“You will appreciate that as my PC is a personal PC rather than a company one, it contains lots of personal and sensitive information including personal photographs, bank account details both for myself and my family as well as confidential information on my close friends and family. I am sure you understand the sensitivity of the matter and the reasons why I cannot provide you with the details or give my consent to access this personal information.”
“Clearly there is now a dispute between the parties as to who the Computer belongs to and unless we have your confirmation that you will return it to our client within seven days (subject to the provision of the undertakings referred to below) our client will be left with no alternative other than to issue proceedings against you and the other parties involved for the conversion of our client’s property.”
“Clearly until the matter is resolved by the Court or agreement the Computer needs to be preserved. Accordingly please provide the following undertakings by 4pm tomorrow: That you personally and SWP and/or Floreat by their servants, agents or otherwise will not 1. open or tamper with the Computer until agreement or further order and 2. that you will forthwith procure the delivery up of the Computer into our custody upon our undertaking to hold it and not to allow any deletion of any material contained in it pending agreement or further order. If we do not receive the undertakings by the deadline referred to we will immediately apply for an injunction to preserve the position pending the resolution of this dispute either by agreement or proceedings…”
“Notwithstanding that your client is not entitled to any relief, our client is prepared to allow this firm to take safe keeping of the Computer pending resolution of this dispute. On any view this obviates the need for your client to seek any relief.”
“The offer in… your letter is wholly inadequate as you fail to offer any undertakings to preserve the Computer, to retain it and not to open or tamper with it. … To avoid an ex parte application today please confirm and/or provide the following: 1. Confirm the Computer has not been opened, accessed or tampered with in any way. If it has then please provide full details of what steps have been taken to access the Computer and what information has been downloaded or removed from it…. 2. An undertaking that your clients will deliver the Computer into the custody of Mishcon de Reya forthwith and no later than 4pm today…. 3. Mishcon de Reya hereby undertakes that until agreement or order of the court, the Computer will be held within its custody and control at all times and (a) Mishcon de Reya shall not part with possession of the Computer without agreement of the parties or the court and (b) the Computer will not be accessed, opened or interfered with in any way whatsoever until either agreement of the parties or court order.”
“In relation to the undertakings requested, we confirm that: (i) our client will deliver the Computer to this firm as soon as reasonably possible and in any event by 6pm today; and (ii) that this firm will not part possession with the Computer, or allow any party to access, open or interfere with the Computer, other than by agreement of the parties or order of the court.”
“I note that you once again have not offered undertakings nor have you confirmed whether or not the computer has been accessed a question we have been asking for some time now. Unless we receive properly enforceable undertakings and have an answer to the question we will have to ask for the court’s assistance today. … Please may I have the undertakings that I have requested so that we can avoid an application to court at 2 o’clock.”
“We have given the undertakings requested at 2 and 3 of your letter notwithstanding that your client has not established title nor the type of information allegedly on the work computer. In the circumstances, our client has behaved beyond reasonably and we simply cannot understand why an application is or was necessary.”
“As I read your email timed 11.06 you were offering promises rather than undertakings but now that you have offered undertakings then that is acceptable, subject to you answering the question as to whether the computer has been accessed in any way. We have asked this question many times now and your client has failed to address this. Please provide the confirmation.”
“Our client is under no obligation to give information to your client about what it has done, or not done, with its computer that your client used in the course of her employment only in circumstances where she cannot even begin to describe the nature of the information belonging to her that she claims is private; or to substantiate the claim to ownership (which is denied). The undertakings have been offered, for the avoidance of doubt, without any admission that your client is entitled to any relief whatsoever in respect of the computer – which it is not.”
“We are greatly concerned by your equivocal response and you’re quite wrong to suggest that your client is under no obligation to provide information as to what it has or has not done with information on the computer particularly as the only document that your have produced shows that the computer does not belong to SWP. You will appreciate that if a court subsequently determines that this computer does not belong to your clients but to [the Claimant] then if your firm or your clients have accessed it then they will be liable to both civil and criminal sanctions. It is not open to you to continue to be equivocal in these matters and we respectfully suggest that you now provide direct answers to the following direct questions. If you do not do so then we will be applying to the court for an order that your firm does so forthwith: 1. Have your clients and/or your firm in fact accessed any of the information contained on the computer? 2. If so, when and what? 3. Also if so, have any copies been made of any information contained on the computer? In any event we seek a further undertaking by return that to the extent that any copies of any nature whatsoever have been made of any information contained on the computer, all such copies will also now be returned to/kept in safe custody of your firm and that no further attempt to access the same will be made without further agreement/order of the court.”
“We refer to your previous emails and letters on this matter and suggest that before you start threatening to make further applications, in order to move this dispute forward, you provide the information requested in our letter of Friday 22 November.”
“We do not understand the stance adopted in your email because you have conceded that undertakings are necessary to reserve the position until the dispute is resolved and yet you are refusing to state whether or not the computer has been accessed. If this has taken place, and we suspect now that it has given your client’s evasive answers, then there will be little point in preserving the computer if your client is accessing all of the data on it through other means. With the greatest respect, your client’s position is wholly illogical and we consider that the Court is likely to take a dim view of your offering of the undertakings in question if the reality is that your firm/your clients are accessing the material in question already.”
“Now that we have answered your letter we expect you to answer the questions posed in our emails of today and in particular the email times 13.06. If we do not hear from you with the information we have requested by 12 noon tomorrow then we reserve the right to make an application to court.”
“… Given that you have received the undertakings as to preservation, I simply cannot understand what order you would be applying for, or what the need for urgency is which does not allow this firm proper time to respond to correspondence.”
“(1) The computer the subject of this claim be forthwith delivered up by the [Defendants’] solicitors to the [Claimant’s] solicitors to be retained by them for safekeeping pending the speedy trial provided for below. (2) All copies made by the [Defendants] of the contents of the computer similarly be forthwith delivered up to the [Claimant’s] solicitors to be retained by them for safekeeping pending the speedy trial provided for below. (3) To the extent that any such copies as have been made by the [Defendants] are in electronic form, such copies are forthwith to be permanently and irretrievably deleted. … (5) By 4pm on Friday6 December 2013 the [Defendants] are each to file and serve an affidavit setting out both the dates of and nature of any and all access which they have made/has been made on their behalf to the contents of the computer and all use that has been made by them of the same.”
“When one comes to look at the cases it seems that in all of them what happened was that the person to whom the undertaking was given sought from the court an order upon the solicitor to do the act which he had undertaken to do, that being an act which it was within his power to do – for example, the payment of money, the entering of an appearance, or the like. In one case the application was for committal, but that part of the application was stood over, the court making an immediate order on the solicitor to perform the undertaking. It therefore appears that in the exercise of this jurisdiction, what in practice has always been done is that the court, if the circumstances warrant it, makes an order upon the solicitor to do the act which he has undertaken to do. Then if the solicitor disobeys that order, no doubt an application for committal would follow and the order would be made. No case was cited in which the court made an order for committal upon direct application to commit for breach of the undertaking without having first made an order to perform the undertaking. I do not say that there is no jurisdiction to make such an order, but neither counsel was able to point to a case in which such an order had been made. There is a further difficulty that the court could not, it seems to me, make an order upon a solicitor to do an act except an act which lies in his power to do.”
“There are two guiding principles: no one should be punished under a law unless it is sufficiently clear and certain to enable him to know what conduct is forbidden before he does it; and no one should be punished for any act which was not clearly and ascertainably punishable when the act was done.”
“… what has become an important democratic principle in this country: that it is for Parliament representing the people of the country in parliament, not the executive and not the judges, to decide what conduct should be treated as lying so far outside the bounds of what is acceptable in our society as to attract criminal penalties. One would need very compelling reasons for departing from that principle.”
“(a) On22 November 2013 Mr Morallee/Mishcon de Reya whether acting on behalf of the First-Fourth Defendants or otherwise undertook to the Claimant that they would take safe-keeping of the Computer pending resolution of this dispute. He stated that: ‘On any view this obviates the need for your client to seek any relief’. (b) On25 November 2013 Mr Morallee/Mishcon de Reya whether acting on behalf of the First-Fourth Defendants or otherwise undertook that Mishcon de Reya would not part possession with the Computer, or allow any party to access, open or interfere with the Computer, other than by agreement of the parties or order of the Court.”
“… [Mishcon de Reya] will not part possession with the Computer, or allow any party to access, open or interfere with the Computer, other than by agreement of the parties or order of the court.”
“The matters to which the court may have regard include – (a) the connection between the additional claim and the claim made by the claimant against the defendant (b) whether the additional claimant is seeking substantially the same remedy which some other party is claiming from him (c) whether the additional claimant wants the court to decide any question connected with the subject-matter of the proceedings – (i) not only between existing parties but also between existing parties and a person not already a party; or (ii) against an existing party not only in a capacity in which he is already a party but also in some further capacity.” (i) not only between existing parties but also between existing parties and a person not already a party; or (ii) against an existing party not only in a capacity in which he is already a party but also in some further capacity.”