“very happy with Zodiac refund of£435,000 ”
“an average of at least ten hours a week personally engaged in activities carried on for the purposes of the trade.”
“Please supply a full description of your activities as a member of the partnership, and supply whatever documentary record exists of the time spent by you on these activities. If you have kept any notes or any form of diary or time record, please let me see these.”
“I am in the process of collating the information that you require but due to other commitments, it is unlikely that I can get this information to you before31 October 2009 .”
“I enclose schedules which detail my activity as a member of the partnership.”
“I am obliged for the printouts designed to show the activities you have carried out on behalf of the partnership. These appear to have been produced in a single run. Who prepared these schedules? Please let me see the underlying or prime records from which these records were prepared. Who was responsible for compiling the underlying records?” (6) Mr Walsh’s reply dated24 March 2010 (again drafted by Mr Potter) included the following: “I recorded my activity in a format provided to me by the designated members of the LLP.”
“All records and supporting material supporting the printed record of activity previously supplied. A copy of the log in electronic format.”
“Elspeth Mundy, Kimberley Murphy, Terence Sefton Potter, Neil WilliamsDenton, Vincent James Walsh, Jason Edinburgh, Rodney Alan Sherrington, Assad Amin, Michael Elsom and Kimberley Murphy between the1st January 2007 and8th February 2012 with intent to defraud, and to the prejudice of Her Majesty the Queen and her Commissioners of Revenue and Customs (The Commissioners), conspired together and with Sean Foley and other persons to cheat Her Majesty the Queen and The Commissioners of public revenue, namely monies, by falsely claiming as due to the Members of Edinburgh and Walsh LLP in consequence of their being active partners in that entity and so entitled to make such claim, uncapped sideways loss relief upon losses sustained or purportedly sustained by the partnership, such cheat being pursued by means of the Members own personal tax returns and thereafter in representations to HMRC made by the Members and on behalf of the Members.”
“HMRC officials last week searched RBS’s London offices as part of the investigation, though the allegations of criminal behaviour are not linked in any way to the men’s work for the taxpayer-backed bank.”
“Dear SirSection 28B(4) Taxes Management Act 1970 I am writing to let you know that I have now completed my enquiries into The Zodiac Film Company (No 1) LLP return for the four years ended5 April 2007 . As a result of my enquiries I amended the partnership returns and I will be amending your own returns/claims to reflect this. The amendments Your returns/claims will be amended as follows: 2004 2005 2006 2007 Share of loss before enquiry£709576 £36474 £34725 £23733 My amendment results in a decrease of loss£701388 £1088 £1083 £273 Amended share of partnership loss is£8188 £35386 £33642 £23460 Yours faithfully [etc]”
“Despite the primacy which our trial system has long given to oral evidence, it is by now a commonplace that the memory even of witnesses who are doing their honest best is often unreliable (see Gestmin SGPS SA v Credit Suisse (UK) Ltd [2013] EWHC (Comm) at [15]-[23] per Leggatt J); and in cases of fraud when the credibility of witnesses is in issue, it has long been recognised to be essential to test their veracity by reference to the objective facts proved independently of their testimony, in particular by reference to the documents in the case, and also to pay particular regard to their motives and to the overall probabilities (The Ocean Frost [1985] 1 Ll Rep 1, 57 per Robert Goff LJ).”
“the best approach for a judge to adopt … is … to place little if any reliance at all on witnesses’ recollections of what was said in meetings and conversations, and to base factual findings on inferences drawn from the documentary evidence and known or probable facts.”
“9. Mr Williams-Denton further informed the Claimant of one such partnership (The Zodiac Film Company (No. 1) LLP) which he said had been vetted by the Defendant had and had “passed” the Defendant’s “robust compliance checks” and into which he advised the Claimant to invest. He further advised and represented to the Claimant that an investment into the said scheme would be an effective and low-risk tax mitigation strategy and/or investment. 10. Further, at various times thereafter, Mr Williams-Denton advised and recommended that the Claimant should invest in further film schemes on the basis set out above and advised and represented to the Claimant that an investment into such schemes would be an effective and low-risk tax mitigation strategy and/or investment.”
“Q. People have spoken about win, win. A.Yes. Q. So, the possibility of profit down stream and of offsetting the cost. A. That is how it was sold to me. Win, win”
“A. …all the schemes were sold to me as a win/win situation.”
“Things ever more bizarre by the day as this refers to a letter sent before the one they were chasing up two weeks ago. HELP”
“VW did not think that he had been that specific. The administrator might have been on the call. He could not remember the specifics of what happened in 2007. Someone from the partnership could easily have been on the call and noted the times. He could not recall whether it had been a conference call or not.”
“…the Defendant (by Mr Williams-Denton acting within the course and scope of his authority on behalf of the Defendant) breached the duties that it owed to the Claimant: … iii. by failing to carry out appropriate “due diligence” investigations into the Original Schemes (as to which paragraph 13(ii) above is repeated herein) and/or the E&W LLP and/or by advising the Claimant that robust due diligence checks had been carried out.”
“The need for extensive pleadings including particulars should be reduced by the requirement that witness statements are now exchanged. In the majority of proceedings identification of the documents upon which a party relies, together with copies of that party's witness statements, will make the detail of the nature of the case the other side has to meet obvious. This reduces the need for particulars in order to avoid being taken by surprise. This does not mean that pleadings are now superfluous. Pleadings are still required to mark out the parameters of the case that is being advanced by each party. In particular they are still critical to identify the issues and the extent of the dispute between the parties. What is important is that the pleadings should make clear the general nature of the case of the pleader.”
“[Excessive particulars] can obscure the issues rather than providing clarification. In addition, after disclosure and the exchange of witness statements, pleadings frequently become of historic interest only.”
“26. Accordingly the allegations which underpin the alleged due diligence breach are whether in the case of the (or any of the) various film schemes identified: 26.1 the “…film or films…” had “…already been produced…” 26.2 the monies invested were “…not in fact used (or intended to be used) to produce such films…”; and 26.3 the monies were “…misappropriated with the concurrence of Mr Potter…””
“I understand that it is alleged that Greystone should have carried out investigations which would have made us aware of this and, as a result, we would have concluded that these were not ‘bona fide’ film schemes but were some form of fraudulent schemes perpetrated by Terry Potter.”
“…to carry out appropriate “due diligence” investigations into the Original Schemes (as to which paragraph 13(ii) above is repeated herein)…”
“The court may allow an amendment whose effect will be to add or substitute a new claim, but only if the new claim arises out of the same facts or substantially the same facts as a claim in respect of which the party applying for permission has already claimed in the proceedings.”
“Except as provided by section 33 of this Act or by rules of court, neither the High Court nor the county court shall allow a new claim within subsection 1(b) above, other than an original set-off or counterclaim, to be made in the course of any action after the expiry of any time limit under this Act which would affect a new action to enforce that claim…”
“Where it is the same duty and same breach, new or different loss will not be [a] new cause of action. But where it is a different duty or a different breach, then it is likely to be a new cause of action.”
“In a professional negligence claim, although an amendment raising a new cause of allegation of breach of duty may amount to raising a new cause of action, an amendment which merely raises a new head of loss or damage can never amount to that. However, once the limitation period has expired, the court should be astute not to permit claimants to raise new heads of loss or damage as a stepping stone from which to allege new breaches of duty.”
“cases in which it is not necessary to apply any professional expertise because the mistake was glaring or obvious.”
“I have recommended a Film Partnership Scheme as you wish to mitigate your personal Income Tax liability and you have confirmed that you have had significant earnings and paid significant tax in the past 3 tax years.”
“A Film Partnership will provide personal Income tax mitigation more than any other investment.”
“are likely to be international co-productions with very good commercial prospects.”
“Potential benefit from film revenues and other associated income streams.”
“I must also point out that investing within the film industry is considered a highly speculative investment. It cannot be guaranteed that a film financed by the partnership will generate any gross or net receipts (in excess of pre-sale commitments and other guarantees) and any investment in it must therefore be seen as speculative.”
“The usual way for an individual to benefit from this tax concession is participating in a film partnership.”
“Tax relief of 40% i.e.£400,000 is obtained under S48 of the ICTA which is the Revenues own rules in June 2004.”
“The availability of all these tax reliefs is dependent entirely on the Inland Revenue accepting that the tax position of the Partnerships and Members is as set out in this Business Plan. If a tax payment is deferred on the basis that a loss is understood to have arisen from the Partnerships, a Member may suffer interest/penalties if the loss proves not to be available.”
“All estimates in this Business Plan are drafted on the basis that the Inland Revenue treats the Partnerships as trading on a commercial basis with a view to profit… It cannot be guaranteed that the Inland Revenue will treat the activities of the Partnerships as … trading on a commercial basis with a view to profit.”
“Recommended maximum Film Partnership Investment of£249,400 gross with a net investment of£150,380 .” 174. The figure of£249,400 is exactly 20% of£1,247,000 , which is the sum of the figures given for Mr Walsh’s income to be sheltered for 2001/02 and 2003/04, and is therefore in fact itself a net figure; the figure of£150,380 is unexplained and may just be an error, as a summary later in the filenote indicates that Mr Walsh required cash of£249,400 for film investment. The filenote ends with a list of Action Points as follows: “1. GB – send income details etc to Jonathan at Aquarius films to prepare Business Plan and Subscription documents. 2. TC – draft film and VCT recommendation as above. 3. Neil to sort next meeting and planning.” 175. The reference to Jonathan was to Jonathan Steinberg, a Commercial Director at Aquarius. TC and GB were 2 Greystone employees, TC being Tracey Conway who was a senior paraplanner. (3). On25 November 2004 Mr Williams-Denton sent an e-mail to Mr Walsh. He said they were led to believe that there might well be an Inland Revenue announcement to address tax avoidance schemes shortly involving limited recourse loans, and that since they could not implement legislation retrospectively: “this may be our last chance.”
“This will produce a refund of£478,848 and a surplus of£229.448 . This is our last opportunity with all the risks managed/mitigated.”
“Paperwork completed and TT instruction signed, confidential letter signed, sophisticated investor letter signed and risk warning signed – GB to process.”
“a 100% tax deduction in respect of the qualifying expenditure in the first year (expected to be 96%), which is available for investment in British Qualifying Films” and again: “Tax relief of 40% (for higher rate income) would then be granted to the member and would be based upon the minimum qualifying expenditure in the first year. It is estimated that this amount will be 96%.”
“This relief is claimed under S48 of the ICTA under Revenue rules – this is not a loophole.”
“There is no mechanism for the Inland Revenue to give formal approval to the scheme but we have no reason to believe that the scheme will, in any way, be challenged by the Inland Revenue. As far as we are aware investors in previous Aquarius schemes have been receiving their tax refunds as a matter of routine and we do not know of any problems in this regard.”
“Yes my understanding is that there is nothing in their current plans which will affect the schemes we have in existence now. They are still aiming to close down the “rogue” schemes which avoid tax altogether, but we are in the safe zone.”
“I recommend that you read the Business Plan in full, prior to investment, as it is the only source of information on which you should rely on making your decision to invest.”
“Please read the associated Risks carefully, as described in the attached Business Plan, on pages 23 and 24 [pages 20 to 24 in the 10/11/12 letter]. It is important that you read and accept these prior to making a decision to proceed with this investment.”
“Jason and Vinny’s partnership will be opened to new members – Assad, Sean and Rodney. A maximum of 5 members will support 10 hours work per week for each member for a minimum of 6 months.”
“the scheme was a bona fide film partnership scheme and that it was intended to produce the Film [Mercedes the Movie] using the members’ investments.”
“2% of the gross investment (£900,000 @ 2% =£18,000 )” (5) The subscription documents signed by Mr Walsh on29 March 2007 contained no application for a loan and no reference to a loan. This can be contrasted with the subscription documents signed by Mr Walsh on27 September 2005 in relation to Aquarius 10, 11 and 12, which did include loan documentation (paragraph 165(2) above); those loans were to be taken out by Mr Walsh personally “to fund in whole or in part the Borrower’s initial capital contribution to the Partnership” (and certain interest payments). (6) In an internal e-mail of3 April 2007 , copied to Mr Walsh’s accountant Ms Whitehouse, Mr Williams-Denton referred to Mr Walsh investing: “60% of the monies required by the partnership (total of£1.5 million with 80% full recourse loans)”
“Your net capital commitment is£180,000 , with the balance from Partnership borrowings.”
“You and Jason will be contributing the whole of the capital of the Partnership which will be used to finance the development of one or more film projects. Loans would be available if required from a financial institution of up to 82% of the amounts of capital subscribed. These loans would be secured solely on investors interests in the capital of AFD but would need to be on a full recourse basis.”
“For every£1,000,000 made available to the Partnership and to pay expenses, the Member’s personal cash contribution would be£200,000 . Of this the balance of£800,000 may come from a Loan to the Partnership from the lender.”
“Did Hyde, Edinburgh and Walsh and Amin have to have loans for those investments? Because I have not had any cert of interest paid.”
“an average of at least ten hours a week personally engaged in activities carried on for the purposes of the trade.” (ss. 118ZH(1) ICTA 1988, re-enacted with effect from6 April 2007 in s. 103B(2) ITA 2007). By s. 61(1) FA 2008, s. 103B(2) ITA 2007 was amended in relation to relevant periods ending on or after12 March 2008 . As so amended the 10-hour requirement was that the partner spent: “an average of at least ten hours a week personally engaged in activities of the trade and those activities are carried on (a) on a commercial basis, and (b) with a view to the realisation of profits as a result of the activities.”
“by purporting to show that E&W LLP had accrued losses in its trading life of£4,005,043 , whereas the genuine losses were lower and such cheat was facilitated by the movement of monies between bank accounts and the preparation of business records and financial statements and tax returns for the entity which misrepresented the position and in consequence of the entity being fiscally transparent it made those losses available for the Members of the LLP to claim as their own losses and to set against their income tax liabilities.”
“The financial statements and tax returns report substantial losses which are consistent with heavy expenditure involved in film production where the income is not expected until some time in the future.”
“The members of … the E&W LLP would not be eligible for uncapped sideways loss relief in respect of amounts that they invested because (a) there was no genuine intention to produce the films using such funds, and (b) the relevant partnership would not therefore be engaged in activities for which the tax relief was intended.”
“between1 January 2007 and8 February 2012 with intent to defraud and to the prejudice of Her Majesty the Queen and her Commissioners of Revenue and Customs (The Commissioners), conspired together with Terence Sefton Potter, Rodney Alan Sherrington and Sean Foley to cheat Her Majesty the Queen and The Commissioners of public revenue, namely monies, by falsely claiming as due to the Members of Edinburgh and Walsh LLP in consequence of their being active partners in that entity and so entitled to make such claim, uncapped sideways loss relief upon losses sustained or purportedly sustained by the partnership, such cheat being pursued by means of the Members own personal tax returns and thereafter in representations to HMRC made by the Members and on behalf of the Members.”
“between the1st January 2007 and8th February 2012 with intent to defraud, and to the prejudice of Her Majesty the Queen and her Commissioners of Revenue and Customs (The Commissioners), conspired together and with other persons to cheat Her Majesty the Queen and The Commissionersof public revenue, namely monies, falsely claimed as due to the Members of Jenkins and Hyde and Maclellan LLP in consequence of their being active partners in that entity and so entitled to claim uncapped sideways loss relief upon losses sustained or purportedly sustained by the partnership, such cheat being pursued by means of the members own personal tax returns and thereafter in representations to HMRC made by the Members and on behalf of the Members.” (5) That leaves Counts 1 and 2, to which Mr Potter pleaded guilty. I do not know precisely what these were, but one of them was no doubt the conspiracy charge in relation to inflated losses in E&W, the terms of which, as admitted on the pleadings, I have already set out (paragraph 202 above). It seems likely that the other one was a similar count, possibly in relation to JHM, as HHJ Beddoe treats the two together, referring, by reference to both counts, to Mr Potter conspiring in the creation of sets of accounts and the underlying support for the figures in them: “by a carefully orchestrated, contrived, and fictitious merry-go-round of money and false accounting.”
“I’m quite sure that by early 2007 the Crown is right in asserting that a dishonest relationship existed between the two of you, with you, Mr Potter, on the one hand, creating schemes for you on the other, Mr Williams-Denton, to sell to your high net worth clients, so that you could each benefit financially in the ways identified by the Crown, and those investors essentially could get sideways loss tax relief, to which you two both, at least, knew that they would not be entitled. Whatever those clients may have initially thought or believed they were getting into, and whether or not they did or did not believe that they would be entitled to such relief, I have no doubt that neither of you envisaged that they would do anything which would properly qualify them for such relief. It was never the intention by you, Mr Potter, properly to involve them, in any meaningful sense, in your film projects, as you, I conclude, Mr Williams-Denton, knew well. A rather obvious endorsement of this point, it seems to me, is that for the period 2007 to 2008, the first year of the existence of the Edinburgh Walsh LLP, there was not one project to which that LLP was even superficially attached. So how you could be the ignorant conduit of figures for losses upon which Mr Edinburgh and Mr Walsh made claims for tax rebates, for that period up to the of the financial year March 2008, and for the preceding year, defeats me. … In dealing with you, it’s important that I make clear that I put aside the suggestion that between you you misled investors as to the interpretation of what the new active partner requirements were in both 2007 and in 2008… It is enough to say that I am sure you both knew that those requirements would not be met by those to whom you sold the product, and that you did not envisage that, at any time, they would make any practical contribution to the film projects [with] which you, Mr Potter, were otherwise concerned.”
“The suggestion, moreover, by Mr Henley [counsel for Mr Williams-Denton], in his submissions that I should only conclude that you became dishonestly involved when the diaries had been produced, after formal inquiries by HMRC had begun in 2009, sits ill not only of course with your own case, as I queried, but with the first of the dishonest payments, just by way of example, that passed between you and Mr Potter in 2008. As I’ve said, by 2007, in fact, I’m sure that both of you were engaged dishonestly, and both of you had every reason to expect tha[t] any LLP Mr Potter created for you, Mr Williams-Denton, to sell, and upon which your investors might claim tax relief, [would be the] subject of inquiry, as all of Potter’s schemes had been, to date. And together, the two of you were readily prepared, if necessary, to feed your investors the material which might be required to mislead HMRC into accepting that their individual claims to active contribution were genuine. And so it happened. When the hint of a problem arose, you were asking Mr Potter what he could do to help… In due course the diaries were created. They were a complete fiction, intended by you both – and you were very much a party to their creation, Mr Williams-Denton, being sent indeed the first iterations of them, no doubt for your consideration and approval… They were intended by you both to deceive HMRC, whether those through whom they were submitted to HMRC were aware of their true nature or not… … So, in concert the two of you fostered and encouraged the advancement of lies to HMRC, not only through the tax returns of investors, which each of you knew they would submit, but also in the raft of false material which from 2009 through to 2012 you, Mr Potter, were creating and which you, Mr Williams-Denton, were encouraging those investors to submit, whatever they specifically knew about it… Mr Williams-Denton, you are not charged on Counts 1 and 2, and [I] obviously do not take any of the evidence in relation to Mr Potter’s involvement with those particular counts into account when I come to consider sentencing your case. But I make it clear that I do not accept, for the reasons I’ve already given, that you did not know, however they were actually created, that those figures were a nonsense as far as the entitlement of the investors to make claims based upon [them] were concerned, whatever the investors’ own state of knowledge might have been. The more I have seen of you both over these last months, the more I have become convinced that you are both deeply dishonest individuals… … Mr Williams-Denton, your culpability is high, but I accept that it does not rank as high as that of Mr Potter. Somewhat below it. But it is obviously well above that of any of those investors found to have been complicit in what was going on. You were the seller of the product, and a knowing seller of a false product. And once an inquiry began you were, as the Crown rightly say, the dishonest hub for the continuance of the claims for tax relief, and for the submission of false responses, coordinating them, with the assistance of Mr Potter, who decided what responses individual investors should be asked to make to HMRC.”
“(1) In any civil proceedings the fact that a person has been convicted of an offence by or before any court in the United Kingdom or of a service offence (anywhere) shall (subject to subsection (3) below) be admissible in evidence for the purpose of proving, where to do so is relevant to any issue in those proceedings, that he committed that offence, whether he was so convicted upon a plea of guilty or otherwise and whether or not he is a party to the civil proceedings; but no conviction other than a subsisting one shall be admissible in evidence by virtue of this section. (2) In any civil proceedings in which by virtue of this section a person is proved to have been convicted of an offence by or before any court in the United Kingdom or of a service offence– (a) he shall be taken to have committed that offence unless the contrary is proved; and (b) without prejudice to the reception of any other admissible evidence for the purpose of identifying the facts on which the conviction was based, the contents of any document which is admissible as evidence of the conviction, and the contents of the information, complaint, indictment or charge-sheet on which the person in question was convicted, shall be admissible in evidence for that purpose.” by or before any court in the United Kingdom or of a service offence (anywhere) shall (subject to subsection (3) below) be admissible in evidence for the purpose of proving, where to do so is relevant to any issue in those proceedings, that he committed that offence, whether he was so convicted upon a plea of guilty or otherwise and whether or not he is a party to the civil proceedings; but no conviction other than a subsisting one shall be admissible in evidence by virtue of this section. (a) he shall be taken to have committed that offence unless the contrary is proved; and (b) without prejudice to the reception of any other admissible evidence for the purpose of identifying the facts on which the conviction was based, the contents of any document which is admissible as evidence of the conviction, and the contents of the information, complaint, indictment or charge-sheet on which the person in question was convicted, shall be admissible in evidence for that purpose.”
“Even if one or other of them had done 10 hours on average engaged in the activities of the trade, and that is not accepted, they had no evidence that would have satisfied HMRC. They had not done it and they all knew that and sought to cheat HMRC by passing the diaries off as proof.”
“The trial judge must decide the case for himself on the evidence that he receives, and in the light of the submissions on that evidence made to him. To admit evidence of the findings of fact of another person, however distinguished, and however thorough and competent his examination of the issues may have been, risks the decision being made, at least in part, on evidence other than that which the trial judge has heard…”
“General Point 12 – we must make it clear and have documentary evidence that the partners must be active in the partnership. Otherwise, there relief is limited to the amount that they subscribe.”
“Point 12 confirms that a non-active member’s loss claim for the current and preceding tax years will be limited to the amount he or she has subscribed to the partnership.”
“Investors in film partnerships are generally passive partners, with no active involvement in running the partnership trade. We have heard of some schemes being promoted on the premise that partners will be able to get around these restrictions by spending 10 hours each week reviewing videos or films, or similar pastimes. This is not actively and personally carrying on the trade.”
“spend around five hours per week whilst on RBS premises in relation to work for E&W and that that might have been attending ad hoc meetings during the day or meetings after the market closed.”
“The nature and extent of your involvement in the activities of E&W and the fact that your E&W work appears to have been completed by you during the working day and on RBS premises.”
“Is it just bad luck that I have not got the rebate from the Walsh/Edinburgh as I know Jason received it?”
“We were waiting. We were ready to feed up any stuff we had found from him. I do not think Mr Potter treated us very well here, because once he got us signed up, we were history, in my opinion. There were a couple of meetings since then, so Mr Potter did not really seek our input. We were ready for it, ready to give him observations about actors and actresses and other DVDs and TV programmes. We were certainly ready to feed that information up. However, Mr Potter and Mr Williams-Denton I do not think asked us once.”
“this whole thing really stinks now…..”
“Put yourself in our position, we have invested post tax£500,000 , and have grave concerns regarding the investment and find we come second fiddle to a film crew in Swansea”
“1. Supporting paperwork 2. Provision of fund for tax consulting”
“a full description of your activities as a member of the partnership” and: “whatever documentary record exists of the time spent by you on these activities. If you have kept notes or any form of diary or time record, please let me see these”
“You have of course already had your refund in respect of the 2008 losses, and so their letter is effectively putting you on notice that you need to refund any tax which may be found owing at the end of the enquiry. This you will already have appreciated and I think your refund slipped through their net! HMRC will now correspond with Terry Potter to finalise matters.”
“My concern is that the refund for 2008 which was repaid to you when it should have been withheld may be used to refuse the refund at this point.”
“Q. You knew there was no information to collate; you had no records? A.No, I did not … I did not know it to be contemporaneous. I could have collated information about the activities I did. Q. About your 200 films? A. Yes. Q. Someone was going to create a list of the films you --- A. There could have been, as I thought this would be, I thought the activity reports or diaries or whatever, as now the activity plan, that could have been a generic list of activities performed. I did not realise until I got to the police station that this was a ludicrous breakdown of hour and hour, minute and minute.” 281. This is revealing for a number of reasons: (1) I do not accept that Mr Walsh ever expected there to be a list of the films he had watched. He was never asked for such a list, he never created such a list and he would no doubt have found it difficult to do with any accuracy. In any event I find that he knew that a list of films would not suffice because he knew from the BIM meeting that watching films was not good enough. This is something that he has thought of in the witness box, not something that he has recalled. (2) Mr Walsh says here, as he does elsewhere, that it was only when he was arrested that he saw the diaries for the first time. I will have to consider this question in due course, but for the present will assume that is true. But what is interesting is that the reason he says they are ludicrous is because they purport to record the members’ activities to the nearest minute. That is indeed one of the more ludicrous falsities in the diaries. (3) What he does not say here is that he did not think Mr Potter was drawing up a list of his activities at all. Instead what he says he expected is that there would be a “generic list of activities performed.”
“As discussed with Neil, please find attached the document which I understand you know what you are doing with!”
“As promised I have attached my working diary and activities for for the Mercedes project.”
“We recommend that you review your diary and check that it is accurate. If you are happy with your diary then please send it to HMRC or let us know if there are any discrepancies and we will update accordingly.”
“5. In general, dates of meetings while I was on holiday (out of the UK)…….is that something they can easily prove (ie do they have access to immigration records etc)?”
“Finally spoke to Neil … Put the question to him of what happens if I don’t put diary thru and hes only concern was ‘why would you do that’. Have asked him for definitive list of repurcusions/outcomes if I do/don’t sign up. Said he will get back to me, but to be honest by the tone of the conversation and his standard it will be o.k I am sorely tempted to tear it all up and brewd for the next year about it….”
“Kim sent to each of you your activity planners and other documentation over a week ago. Can I please ask you all to ensure that you check your Activity Planner asap – especially for times/dates when you were on Holiday or out of the Country on Business. Can you please advise Kim as a matter of priority where dates need to be amended as these planners need to be 100% correct and an average of 10 hours per week achieved?”
“I think I passed details of my holiday dates to Neil; I always took the first two weeks in August as leave plus a few days here and there throughout the year.”
“Because if there was going to be some sort of production about activities, there would be – even though I thought week one would say “Watch a film, watch ten films read a book and do this”, there would be week four whereby my activities would say nothing.”
“Discuss the activity reports and enquiry letters from HMRC.”
“With regards to the ‘chaser’ letter you received from HMRC about the LLP Enquiry, I have attached a letter to this email in response. Could you please print it off, sign it and return it to me asap as I have the supporting documents here (too large to send to you) which will need to be sent with the letter.”
“I recorded my activity in a format provided to me by the designated members of the LLP.”
“All are getting worried.”
“we need to action as a mater of priority. What is the strategy?”
“Came in last week, didn’t speak to me tho… guess he realises he wont be getting another penny from me… nuts and bolts tho apparently Terry still convinced all is in order (he was a Cannes film festival last week) and will be sending responses off this week. Vinny having spoke to Neil is still of the opinion all will be fine!”
“If you had all been in the partnership premises every day working side by side, I could have seen a more casual approach being possible, but for this partnership, with this membership, the failure to record what you discussed seems highly unusual.”
“Just a suggestion regarding question five, is it worth noting to the HMRC that the majority of partners did actually sit together side by side during the day (see the question), thereby negating his concerns in question five?”
“1. I should point out that I worked in the same building as my fellow members of the LLP, and so many meetings, discussions and communications took place on an informal and impromptu basis… 5. I can confirm that I did work in the same premises as the other members every day, working side by side and so I assume you can now accept the approach that we all took to our involvement in the LLP’s business.”
“Actually just read it………it took weeks to write that? If that is the effort that Terry puts into those questions, either, 1) He is way smarter than anyone I have ever met, and it will all fall into place, or 2) We are fucked.”
“As ever seems sooo lacksydaisical about the whole thing….”
“Did you and your partners seek permission from your employer to devote your time on these days to the business of the LLP?”
“Everyone seems to be at different stages in the process and it feels like with the wording in the HMRC letters we need to try a little harder to resolve this.”
“that would be good as they would present to the commissioners with the finished product and diaries and detail that you all work together…”
“I confirm that I did seek permission from my employer to devote time to the trade of the LLP and such permission was granted. We regularly used the facilities of our employer including meeting rooms…”
“Looks to me that he has no idea of how to end this and the worry would be that he just puts his size 12 boots on and just says NOOOOO !!!!!”
“but the only real task I can undertake on this is to nag on your behalf!”
“If you decide that the attached is acceptable to you can I suggest you sign it and pass it to Neil…”
“1. …I did from time to time make hard copy notes on odd pieces of paper of the time I devoted to the LLP’s trade, but I did not retain such paper once the information has been entered into the computer. 2. The records were maintained on Microsoft Word.”
“a) *[I did get permission from my employer but this was in a verbal form. If you wish to obtain confirmation of this please contact …….] b) *[I enclose a copy of a letter from my employer confirming permission.]”
“We should be clear that not all meetings were held here, just the odd one.” (4) Mr Potter (who was copied in) asked if they could quote exactly what Mr Amin said. But Mr Sherrington pointed out that the problem with that was that the next question would be where most of the meetings took place, to which he did not think they had an answer. He added: “If we want the planning to be successful, we are going to have to stick to the story that our meetings were held at work, were we all (bar one of us) sit close together, on a ad hoc basis, and regularly after work hours. No permission was required as it did not interfere with our work, and we were all senior enough (ie self monitored) not to need permission for such activities.”
“I think going down this route opens us to the question of running a business at work, for which there would be further questions (and we did not do)….” (6) Mr Sherrington then suggested a telephone call, saying: “We are in a pship, and if the partners go in different directions with answers, we should not be surprised to see the planning fail for all partners.” (7) The call took place on5 January 2011 . Mr Sherrington followed it up with an e-mail saying he had looked back at previous answers, and quoted the undated letter he had sent after the meeting with Mr Potter (paragraph 308 above) where he had said that he did have the employer’s permission. He therefore suggested that an answer be given that there was no evidence of his having sought permission: “as it was a verbal discussion with the now redundant ex head of equities.” (8) Mr Foley replied the same day: “Havnt spoken to Assad yet but Vin and Jason agree with what you say at the bottom mate, believe they have been trying to get a hold of Terry so maybe hold fire for today.” (9) Mr Potter was still on holiday and suggested they speak when he got back on 10 January. On 11 January he sent a draft: this had Mr Sherrington saying that the only person he would have needed to seek permission from was Mr Amin. But on 12 January Mr Amin said he had made it clear he did not want his name used, and would reply to that effect in his response. (10) Mr Sherrington therefore proposed that they stick with what he had written the previous week (referring to a verbal discussion with the ex head of equities). Mr Amin was happy with that, and although Mr Potter tried to get them to use his draft, the letter eventually sent (dated12 January 2011 ) read as follows: “Permission was given in a verbal discussion with the now redundant ex head of equities. Although, I should emphasise that in my opinion I did not need the permission of my Employer to carry on the trading activities of the LLP.”
“Terry brought in a memory stick which he said contained electronic copies of our activity records.”