“... We sell specific items from design, modern design kind of thing and post- war items. If someone comes to my shop and offers me, for instance, a Lambretta, a Lambretta's something that's got a value, right? I might look at the bike, I might buy the bike, but I don't buy it for the business because I can't sell it through the shop. It's not what I do. Q. Do you buy it to ride it? A. I might buy it to ride it, but also I might buy it and sell it probably on to someone else.”
“… The majority of our customers are our clients are well known professional people as well as other dealers, based in Islington and across London. … 4. I have been in this industry for some 25 years and accordingly have a wide circle of contacts who contact me on a periodic basis in respect of any goods which they think that I will be interested in. On24 June 2002 , Jason Dobkin, who trades as “Oak Tree Trading” and is based in Harrow came to my shop in Holloway Road with three paintings for me to look at. He told me that he had picked them up at some clearance sale. I have done business with Jason over a period of over 15 years, and have bought things from him in the past. I told him I would be interested in buying the paintings myself rather than through the shop, and although he was asking the sum of£2,000 for all three, I managed to get him down to£1,500 , which I paid in cash. 5. Originally I thought I would keep the paintings for myself, as I do not tend to deal with paintings at my shop and accordingly could have difficulty selling them, certainly for their true value. After I did some research on the artist after I purchased, I discovered that Mr Souza was quite well known and accordingly the paintings were probably worth more than I had originally thought. Accordingly, I took them along to Bonhams auctioneers….”
“About ten were stolen from my warehouse including … “Portuguese Sailor”, “Chalice”, … and five which I recovered from Bonhams after striking a deal with the consignors who had bought it from a Jason Dobson…..”
“On 9 Jan Mr Mario [Demetriou] became very interested in knowing from me the specifications of paintings that were lost from my Souza collection and which had not yet been recovered. I told him of the two ie the “Portuguese Navigator” and “Chalice and Host” and he asked me repeatedly to supply images of those works. I did not want to but told him they were reported to the Art Loss Register and he said he would try to get the images from the Register”
“I might know myself”
“I was particularly interested in these paintings, as I had a client who had asked me to see if I could find him some work by this artist … This came as no great surprise as there had recently been quite a bit of publicity surrounding Souza, … This publicity took the form of many articles in the Antiques Trade Gazette …”
“At the time I did not focus upon the card that I paid with”
“10/1/06 SOLD TWO PAINTINGS OIL ON BOARD SOUZA 53/61 PRICE£25,000 £10,000 PAID£7,500 BY 10/2/06£7,500 BY 10/3/06”
“I do have a receipt for these items, as does the person I bought them from, how far back we can go with that I unfortunately do not know, as asking another dealer for his source is not something one does, other than to ask if had obtained them legitimately”
“The reason I didn’t seek any further proof of these paintings provenance before buying them was your reply that there wasn’t a problem with title, when I first called you and your assertion that you had a client ‘very interested’ in buying them made me even more sure that I would go ahead with the purchase. Had I known from the beginning that there was a question mark over ownership, I would certainly have thought twice about going through with it. As I have said before, in normal trading it is, quite obviously, not the done thing to ask another dealer where he bought something, as there are many less ethical dealers who would bypass him next time and go directly to his source, indeed I would not disclose my sources to another dealer for exactly that reason…”
“… I do remember seeing pictures. One was a man with a beard. There were also pictures of settings of various items on furniture. None of the pictures were of interest to me”
“When she described an ugly man and a vase of flowers I remembered them distinctly. I saw them once. I did not particularly want to see them again”