"…they seemed to suppose that that announcement was likely to have alerted the individual employees to the possibility that they might be made redundant. It is often the case that employers think that employees will anticipate something from such a vague announcement. It is our experience in these Tribunals that such an expectation is misconceived. An announcement of a review is not in any way a warning that redundancies are likely to occur."
"Ms Foxley clearly did not consider that she should consult the applicant about her proposals to see if he had any suggestions to make about the removal of the post itself and whether that was a sensible suggestion, or whether he had any other suggestions about the proposed alteration of the structure in the way in which she and Ms Dickinson proposed. She told us that she saw him to discuss the removal of the post and said "
"…the respondents' decision to dismiss was not within the band of reasonable responses. It seems to us that there was no reason at all why Ms Foxley could not have told the applicant on or immediately after 29 th October 2002 that she was considering recommending removing his role and re-distributing his duties to the new Head of IT and the small development unit in Crawley and asked him for his views about those proposals. We do accept that the respondents consulted the applicant fully and properly about alternative vacancies. They told him effectively what vacancies they had. They offered to consider him for the posts that he wished to apply for. He did ask to be considered for the one post. Mr Matovu submitted that it was within the band of reasonable responses for the respondents to come to their decision about the new structure without consulting their employees whose posts were to be removed about the proposed new structure. He submitted that the fact that the managers had interviewed all the staff was sufficient in this case for them to make the decision without any consultation with the employees themselves about their actual proposals. In our view that submission completely misses the value of consultation when a decision has to be made. The value is that consultation allows those who are connected with the work to put forward any suggestions of their own or reasons why the proposals would not work sensibly. Mr Matovu said "
"…he felt Ms Foxley and Ms Dickinson had underrated the size of his role and that it could not conveniently be combined with the Head of the IT role…"
"The respondents therefore were in a position to choose to maintain any post if they were persuaded that the benefits of retaining it outweighed the cost and it has not been suggested otherwise. On the other hand, the respondents had the benefit of employees in the group elsewhere acting in a similar role. We think on the basis of that evidence and bearing in mind the nature of the argument which Mr Mallam could and would have put forward if consulted about the removal of his post, this is a case where he only had a percentage chance of retaining his employment."
"The decision challenged here is whether the post should have been removed. In our view in this case we can consider the applicant's submissions about that point and whether they only had a percentage chance of success. It is not a question of our deciding what criteria should be applied for selection. It is an assessment of the likelihood of the applicant's likely arguments affecting the respondents' decision to remove the post."
"It will be a question of fact and degree for the industrial tribunal to consider whether consultation with the individual and/or his union was so inadequate as to render the dismissal unfair. A lack of consultation in any particular respect will not automatically lead to that result. The overall picture must be viewed by the tribunal up to the date of termination to ascertain whether the employer has or has not acted reasonably in dismissing the employee on the grounds of redundancy."
"When the principal ground of appeal is, as here, perversity of the decision of the fact-finding tribunal, there is an increased risk that the appellate body's close examination of the evidence and of the findings of fact by the employment tribunal may lead it to substitute its own assessment of the evidence and to overturn findings of fact made by the employment tribunal. Only the employment tribunal hears all the evidence first hand. The evidence available to the Employment Appeal Tribunal and to the Court of Appeal on an appeal on a question of law is always seriously and incurably incomplete. Much as one, or sometimes both, of the parties would like it to be so, an appeal from an employment tribunal is not a re-trial of the case. The scope of the appeal is limited to consideration of questions of law, which it is claimed arise on the conduct of the proceedings and the decision of the employment tribunal. The legal points must, of course, be considered in the context of the entirety of the proceedings and the whole of the decision, but with an awareness of the limitations on the court's competence to question the evidential basis for findings of fact by the employment tribunal."
"Such an appeal ought only to succeed where an overwhelming case is made out that the employment tribunal reached a decision which no reasonable tribunal, on a proper appreciation of the evidence and the law, would have reached. Even in cases where the Appeal Tribunal has 'grave doubts' about the decision of the Employment Tribunal, it must proceed with 'great care'."
"There is a continuing likelihood of him losing at the total rate of earnings for a period and then a likelihood that he will continue to lose at a lesser rate. We think that the correct way to reflect all those possibilities is to take a period of six months at the present loss of£3,079 a month which gives us a figure in the region of£18,500 and then to take a period of four further years at a figure which we have decided should be£8,000 . That figure reflects the possibility that he will get a job at a lower rate or remuneration and that he will get a job with a lower pension contribution although we do feel that the other fringe benefits are likely to be replaced once he can achieve some employment. Bearing those sorts of figures in mind we come to the conclusion that the figure for future loss here should be£50,500 doing the best that we can."
"We think then that the correct method of reflecting the loss which we have found, and taking into account as we must do, the 50% chance is to say that on that basis we find that his total loss is likely to be in the region of the£35,527 interim loss of earnings, the future loss of£50,500 , the specific pension loss of£6,400 , the loss of benefits of£2,400 and the loss of protection at£200 ."
"…the Tribunal wrongly calculated that the figure for future loss should be£50,500 over a period of four and a half years without any discount at all for accelerated receipt…"