‘The identification of what is or is not expert evidence is difficult to formulate. I think that in most cases one knows expert evidence when one sees it but to try and formulate an overall test would I think be an impossibility.’
‘He explains in general terms the value of that licence and discusses the impact of unauthorised goods. I think this is relevant evidence. I do not think it is expert evidence within Part 35 at all. It is basically factual trade evidence.’ iii). At [47] Ms Perez was identified as the main witness for the claimant. The high point of the objection related to [81]-[83] where ‘effectively Ms. Perez articulates the claimant's case why the T-shirt in this case is said to create a misrepresentation that it is authorised and why the claimant is concerned about it. I think this is natural evidence for the claimant to give. It is not expert evidence. It is difficult to see how this case could be articulated otherwise.’ iv). Amongst the defendants’ evidence was a statement of 46 paragraphs from Ms Sauvaire, the head of marketing at TopShop. She explained her experience in the trade and described the marketing at TopShop. Attention was focussed on this sentence in her paragraph 44: "It is my experience that consumers expect a more overt level of marketing communication before they will assume a connection between a celebrity and a brand." v). Birss J. took the view: ‘In saying that, she is referring to what she says is the marketing communication given by the T-shirt in question in this case. I think this is natural evidence for someone in her position to give in a trademark case. The court, as I say, is not necessarily familiar with the shopping habits of teenage girls. The defendants did not seek permission under Rule 35. I think they were right not to do so. To say that this sentence turns the entire evidence given by Ms. Sauvaire, which runs to some 46 paragraphs, into expert evidence seems to me to be wrong, and to impose the expert evidence regime as a result would be a sledgehammer to crack a nut. In my judgment, it is outsideCPR 35 .’ vi). Finally, there was the evidence of Mr Chatalos, who was the source of the t-shirt at issue: ‘He describes his business and the application of images to T-shirts. In my judgment, this is useful evidence too, just like the trade evidence from the claimants. It is not expert evidence either, and I will admit it.’
“83. In my experience, the fact that the image that was used on the unauthorised t-shirt was taken on the occasion of a video shoot, and a well known one too, rather than when [Rihanna] was not working or at an event, means that fans are particularly likely to think that the image came from promotional material for that album, single or video. In this case the official booklet for the Talk That Talk alum contains professional images of Rihanna. Included in those images are shots from the We Found Love video shoot. They show Rihanna with the same hairstyle and headscarf that she was wearing in the shot used for the Topshop t-shirt ... [Topshop’s] actions were therefore likely to lead fans to think the t-shirt was authorised, particularly as it was sold under the mark RIHANNA TANK ...” “94. … Arcadia’s unauthorised t-shirts bear an image of Ms Fenty in the distinctive clothing, hair and makeup of the authorised music video I have described above, thereby implying that this t-shirt is authorised and indeed part of that official authorised and approved promotion. Thus the sale of these shirts infringes her rights and is likely to deceive the fan and customer base. The typical potential shopper is likely to come from the younger age groups who listen to her music and perhaps follow her through social media. They may or may not be able to go to her concerts but they rely on the reputation of the place where they shop.”
‘In these circumstances it is not necessary and I do not believe it would be appropriate to embark upon a consideration of whether and to what extent evidence of trade practice, trade usage, consumer behaviour and consumer perception constitute expert evidence to which the provisions ofs.2(3) of the Civil Evidence Act 1972 andCPR Part 35.4 apply.’
‘3 Admissibility of expert opinion and certain expressions of non-expert opinion. (1) Subject to any rules of court made in pursuance of this Act, where a person is called as a witness in any civil proceedings, his opinion on any relevant matter on which he is qualified to give expert evidence shall be admissible in evidence. (2) It is hereby declared that where a person is called as a witness in any civil proceedings, a statement of opinion by him on any relevant matter on which he is not qualified to give expert evidence, if made as a way of conveying relevant facts personally perceived by him, is admissible as evidence of what he perceived. (3) In this section “relevant matter” includes an issue in the proceedings in question.’
‘(a) In Section A below, I explain a bit more about my role within CAA-GBG and what I do for RCBPC’s accounts in various Latin American territories. (b) In Section B below, I set out what the markets within each of the Latin American territories, that I am told are the subject of these proceedings (namely Panama, Chile, Peru and Mexico (“the LatAm Territories”)), look like in relation to polo themed brands, i.e. approximately how many polo themed brands there are, how they generally present in the market and my perception of who are the largest players. This is not intended to be an exhaustive market wide report of the polo brands that exist in these territories but is rather based on my knowledge of the market. (c) In Section C below, I confirm that I am not aware of any issues with the public in any of the LatAm Territories not being able to distinguish the products of the various polo themed brands. (d) In Section D below, I make some concluding comments drawing what I consider to be the key points arising from Sections A to C of this witness statement.’
‘15. I believe that a large part of the attraction of the RCBPC brand to licensees in Mexico is that they know that it is authentic, i.e. that it is a real English polo club, and they know that the brand will be popular with consumers for the reasons set out at paragraph 17 below. 16 …Within DD Document 105 are some photographs of how RCBPC’s products might typically appear in the Tenth Defendant’s stores in Mexico. … 17. Generally, in my experience polo brands and other brands with similar looks (like nautical brands and tennis brands) together with American and British brands are very popular with consumers in the LatAm Territories because they relate to activities of the wealthy. Taking polo, for example, the public is aware that it is a sport played by the rich, famous and royalty. The looks projected by brands linked to polo and some nautical and tennis brands generally have a preppy look that has appeal to a wide range of consumers because clothing associated with these activities has an aspirational image in consumers’ minds which makes it popular. 18. I do not consider that there is any difficulty with Latin American consumers, even those that are purely Spanish speaking, identifying the difference between polo brands that contain English words. I would estimate that at least 80% of the Latin American fashion market is in brands that contain English words. Even the private labels in the main retailers are in English.’
‘The key point arising from the document referred to above at Exhibit FGC3 in relation to these proceedings, which is entirely consistent with my own knowledge of the market, is that there are very many polo logos internationally and many of these are used in relation to clothing either globally or in specific territories. This is a crowded market both globally and in the LatAm Territories and these brands co-exist with each other well without consumer confusion.’
‘Like the position internationally and generally set out at paragraphs 19 to 21 above, there are many polo themed brands on the markets in the LatAm Territories, the largest of which is Ralph Lauren. Of the LatAm Territories, Mexico has the largest number of polo themed brands as can be seen from the table at paragraph 23 below and the remainder of this Section C [sc. B] which is a combination of my own research and that of the First to Fourth Defendants’ solicitors and which accords entirely with my understanding of the markets in the LatAm Territories.’
‘5 (a) In Section A below, I set out some background information about RCBPC, my role within RCBPC and its merchandising activities overseas including its instruction of licensing agents, formerly the Fourth Defendant and currently a leading brand management agency, CAA-GBG. I also describe RCBPC’s use of its trade marks to date in the UK. (b) In Section B below, I set out the background of the LE’s dispute with RCBPC both generally and then, in particular, in relation to each of the territories that are the subject of these proceedings together with an explanation of my understanding of the trade mark position with regards RCBPC’s trade marks in each of those territories. (c) In Section C below, I explain in detail how I have managed the overseas merchandising activity of RCBPC and how and when I report to the directors of RCBPC on those issues in response to LE’s allegations of joint liability of the First to Third Defendants set out at paragraphs 42 to 46 of the Amended Particulars of Claim and the First to Third Defendants’ response to those allegations at paragraphs 17 to 20 of the Amended Defence and Counterclaim of the First, Second and Third Defendants. (d) In Section D below, I confirm that there has never been any intention on the part of RCBPC or its directors to harm LE’s business or brand. This is a normal situation where each party’s brands are, to some degree, in competition with each other – there is not a more sinister intention on the part of RCBPC or its directors, as LE appear to suggest at paragraphs 106 to 110 of the Amended Particulars of Claim under the heading “Conspiracy to Injure by Unlawful Means”, to develop its brand in a way that causes financial loss or damage to LE. (e) In Section E below, I set out that I have not received any reports of confusion on the part of any consumers, retailers, buyers or licensees between the LE’s brand and RCBPC’s brand, either directly or via its licensing agents. I set out my limited knowledge of the other brands in the markets of the various territories and coexistence agreements that exist between RCBPC and third parties and between LE and third parties. (f) In Section F below, I make some concluding comments drawing what I consider to be the key points arising from Sections A to E of this witness statement.’