“ Well, we're trained to recognise symptoms of a problem gambler. There's quite a few, but the main ones are that a customer will come in and he will ask for help, he will say he has a problem. His friends and family will say: this man's got a problem and you should be stopping him. He will show remorse for the amount of money and time he's spent in the casino. He will -- you will see that his mood swings a lot, and he will -- sometimes when he's having a really bad problem, he will look depressed and he won't speak to anybody, he will look down, he will come in. They get a bit -- their personal hygiene goes out the window and they become very scruffy when they're on a low. They get a bit anxious when they can't get money. They will start to pester the other customers for more funds, become a nuisance. Also another indicator is a person who comes in and thinks gambling is a way to make money. … One or more [of these indicators], but generally speaking you can spot them straight away. Q You observed Mr Al Geabury over many occasions. Did you see him indicating any of those features that you've just described? No. Q Not even on the night of 19 February? No.”
“Ask your manager. Normally whenever something makes me upset I make a self-exclusion form immediately. I make it 20 times or 30 times.”
“On22 November 2009 , I was working at the Casino and was present when the Defendant signed a self-exclusion form and I specifically recall the details of the incident on that night. Prior to the Defendant signing the self-exclusion form, I recall that there had been an incident between the Defendant and one of the dealers. The Defendant was playing in a private room at the Casino, the Carmen Room, which is off the main Casino floor. One of the roles of the dealer is to say ‘no more bests’, but the Defendant was becoming irate when the dealer was making that call. I approached the Defendant to calm him down and explained that the dealer did need to say ‘no more bets.”
“On that same night, a little later, I was called to reception, and I believed that the Defendant wanted to resign his membership. The Defendant said ‘I have had enough’, and I understood that he was referring to the dealers calling ‘no more bets’ and he stated to me that he wanted to exclude himself from the Casino. I asked the Defendant if he understood about self-exclusion and that he would not be allowed back to the Casino. I explained to the Defendant that if he signed he would not be able to return to the Casino and that it would be better to cancel his membership but he insisted on signing the form as he was upset by the dealer. The Defendant responded by saying words to the effect of ‘just give me the paperwork’.”
“Despite my efforts to put Casino gambling beyond my reach by signing VSE form is excluding myself for life from the casinos at which I gambled; the urge to gamble remained and in July 2010 (only a matter of months after having voluntarily self-excluded myself for life) I sought to be readmitted to gamble at the Ritz club.”
“I was told by Mr Roger Marris and Andrew Loves that if I wanted to gamble again they would prepare a letter and if I signed the letter I would be permitted to gamble. I do not recognise my signature on the letter.”
“At the time I was very upset at how the dealer treated me at the table; he was rude and disrespectful towards me. I have self-excluded at other Mayfair casinos for similar reasons and wish to point out that this has nothing to do with gambling. I would like to stress that I am happy to visit casinos and play as long as I am treated respectfully. Would you please remove this instruction at your earliest convenience?”
“explained that his previous resignation was not the result of problem gambling but solely related to the negative attitude of one member of the table staff…the Defendant also explained that he is a person of considerable wealth and only gambles for fun; he said he takes a small percentage of its profit from his various business interests and only gambles that amount…; ”
“… despite ticking the “for life” box has lifted his ban from other casinos. He has been spoken to by senior management and has confirmed both in writing and verbally that he didn’t exclude because of a social responsibility related problem.”
“… we are prevented from acceding to the request he made in his letter, despite his protestation now that it was because he was unhappy with the dealer and his self-exclusion must stay in place for at least 5 years. ”
“Unfortunately we are unable to accede to your request for the following reasons. When you requested self exclusion from the casino you were spoken to by Terry Beardall, Gaming Manager, who explained the procedure and consequences of undertaking such a step, including the fact that once entered into self exclusion cannot be rescinded. Nonetheless you then signed the form on which you requested a lifetime self exclusion. The form, a copy of which is attached, explains that the maximum period of exclusion is five years and we therefore take any lifetime self exclusion as meaning a five year exclusion. ”
“as he has self excluded himself and cannot be allowed entry, Riachi asked me why and explained the situation to him, apparently (the D) thought that Charles would be able to have him reinstated and that’s why he asked Charles to bring him in. They left the building immediately without any problem and Charles apologised before he left and said he did not know otherwise would not have brought him in.”
“Alexa is asking me if the letter has been delivered she said it should have been delivered three weeks ago.”
“no haven’t spoken to Alexa will do it when I get back. Let her know that we delivered the letter to his office a few days after she sent it over.”
“It is unfortunate that the customer signed a self exclusion form if that was not his true intention. Clearly there is a responsibility on both parties to ensure that they understand the commitment being made. We should also bear in mind that those who do have problem gambling can be very devious and you will need to be confident as to all the circumstances before coming to a decision.”
“sort out the above self excluded gentleman”
“he sent in the letter a number of weeks ago stating that he hadn’t self excluded because of a gambling problem but that he was upset with a dealer. Cameron and I had a meeting with him and Mr Al Geabury confirmed that he did not have a gambling problem. The night he excluded Terry Beardall spoke with him and explained what he was doing and it would be better for him to cancel his membership as he also told Terry that it was not a gambling problem but one of our dealers had upset him but he still insisted on signingthe form. I would like to reinstate him and I await your comments and hopefully instructions.” “he sent in the letter a number of weeks ago stating that he hadn’t self excluded because of a gambling problem but that he was upset with a dealer. Cameron and I had a meeting with him and Mr Al Geabury confirmed that he did not have a gambling problem. The night he excluded Terry Beardall spoke with him and explained what he was doing and it would be better for him to cancel his membership as he also told Terry that it was not a gambling problem but one of our dealers had upset him but he still insisted on signingthe form. I would like to reinstate him and I await your comments and hopefully instructions.”
“purely because of an incident with a dealer that evening. I would like to state for the record that I do not have and never had a problem with Gambling”
“that Mr Al-Geabury was upset by one of our dealers and left the premises as a result of this incident and for this reason alone”
“He would say -- as he used at the Colony -- he would say he wasn't allowed to use his debit card at Crockfords, then he'd go to the Colony, draw off his debit card and if he had won, it wouldn't be a problem, but if he lost, he would say he wasn't allowed to draw the money and so get his money back”
“I was never under the impression that the gentleman had a gambling addiction or was a problem gambler. I believe he was a gentleman who likes to win and when he asked me not to return his TT funds or let him play, I believe it was because he wanted to go away winning…I know the Defendant well. He was a very difficult customer and he was always looking to cause a dispute with various ways, the way he played, asking us to do things, and then if you didn’t do them, then he would use that as a cause to complain. It was always about – because he was a bad loser.”
“My main point of concern that I think needs to be addressed is his consistent mentioning of ‘Self-excluding’, Self-exclusion is a term used when defining someone who has a problem gambling not to use when you are angry or upset with the manner in which you have been dealt with in the club. I think this needs to be mentioned as from what I remember of dealing with him in the past he does not like losing.”
“after being excluded for a period of 18 months, I have no concerns about allowing the Defendant back in the club to game. His level of gambling is far outweighed by his financial wherewithal.”
‘all was fine and his business was going well and the money was not a factor and he was okay.’
“issues we are currently having with Al-Geabury. We do not expect this to be resolved quickly, as Al-Geabury is now claiming ‘problem gambling’ as a means to retrieve his recent losses.”
“I have mentioned to you in the past that he is an accident waiting to happen, we have heard the story with Terry’s partner at the Colony and now Aspinalls. We have stopped him asking us to stop him playing for certain periods of time and from asking us not to return any funds he has asked us to send to his bank. As long as he does not ask us to self-exclude him we should be ok, but gaming staff will have to be on their guard, I am sure Martin will concur.”
“It can be very difficult to follow a customer’s instructions if they purposely go against their own instructions. If a customer says, you know, ‘I don’t want to play until 6 o’clock in the morning’, and then at 5.45 he plays because maybe the staff have changed, they wasn’t aware of the instruction or the instruction had changed from the day previously, basically the customer then has what’s a free bet, for example. They can play very heavily for 15 minutes. If they win, they don’t say anything. If they lose, they can say, ‘oh I told you not to let me play before 6 o’clock, I need my money back’.”
“I think it could be interpreted in two different ways, really quite polar opposite ways, namely that he is externalising the responsibility for his gambling and he has a problem with it, or he is exerting control by himself by saying, "I don't want to gamble and I'd like you to stop me doing so".”
“I have been informed by Roger that Mr S Al Geabury facility has been increased to£2,000,000 with immediate effect. This can be drawn on debit card or cheques drawn on his uk bank”
“He started to speak over me saying that he wanted another£5 million and Roger has given another player namely (SE) a£8 million CCF and did we not think he was as good as him”
“[The Defendant] then reduced his demand from£5 million down to£2 million then he asked for£1 million . [The Defendant] then said to me if we did not give him the excess he would VSE as it was not fair we were not giving him a chance to get his money back. I tried to explain that Mr Marris would be unable to grant the excess but again [the Defendant] spoke over me and told me to call him and tell he will VSE if he can’t have the money”
“I AM ADDICT. I TOLD YOU THESE BEFORE AND YOU OFFER TO ME CREDIT. THESE IS CRIMINAL”
“We agree that the diagnoses we have made, as is usually the case in psychiatric practice, depend on to a significant extent on self-reporting from Mr Al Geabury. In addition to self-reported information we agree that information from all sources for example the evidence relating to Mr Al Geabury’s gambling behaviour from casino documents will inform our diagnosis. We agree that it must ultimately be a matter for the court to make findings in relation to the facts where these are in dispute. The extent to which we are justified in making differing interpretations in this case will depend on the findings of the court where the facts are in dispute.”
“[D] clearly does return repeatedly to the casino. Whether he's returning to win back losses is difficult to say.”
“ Codes of practice (1) The Commission shall issue one or more codes of practice about the manner in which facilities for gambling are provided (whether by the holder of a licence under this Act or by another person). (2) In particular, a code shall describe arrangements that should be made by a person providing facilities for gambling for the purposes of– (a) ensuring that gambling is conducted in a fair and open way, (b) protecting children and other vulnerable persons from being harmed or exploited by gambling, and (c) making assistance available to persons who are or may be affected by problems related to gambling.” (1) The Commission shall issue one or more codes of practice about the manner in which facilities for gambling are provided (whether by the holder of a licence under this Act or by another person). (2) In particular, a code shall describe arrangements that should be made by a person providing facilities for gambling for the purposes of– (a) ensuring that gambling is conducted in a fair and open way, (b) protecting children and other vulnerable persons from being harmed or exploited by gambling, and (c) making assistance available to persons who are or may be affected by problems related to gambling.”
“S.82 Compliance with code of practice (1) An operating licence shall by virtue of this section be subject to the condition that the licensee ensures compliance with any relevant social responsibility provision of a code of practice issued under section 24. (2) In subsection (1)– (a) the reference to a licensee includes a reference to anyone employed or engaged by a licensee to perform an operational function within the meaning of section 80, and (b) the reference to a social responsibility provision of a code is a reference to a provision identified by a code as being included in pursuance of section 24(2). (3) This section does not prevent compliance with a provision of a code, other than a social responsibility provision, from being made the subject of a condition under section 75, 77 or 78.”
“33 Provision of facilities for gambling (1) A person commits an offence if he provides facilities for gambling unless– (a) an exception provided for in subsection (2) or (3) applies, or … (2) Subsection (1) does not apply to any activity by a person if– (a) he holds an operating licence authorising the activity, and (b) the activity is carried on in accordance with the terms and conditions of the licence. …. (4) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable on summary conviction to– (a) imprisonment for a term not exceeding 51 weeks, (b) a fine not exceeding level 5 on the standard scale, or (c) both.”
“2.5 Self-exclusion All non-remote licences and remote betting intermediary (trading rooms only) licences, but not gaming machine technical and gambling software licences Social responsibility code provision “Licensees must have and put into effect procedures for self-exclusion and take all reasonable steps to refuse service or to otherwise prevent an individual who has entered a self-exclusion agreement from participating in gambling.”
“Self-exclusion procedures should require individuals to take positive action in order to self-exclude. This can be a signature on a self-exclusion form. Whenever practicable, individuals should be able to self-exclude without having to enter gambling premises. Before an individual self-excludes, licensees should provide or make available sufficient information about what the consequences of self-exclusion are. Licensees should take all reasonable steps to extend the self-exclusion to premises of the same type owned by the operator in the customer’s local area. In setting the bounds of that area licensees may take into account the customer’s address (if known to them), anything else known to them about the distance the customer ordinarily travels to gamble and any specific request the customer may make. Licensees should encourage the customer to consider extending their self-exclusion to other licensees’ gambling premises in the customer’s local area. Customers should be given the opportunity to discuss self-exclusion in private, where possible. Licensees should take steps to ensure that: the self-exclusion period is a minimum of six months and give customers the option of extending this to a total of at least five years a customer who has decided to enter a self-exclusion agreement is given the opportunity to do so immediately without any cooling-off period. However, if the customer wishes to consider the self-exclusion further (for example to discuss with problem gambling groups) the customer may return at a later date to enter into self-exclusion at the end of the period chosen by the customer (and at least six months later), the self-exclusion remains in place, unless the customer takes positive action in order to gamble again. No marketing material should be sent to the individual unless the individual has taken positive action in order to gamble again, and has agreed to accept such material where a customer chooses not to renew the self-exclusion, and makes a positive request to begin gambling again, the customer is given one day to cool off before being allowed access to gambling facilities. The contact must be made via telephone or in person The Licensee should retain the records relating to a self-exclusion agreement at least until the agreement has been formally ended. (Please note that the Commission does not require the licensee to carry out any particular assessment or make any judgment as to whether the previously self-excluded individual should again be permitted access to gambling. The requirement to take positive action in person or over the phone is purely to a) check that the customer has considered the decision to access gambling again and allow them to consider the implications; and b) implement the one day cooling-off period and explain why this has been put in place”
“any operator choosing not to comply with an ordinary code provision should have clear and well argued reasons for this”; (ii) an entry on the Gambling Commission’s website (last reviewed in October 2012) which states in answer to a FAQ about customers insisting on cancelling self-exclusion agreements, as follows: “Before a customer completes a self exclusion agreement, the significance and implications of this action should be explained to them, including the minimum duration of six months. Generally speaking, it is considered that this length of self exclusion is necessary to enable an individual to deal with their problem gambling behaviour. The Gambling Commission recommends that a self-exclusion agreement is not ended before the original agreed date but we recognise that there may be occasional exceptions to this. There may be occasional situations in which an operator considers it appropriate to cancel a self-exclusion agreement but the risk that an individual might subsequently allege a breach of duty of care should be borne in mind. Where it is considered to be appropriate to cancel a self exclusion, the reasons for the decision should be clearly documented and retained.”
“it would place a burden on the bookmaker pursuant to which the problem gambler could freely take home his profits, but look to the bookmaker for the return of his losses, without even seeking the bookmaker’s assistance to help him control his gambling.”