"Then if she raises any grievance, she has the process. You're already …[some words are missing from the transcript] with the Chairman…. And it gives you the chance the three of you the chance to regroup whether to stick to guns or what. At least you will know the strength of her case"
"No, I think we just dismiss her summarily with right of appeal to the Chairman."
"And what I wouldn't do, Mark, is to confirm it to her in writing until she asks."
"Right. I'll scrap that then. I'll throw that away. How does this sound 'Bugger off you spawny eyed git'?"
"I think we'll tell her to bring everything into the office tomorrow. We should tell her that she's dismissed. I'll be there tomorrow morning, all day actually. She'll think we're going to cut a deal with her tomorrow."
"At the end of the day following my conversation with Mark you want to get rid of her, if she goes to the tribunal and you lose you'll stagger the payments. So what the hell?"
"92. The Tribunal's conclusion is that the appeal hearing was a sham. Its true purpose was to find out what the Claimant's case was and to sort out the Respondents case in order to meet any points the Claimant raised. 93. We came to the conclusion of fact because; (a) the total disregard of the statutory procedures and the Respondents own procedures (b) the content of the advice from Citation PLC which included; 1. put nothing in writing 2. offer her an appeal 3. re-group with the Chairmen etc 4. The Claimant not only provided a detailed letter of appeal but was also subject to a 3 hour meeting on 28 June before she was provided with any details of the allegations against her 5. Rob Lowe appears to have made no effort to check any facts put to him by the Claimant at the meeting on28 June 2006 and only collated evidence against the Claimant which was subsequently provided to her before the meeting on 21 July."
"114 The Claimants Solicitors letter of7 June 2006 was a protected act. We are of the view that the Respondent's actions from 2 June onwards were concerned to protect its position. 115 Rob Lowe's disciplinary appeal and grievance hearing was in our view a sham. Its purpose was to protect the interests of the Respondent against any possible Employment Tribunal claim. 116. The Claimant was treated less favourably in respect of the appeal and the grievance conducted by Rob Lowe. We do not consider that the appeal was conducted in the manner which was designed to determine whether or not the Claimant ought to have been dismissed or whether the Claimant's grievances were properly made out or not. It was simply to protect the Respondent's position in line with the strategy discussed with Citation PLC. We consider that the Claimant was treated this way because she had done a protected act. While the strategy was agreed upon before the Claimant's protected act (the letter of the7 June 2006 ) it was not acted upon until the Claimant put in her appeal and grievance. 117. The Tribunal is satisfied that had the Claimant not made a complaint alleging sex discrimination, the Claimant's grievance would have been treated very differently. The comments and the general tenor of the discussion with Citation PLC indicate that the Respondent was preparing itself to meet any claim that the Claimant may make against the Respondent in Employment Tribunal."
"The following principles emerge from these cases: (1) In assessing compensation the task of the tribunal is to assess the loss flowing from the dismissal, using its common sense, experience and sense of justice. In the normal case that requires it to assess for how long the employee would have been employed but for the dismissal. (2) If the employer seeks to contend that the employee would or might have ceased to be employed in any event had fair procedures been followed, or alternatively would not have continued in employment indefinitely, it is for him to adduce any relevant evidence on which he wishes to rely. However, the tribunal must have regard to all the evidence when making that assessment, including any evidence from the employee himself. (He might, for example, have given evidence that he had intended to retire in the near future). (3) However, there will be circumstances where the nature of the evidence which the employer wishes to adduce, or on which he seeks to rely, is so unreliable that the tribunal may take the view that the whole exercise of seeking to reconstruct what might have been is so riddled with uncertainty that no sensible prediction based on that evidence can properly be made. (4) Whether that is the position is a matter of impression and judgment for the tribunal. But in reaching that decision the tribunal must direct itself properly. It must recognise that it should have regard to any material and reliable evidence which might assist it in fixing just compensation, even if there are limits to the extent to which it can confidently predict what might have been; and it must appreciate that a degree of uncertainty is an inevitable feature of the exercise. The mere fact that an element of speculation is involved is not a reason for refusing to have regard to the evidence. (5) An appellate court must be wary about interfering with the tribunal's assessment that the exercise is too speculative. However, it must interfere if the tribunal has not directed itself properly and has taken too narrow a view of its role. (6) The s.98A(2) and Polkey exercises run in parallel and will often involve consideration of the same evidence, but they must not be conflated. It follows that even if a tribunal considers some of the evidence or potential evidence to be too speculative to form any sensible view as to whether dismissal would have occurred on the balance of probabilities, it must nevertheless take into account any evidence on which it considers it can properly rely and from which it could in principle conclude that the employment may have come to an end when it did, or alternatively would not have continued indefinitely. (7) Having considered the evidence, the tribunal may determine: (a) That if fair procedures had been complied with, the employer has satisfied it - the onus being firmly on the employer - that on the balance of probabilities the dismissal would have occurred when it did in any event. The dismissal is then fair by virtue of s.98A(2). (b) That there was a chance of dismissal but less than 50%, in which case compensation should be reduced accordingly. (c) That employment would have continued but only for a limited fixed period. The evidence demonstrating that may be wholly unrelated to the circumstances relating to the dismissal itself, as in the O'Donoghue case. (d) Employment would have continued indefinitely. However, this last finding should be reached only where the evidence that it might have been terminated earlier is so scant that it can effectively be ignored."