"The unanimous decision of the Tribunal is that the applicants were unfairly dismissed. The hearing of the remedy is adjourned to Monday24 June 1996 . The claims for overtime to be included in the redundancy payment received and for payment in lieu of notice are dismissed."
"The unanimous decision of the Tribunal was to order the respondents to pay the following compensation:-
"The Appellant appeals from the decision of the Industrial Tribunal at Manchester on24th June 1996 (written reasons3rd September 1996 ) .."
"The respondent is a division of British Fittings Group plc and manufactures hires and sells high pressure water jetting equipment. The company headquarters are in Birmingham and the manufacturing unit is in Salisbury. The hiring side of the business was handled at various sites in the United Kingdom. The applicants were employed at the Whitworth depot Mr Muckalt as a Store Manager, Mr Law as a Stores Buyer and Mr Harrison as a Storeman."
"Due to trading difficulties, the respondents board took a decision to move the majority of the operation carried on at the Whitworth depot to Birmingham [Whitworth, we are told, is near Rochdale, so some distance is involved in the move]. There was no evidence as to when this decision was taken or as to whether the transfer was urgent but the Managers knew four weeks before the decision was announced to the staff."
"The staff in Stores and Purchasing were told that they were being given notice of redundancy. Those with more than two years' service were being given first refusal of vacancies in Birmingham. They were told that they should give this consideration over the weekend so that it could be discussed at the individual meetings, which were arranged for Monday, 27 February. They were told that if they did not wish to entertain a job in Birmingham they would be told their redundancy package on Monday, 27 February. The Stores and Purchasing staff were told that the move of the stores to Birmingham was to start on the afternoon of Monday 27th at 3.30 pm and that it was estimated that the job would be completed by Tuesday7 March 1995 ."
"On 27 February the applicants had individual meetings with Mr Edwards and Mr Chaloner. They were asked if they were interested in vacancies at Birmingham and they indicated that they were not. They were not given any details of prospective vacancies at Birmingham. Mr Muckalt was told they would like him to leave on the Friday, his package was read out to him and he was handed a letter of dismissal. Mr Harrison left on Thursday of that week, there being no discussion after the meeting on the Monday. Mr Law was asked at the Monday meeting if he would go to Birmingham, but turned the offer down because of the short time he had had to consider it, he was handed his letter of dismissal and left on 3 March. There was no consideration in the interim and no offer of alternative employment."
"We are satisfied that there was a redundancy situation, a potentially fair reason for dismissal. We do not however, think that the respondent acted reasonably. The respondent must have known considerably before the end of February that it was going to close the depot. Indeed, the evidence is that the Managers knew that it was closing four weeks beforehand and the company had clearly had discussions with the insurers. There was no proper consultations within the guidance given to us by the EAT in Rowell v Hubbard (supra). The respondent did not consult at the earliest possible time i.e when the proposals were at a formative stage. There was no adequate information about the jobs available in Birmingham, the applicants did not have adequate time in which to consider in principle whether they wished to go to Birmingham, and the fact that redundancy letters were handed to the applicants at the individual meetings on the27 February 1995 suggests to us that the respondents' representatives went into those meetings with no intention to consider any representations which the applicants might make."
"The Tribunal is not convinced that consultations would have made no difference - there is no possible way that the Tribunal can know what the outcome would have been if there had been proper consultation. While there was a potentially fair reason for dismissal, the Tribunal are satisfied that the respondent acted unreasonably and the applicants were unfairly dismissed."
"There is no need for an 'all or nothing decision'. If the industrial tribunal thinks there is a doubt whether or not the employee would have been dismissed, this element can be reflected by reducing the normal amount of compensation by a percentage representing the chance that the employee would still have lost his employment."
"The Tribunal is not convinced that consultations would have made no difference - there is no possible way that the Tribunal can know what the outcome would have been if there had been proper consultation."