"6. In the light of the evidence both oral and documentary, and on the balance of probabilities, the Tribunal finds that the relevant facts with regard to the issues are as follows: - (i) The applicants were employed by the respondent from various dates until30 September 2001 , as Supervisor/Mechanical Engineer, Shift Supervisor, Production Glassmaker (Float), Hot End Operator (Glassmaking) and Shift Supervisor respectively, at the respondent's Greengate Site in St Helens, Merseyside. (ii) In 1999 volunteers for redundancy within the Float Manufacturing Division of the respondent were sought in the hope that the reduction required in the workforce could be achieved by the end of March 2000, but insufficient volunteers came forward. (iii) A proposal to offer secondment to a new Float line in Sagunto, Spain was suggested by the respondent, the proposal being that any employee within the Float Division accepting such secondment would leave the Company on voluntary redundancy terms. In September 1999 Mrs Jolley took on responsibility for that project. (iv) On12 August 1999 a Works Notice was placed on notice boards offering the secondment opportunities, and a further Works Notice giving more details was issued on22 September 1999 . The terms of the secondment included an increase of salary during the secondment, a further bonus on completion of the secondment, accommodation and other benefits, but secondment was conditional upon the employees agreeing to leave the Company on voluntary redundancy terms, either prior to or on completion of the secondment and also on undertaking Spanish language training. An initial period of secondment of 12 months was contemplated but was later changed to a maximum of 18 months. There was a possibility that the seconded employees would be offered permanent employment in Sagunto under Spanish terms and conditions. (v) There was considerable interest in the secondment opportunities but that diminished when Mrs Jolley explained that the whole point of the exercise was to reduce the numbers within Float Division, and secondees would be required to leave the Company on voluntary redundancy terms at the end of the secondment, which considerably reduced the number of those interested. (vi) Eventually 14 employees, the applicants being included in that number, applied for the secondment and all were accepted. (vii) A "
"5. The issues between the parties were relatively clear-cut. By way of summary, on various dates in November and December 1999 the applicants had countersigned letters from the respondent agreeing and accepting secondment to a plant at Sagunto in Spain, on the terms and conditions set out in the letters. The fourth paragraph of the letters states, "
"11. The Tribunal reserved its decision not least because of the late hour on the fourth day of the hearing. The unanimous decision of the Tribunal is that both complaints of all applicants are dismissed. As to the breach of contract claim it was considered that Clause 4(ii) is arguably not sufficiently certain to be enforceable. However, construing the clause as drafted, the Tribunal considered the following issues, and decided each as indicated: - (i) Were there other opportunities? - The answer is in the affirmative, the phrase "the end of your secondment" being assumed to be towards the end of September 2001, and30 September 2001 at the latest. (ii) Were the applicants entitled to the opportunity to be given full consideration? - The answer is in the affirmative. (iii) Did the applicants have the opportunity? - The answer is in the negative. (iv) Were the applicants entitled to be given full consideration for any other opportunities for further employment? - The answer is in the negative, the respondent was only obliged to give the applicants the opportunity. The respondent was in breach to the extent that they did not give the applicants the opportunity, for example by informing them of the opportunities, but no more. (v) Would the applicants have been offered further employment if given other opportunities and given full consideration? - This is a matter of speculation, but having regard to the agreed policy regarding ex-apprentices and Mr Snowdon's requirements for the Instrument and Control Engineer vacancies referred to at page 193 of the bundle, this has not been established by the applicants to the satisfaction of the Tribunal and accordingly the answer is in the negative. It must follow that therefore the applicants cannot establish any loss or any entitlement to compensation for breach of contract, and that claim is accordingly dismissed. 12. As to the alleged unfair dismissals, the Tribunal decided unanimously that the dismissals were on the ground of redundancy. There is no doubt but that there was a redundancy situation at the end of 1999, and the applicants volunteered - but the date of termination of their employment was delayed by agreement because of the secondment to Spain, which was also by agreement. In those circumstances neither selection nor consultation are relevant matters, but consultation is only ever a part in considering the reasonableness of the procedure, and is not determinative of the issue; further consultation on redundancy towards the end of the employment would not have affected the position, particularly in view of the fourth paragraph of the secondment letters. Furthermore even if there had been consultation which had prolonged the employment by a few weeks the applicants cannot be said to have suffered any financial loss, having regard to the enhanced terms which they accepted. Looking broadly at the matter even if, which the Tribunal does not consider to be the case, there are shortcomings they are not viewed as so serious as to render the dismissals unfair. In short the dismissals were on the ground of redundancy, by earlier agreement, and were fair."
"Should there be any other opportunities for further employment within Pilkington at the end of your secondment, you will have the opportunity to be given full consideration."
"…further consultation on redundancy towards the end of the employment would not have affected the position, particularly in view of the fourth paragraph of the secondment letters."
"…further consultation on redundancy towards the end of the employment would not have affected the position, particularly in view of the fourth paragraph of the secondment letters. Furthermore even if there had been consultation which had prolonged the employment by a few weeks the applicants cannot be said to have suffered any financial loss, having regard to the enhanced terms which they accepted. Looking broadly at the matter even if, which the Tribunal does not consider to be the case, there are shortcomings they are not viewed as so serious as to render the dismissals unfair."