being the principle positive asset of a business. REL are very proud to have saved over 500 jobs over the last 3 years. iii. Loss of staff is sometimes inevitable. Distressed business are, in our experience, often overstaffed, or some personnel are underperforming and continue to do so. iv. Much good is achieved by the processes we adopt: businesses continue and prosper; jobs are retained; suppliers are retained; suppliers retain a customer; and the local community benefits from jobs, investment, and secondary expenditure. v. An investment model which involves the purchase and turnaround of distressed businesses is inevitably a high-risk enterprise. For these reasons failures occur. vi. We have been very successful in our turnaround projects, for example now investing in three of the larger London coach companies that suffered during the Covid pandemic.”
“1. Information to be given under section 8 1. The information referred to in section 8 (4) is the following – (e) particulars of any relevant activities carried on, at any time before the making of the application, by any relevant person;…”
“2. In this Schedule “relevant person” means any of the following persons, namely – (a) the applicant; (b) any company of which the applicant is or has been a director; (c) where the applicant is a company, any person who is a director of the company; (d) where the applicant proposes to operate the vehicles referred to in the statement under section 8 (3) in partnership with other persons, any of those other persons; (e) any company of which any such person is mentioned in sub-paragraph (c) or (d) is or has been a director; (f) where the applicant is a company, any company of which the applicant is a subsidiary.”
“9. …. We agree that a Traffic Commissioner is required to respect the principle of the separate legal personality of an incorporated company. That principle has the result that there is a corporate veil between such a company and its directors and shareholders. Indeed, we accept that it is not enough per se that someone is the sole shareholder and the sole director of a company for a Traffic Commissioner to equate him with the company. Had the Traffic Commissioner adopted that approach she would have indeed erred in law. We refer to Edward Coakley, T/A C.R.A., T/2011/63 paragraph 6 (ii) where this Tribunal fully accepted as submission by Counsel for the appellant in that case which was summarised as follows: “In the paragraph cited the Traffic Commissioner had effectively required the appellant to answer for the company. In so doing she was lifting or piercing the corporate veil. It was the directors of the company not the appellant who were responsible for its management and control. The principle of corporate personality meant that even a 100% shareholder cannot generally be equiparated (sic) with a company whose shares he wholly owns. Yet that was essentially the approach taken by the Traffic Commissioner. Such a shareholder can be regarded as effectively the alter-ego of the company whose shares he owns if it is held that he its controlling mind. However, crucially, the Traffic Commissioner made no such explicit finding.” “In the paragraph cited the Traffic Commissioner had effectively required the appellant to answer for the company. In so doing she was lifting or piercing the corporate veil. It was the directors of the company not the appellant who were responsible for its management and control. The principle of corporate personality meant that even a 100% shareholder cannot generally be equiparated (sic) with a company whose shares he wholly owns. Yet that was essentially the approach taken by the Traffic Commissioner. Such a shareholder can be regarded as effectively the alter-ego of the company whose shares he owns if it is held that he its controlling mind. However, crucially, the Traffic Commissioner made no such explicit finding.”