“[Announcer] Today’s programme in the studio of Andrei Kondrashov: How Berezovsky obtained political asylum [Berezovsky] If I particularly dislike someone, I’ll kill him [Kondrashov] A sensational disclosure to Newsweek from a well-informed source now under the protection of Scotland Yard. [Pyotr] When they made up their minds to take action, they obviously slipped something into my coffee. [Kondrashov] A new version of the Litvinenko poisoning, he also knew too much… [Other items in the programme] [Kondrashov] We begin with an event which is hardly the main news of the past week, but it’s quite a sensation. A new trail has emerged in the Litvinenko affair; a rather unexpected turn of events. Litvinenko may have been poisoned because he was one of two witnesses to a frame-up which helped Boris Berezovsky to obtain political asylum in Britain. The other witness is still alive, but has been afraid for some time now that he may share Litvinenko’s fate, he has requested the protection of Scotland Yard and the Prosecutor General. My colleague Andrei Medvedev managed to meet up with him in London. He told him how they tried to make him declare himself an FSB agent assigned to kill Berezovsky and how the oligarch escaped extradition as a result. This person, who is now under the protection of the British police, began talks with Berezovsky himself at the same time. Of course, Berezovsky has been interviewed by investigators this week. [Caption]: London, March 30th 2007 [Medvedev] I assume the mixture of poorly concealed irritation and fear on his face during the press conference was brought on by his interview with the investigator. He was questioned by an English policeman in the presence of a Russian colleague. The questions were sent over to Britain three months ago; they were put to Berezovsky in English and translated into Russian. The oligarch repeats his claim that Alexander Litvinenko was poisoned by Kremlin agents who want to poison him too. [Caption]: Boris Berezovsky. London, March 30th 2007 [Berezovsky] I considered it essential to meet them, as my sole aim is to find the people who killed my friend. In this case, unfortunately, it has become a personal matter. [Caption]: Archive [Medvedev] The claims about spies, murderers and poison first surfaced four years ago in London. It was actually Alexander Litvinenko who thought up this scare story to save Berezovsky from extradition. [Caption]: London, March 2003 In the Spring of 2003, the British were seriously planning to hand Berezovsky over to Russia. Apparently, it was a matter of months, even weeks. Supposedly, the oligarch was even arrested, then released, with bail set at$200,000 . The only way out was to prove that he was in mortal danger in his homeland. [Caption]: London, March 28th 2007 The man we interviewed – let’s call him “Pyotr” – is currently under State protection in two countries and agents of Scotland Yard are protecting him at the request of the Prosecutor General of Russia In 2003 he attended the court proceedings for Berezovsky’s case, as he himself was planning to apply for political asylum in Britain. On one of the days in court he met Nikita Chekulin, a friend of the disgraced oligarch at the time. Chekulin came to the next meeting with a friend who introduced himself as Sasha Litvinenko [Caption]: Pyotr, acquaintance of A.Litvinenko, now protected by Scotland Yard. London, March 28th 2007 [Pyotr] And this Sasha said to me, straight off, “We recognise you. You’re a KGB colonel. And I recognise you for sure: you were following me two days ago at Heathrow.”
“Don’t you understand that if we don’t get this confession, they’ll extradite Dubov to Russia and all of us will follow? Alexander Litvinenko rang Berezovsky and started to discuss the situation that had developed and I heard Berezovsky tell him, “Agree to all his conditions”. [Caption]: London, Great Britain [Medvedev] But he didn’t offer any conditions, he just went home. Then they started making threatening phone calls and watching his flat. In the summer of 2006, he asked the Russian and British authorities for protection. He wrote in his statement that they were trying to poison him. Three months later, Litvinenko died in strange circumstances. If Pyotr’s story is true, then it’s clear what the Prosecutor General’s investigators meant when they stated that Alexander Litvinenko was a valuable witness for the Russian courts. And it’s also clear what is behind the insistence that there’s a “Russian trail” in the investigation into the death of the former KGB officer. [Caption]: Alexander Zviagintsev, Deputy General Prosecutor, Moscow [Zviagintsev] The investigation will show what happened. But I am categorically opposed to any sort of speculation during the investigation. We could say with equal justification that the trail leads to London. It is not for nothing that our investigators are working in Britain right now. But that’s not what we are saying. As far as our investigation goes, we are being very thorough. We have several lines of inquiry. One of these is a quite sound working hypothesis. But investigation can be an unpredictable thing, so we are following all lines of inquiry very carefully. [Caption]: London, Great Britain [Medvedev] Basically, Berezovsky and everyone hiding from the law in Britain must have been very worried by this. Last week a delegation from the office of the Russian Prosecutor General visited London for the third time in six months. They consulted with colleagues from the Crown Prosecution Service, the Home Office and Scotland Yard. They established that they hold the same positions on the investigation of specific criminal cases and the execution of orders in an investigation and that the English also understand the need to change European conventions on handing over criminals and on legal assistance in criminal cases. These conventions were agreed half a century ago at the height of the Cold War and are hopelessly outdated. The result is that a criminal can now be presented as a political refugee. [Caption]: Alexander Zviagintsev, Deputy General Prosecutor, Moscow [Zviagintsev] As I have already said, we discussed a number of practical issues. In particular, we agreed to conduct a joint study in Moscow, in which members of the Crown Prosecution Service, Home Office and Scotland Yard will take part. To help combat the legalisation of criminal proceeds, we have agreed to conduct a meeting in Moscow with colleagues from other states, to which we will invite members of Scotland Yard. We sensed some interest on the part of the Home Office in signing a memorandum on collaboration between the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation and the Home Office. We signed a similar document last year with the Crown Prosecution Service. [Caption]: Great Britain, March 30th 2007 [Medvedev] In a six-hour interview, the investigator asked Berezovsky more than a hundred questions and requested more information on as many points. As Berezovsky did not answer almost half the questions, we can only speculate on which points the oligarch remained silent. The investigators have made no comment. [Caption]: Great Britain, March 30th 2007 Incidentally, British politicians announced back in January that the investigation into the Litvinenko affair was about to conclude. But it is still on-going. Evidently, not everything in this affair is clear to the English investigators and they still have an open mind as to who stands to gain from it.” (Mr Berezovsky pointed out that the first words attributed to him, at the beginning of the programme, had been uttered by him sarcastically in the course of a press conference and were not intended to be taken seriously.) [Berezovsky] If I particularly dislike someone, I’ll kill him [Kondrashov] A new version of the Litvinenko poisoning, he also knew too much… [Other items in the programme] My colleague Andrei Medvedev managed to meet up with him in London. He told him how they tried to make him declare himself an FSB agent assigned to kill Berezovsky and how the oligarch escaped extradition as a result. This person, who is now under the protection of the British police, began talks with Berezovsky himself at the same time. Of course, Berezovsky has been interviewed by investigators this week. [Caption]: London, March 30th 2007 [Medvedev] I assume the mixture of poorly concealed irritation and fear on his face during the press conference was brought on by his interview with the investigator. He was questioned by an English policeman in the presence of a Russian colleague. The questions were sent over to Britain three months ago; they were put to Berezovsky in English and translated into Russian. The oligarch repeats his claim that Alexander Litvinenko was poisoned by Kremlin agents who want to poison him too. [Caption]: Boris Berezovsky. London, March 30th 2007 [Berezovsky] I considered it essential to meet them, as my sole aim is to find the people who killed my friend. In this case, unfortunately, it has become a personal matter. [Caption]: Archive [Medvedev] The claims about spies, murderers and poison first surfaced four years ago in London. It was actually Alexander Litvinenko who thought up this scare story to save Berezovsky from extradition. [Caption]: London, March 2003 In the Spring of 2003, the British were seriously planning to hand Berezovsky over to Russia. Apparently, it was a matter of months, even weeks. Supposedly, the oligarch was even arrested, then released, with bail set at$200,000 . The only way out was to prove that he was in mortal danger in his homeland. [Caption]: London, March 28th 2007 The man we interviewed – let’s call him “Pyotr” – is currently under State protection in two countries and agents of Scotland Yard are protecting him at the request of the Prosecutor General of Russia In 2003 he attended the court proceedings for Berezovsky’s case, as he himself was planning to apply for political asylum in Britain. On one of the days in court he met Nikita Chekulin, a friend of the disgraced oligarch at the time. Chekulin came to the next meeting with a friend who introduced himself as Sasha Litvinenko Chekulin came to the next meeting with a friend who introduced himself as Sasha Litvinenko [Caption]: Pyotr, acquaintance of A.Litvinenko, now protected by Scotland Yard. London, March 28th 2007 [Pyotr] And this Sasha said to me, straight off, “We recognise you. You’re a KGB colonel. And I recognise you for sure: you were following me two days ago at Heathrow.”
“Don’t you understand that if we don’t get this confession, they’ll extradite Dubov to Russia and all of us will follow? Alexander Litvinenko rang Berezovsky and started to discuss the situation that had developed and I heard Berezovsky tell him, “Agree to all his conditions”. [Caption]: London, Great Britain [Medvedev] But he didn’t offer any conditions, he just went home. Then they started making threatening phone calls and watching his flat. In the summer of 2006, he asked the Russian and British authorities for protection. He wrote in his statement that they were trying to poison him. Three months later, Litvinenko died in strange circumstances. If Pyotr’s story is true, then it’s clear what the Prosecutor General’s investigators meant when they stated that Alexander Litvinenko was a valuable witness for the Russian courts. And it’s also clear what is behind the insistence that there’s a “Russian trail” in the investigation into the death of the former KGB officer. [Caption]: Alexander Zviagintsev, Deputy General Prosecutor, Moscow [Zviagintsev] The investigation will show what happened. But I am categorically opposed to any sort of speculation during the investigation. We could say with equal justification that the trail leads to London. It is not for nothing that our investigators are working in Britain right now. But that’s not what we are saying. As far as our investigation goes, we are being very thorough. We have several lines of inquiry. One of these is a quite sound working hypothesis. But investigation can be an unpredictable thing, so we are following all lines of inquiry very carefully. [Caption]: London, Great Britain [Medvedev] Basically, Berezovsky and everyone hiding from the law in Britain must have been very worried by this. Last week a delegation from the office of the Russian Prosecutor General visited London for the third time in six months. They consulted with colleagues from the Crown Prosecution Service, the Home Office and Scotland Yard. They established that they hold the same positions on the investigation of specific criminal cases and the execution of orders in an investigation and that the English also understand the need to change European conventions on handing over criminals and on legal assistance in criminal cases. These conventions were agreed half a century ago at the height of the Cold War and are hopelessly outdated. The result is that a criminal can now be presented as a political refugee. [Caption]: Alexander Zviagintsev, Deputy General Prosecutor, Moscow [Zviagintsev] As I have already said, we discussed a number of practical issues. In particular, we agreed to conduct a joint study in Moscow, in which members of the Crown Prosecution Service, Home Office and Scotland Yard will take part. To help combat the legalisation of criminal proceeds, we have agreed to conduct a meeting in Moscow with colleagues from other states, to which we will invite members of Scotland Yard. We sensed some interest on the part of the Home Office in signing a memorandum on collaboration between the Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation and the Home Office. We signed a similar document last year with the Crown Prosecution Service. [Caption]: Great Britain, March 30th 2007 [Caption]: Great Britain, March 30th 2007 Incidentally, British politicians announced back in January that the investigation into the Litvinenko affair was about to conclude. But it is still on-going. Evidently, not everything in this affair is clear to the English investigators and they still have an open mind as to who stands to gain from it.”
“12. … On19 March 2008 (within a matter of days of the proceedings being served, following considerable delay, upon the First Defendant), a resolution was issued by the Russian prosecutor and notified to Mr Berezovsky’s representatives in Russia which accused him of “false denunciation about a serious crime linked to the artificial creation of prosecution evidence”
“1. An article was published in the Sunday Times on 21st September which purported to expose a plot to assassinate the billionaire dissident Boris BEREZOVSKY (Attached as Appendix A). The article stated that an agent of the SVR / KGB who had been tasked to assassinate him at Bow Street Magistrates Court by stabbing him with a poisoned pen, had lost his nerve and informed Mr BEREZOVSKY of the plot. Police subsequently interviewed the alleged assassin who completely denied his involvement. 2. Vladimir TERLYUK (dob 04/10/51) is a former KGB officer who arrived in the UK on15th Feb 1999 and claimed political asylum. … He states he is not currently working. His asylum application is still pending and TERLYUK is currently involving his local … and the Refugee Legal Centre … on … in attempting to speed up his application. 3. TERLYUK stated that shortly after he arrived in the UK he had been walking near the park in Camden Town when he had first become aware of two men talking Russian nearby. He went over to the men and began to talk to them. One of these men, who he subsequently developed a relationship with he knew as Mr SMIRNOFF (ph). TERLYUK stated that SMIRNOFF told him that he worked for the Russian Trade Delegation and he supplied him with his telephone contact number there. 4. Their relationship developed over time and one day SMIRNOFF introduced the subject of the review of the extradition of BEREZOVSKY. From previous conversations it was clear to TERLYUK that SMIRNOFF had an extremely low opinion of BEREZOVSKY. The two men arranged to attend the next hearing but SMIRNOFF called TERLYUK the day before to say that he had another commitment and would not be able to attend. 5. They met again after the hearing and TERLYUK stated that SMIRNOFF asked lots of questions in minute detail about what went on at the hearing. He asked about the layout of the building, BEREZOVSKY’S security detail, the general security and how members of the public were shown in and out. TERLYUK attended a total of three hearings, always alone, SMIRNOFF phoning to make his apologies at the last moment. 6. After the last of the three attendances SMIRNOFF was asking about how people were searched when they entered, if they used metal detectors, if they checked inside folders and if they examined pens. It was at this point that Mr TERLYUK claimed that he became very uncomfortable with what was going on and was worried that he was going to be set up as a fall guy for some form of conspiracy. 7. TERLYUK then contacted one of the security officers at BEREZOVSKY’S next court hearing and told him what had happened. He stated that the story in the Sunday Times was not what he had told them and that it had been substantially ‘twisted and spun’ by the newspaper. He stated that he had never been tasked or asked to carry out an assassination, that although he was a former Russian Intelligence Officer post 1991 he had had no contact with the Intelligence services and that he was not in the employment of the Russian Trade Delegation (KGB). 8. TERLYUK stated that he realised that SMIRNOFF worked for the Russian Security Services and that he was being used by him but he still attended the first three hearings as he was genuinely interested in the BEREZOVSKY case. He denied that he was receiving any form of payment for attending these court hearings. 9. TERLYUK stated that the legal team for Mr BEREZOVSKY had subsequently badgered him for a statement, which would be used to bolster BEREZOVSKY’S asylum application. They offered him legal help with his asylum application in return. TERLYUK stated that he had refused to do this and had consulted his own asylum lawyers who had told him that there was nothing more that could be done to speed up his claim. 10. TERLYUK subsequently re-contacted this Branch on Friday 21st November to say that he was being followed by a surveillance team when he went out shopping. Officers subsequently met TERLYUK on Monday 24th November to obtain further details. … Should TERLYUK be subject to surveillance again he has been briefed to call 999 so that a member of the surveillance team can be stopped and spoken to. 11. Mr BEREZOVSKY is a multimillionaire who has a very large security entourage and a substantial reputation in the Russian community for paying for information / intelligence and has very strong motivation for uncovering plots to assassinate him as this will assist his efforts to avoid extradition. BEREZOVSKY currently has indefinite leave to remain in the UK but has not been granted citizenship. 12. Mr TERLYUK is a former KGB/FSB and is a very sharp minded and intelligent man. He has stated that he accepted taskings from the Russian Security Service and he has passed this information on to BEREZOVSKY’S team. He denies taking any payment for any of this but does not work and lives in a well-appointed semi-detached house … … ”
“ … [Terluk] confessed that one of his lady friends advised him to try and find some approach to Berezovsky … Maybe you also could get something”
“During the dinner, [Mr Terluk] told us quite freely his life story and information about his life in London. What he said made me think that [Mr Terluk] had connections with the KGB, or at least that he wanted it to appear to us as if he had such connections. [He] said that he came from a family of political convicts and that his grandfather and the whole of his family had been sent to the labour camp at Magadan. [He] told us he had been born there and that after Stalin’s death, [his] family were not allowed to go back to where they had come from and instead were sent to Kazakhstan. [Mr Terluk] also told us that he was then employed in the Administrative Office of the Council of Ministers (the government) and the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Kazakhstan. I was aware that this office was very important and was responsible for everything that could be needed by top Party officials including things like apartments, transport, telephones, aeroplanes, train tickets, medical treatment, books and theatre in Kazakhstan. Whatever there was a shortage of in the Soviet Union, this office had access to it because it provided these things to Government Ministers. For this reason, it was not a job given to just anybody from the street and I was aware that in order to get such a job, you needed someone high in authority and clearance from the KGB to help you get there. For someone with [Mr Terluk’s] family history, it would be absolutely impossible to get KGB clearance unless he was already employed by them. In my experience, people in these sorts of positions were members of the KGB.”
“I was not surprised that a person who was in the United Kingdom seeking political asylum in respect of Russia had nonetheless been recruited by the Russian Embassy. From my knowledge and experience this is not a surprising tactic because such a person is a perfect choice in terms of deniability (that is to say, if anything goes wrong with a particular operation, the Embassy can deny having anything to do with the individual and his activities).”
“In the Soviet times Vladimir worked in the Protocol Department of the Council of Ministers, and worked covertly for the KGB with a codename and secret ID number. His work for the KGB lasted for well over a decade. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, his relationship with the KGB stopped and he went into private business. In the course of his business activity he ran into trouble with some powerful interests and had to flee from imminent arrest. He arrived in the UK some years ago and applied for asylum. His wife and children were with him and he had no close relatives in Russia. By the time of our conversations, his asylum application was still pending and there had been no interview or word from the Home Office. About six months into his stay in London, he met with a Russian diplomat; he could not say whether this meeting was accidental or deliberate. In a conversation he gave the diplomat his name. After a while, the diplomat contacted Vladimir. When they met again, the diplomat gave him his codename and secret ID number and asked him to work for ‘his motherland’ or else the Russians would see to it that he goes back home. However, if he co-operated, they would help him with asylum through their own people at the Home Office. Over three years he has done ‘many assignments’ for his handlers, for which he was paid. His last assignment was to attend all Berezovsky and Zakayev events. He confirmed that he stood close to me in an elevator at the Russian Economic Forum, as I was leaving the building after Berezovsky, and I clashed with Russian spokesmen at the session on Press Freedom. He said that his assignment was to study approaches to Mr Berezovsky’s person, to see whether he was shielded from physical contact with well-wishers by his security detail, to have a general plan of the courthouse, particularly the toilets, etc. From his description of this activity, it appeared that he had some training of this kind of operation. He essentially confirmed what I heard from Alexander Litvinenko about the ballpens and the cigarettes.”
“What questions in reality have you been asked in the first, second and third meetings?”