“Fundamentally, NOVP and Invideous are unrelated businesses, the only link being that I have a shareholding in Invideous. Invideous is focused exclusively on paywall and only has this capability. The NOVP business has no paywall capability but is the team of developers who have built Showcase and [who] have front end capabilities to deliver on the Showcase (and of course NOVP) roadmaps moving forwards”
“I can't remember if I mentioned previously that with the various funding rounds I've done with Invideous I've ended up very much in a minority shareholding situation. This is largely irrelevant but as a backgrounder: The NOVP business is a different company which started as a side project along with my main tech guy (Igor; we own the business together, 60/40). The NOVP business has around 10 employees all paid for and working on current business wins. The initial rationale for establishing NOVP separately was that I plan to take the Invideous business back into my own majority ownership (and to do this need to raise money) and also that I needed a fall back plan for the point when I couldn't take any more of my Invideous shareholders driving the business the wrong way(!). I made a bad choice of investor as they don't know the space, don't get on with each other, and push through initiatives that aren't in Invideous' best interests. Anyway, as I mention above this is irrelevant as at some point I'll get Invideous back, but as a side project it did give rise to NOVP! As you'll have noticed, I'm pretty passionate about NOVP and with good reason: I think it's a business and concept that has exceptional potential. I've done a deal with Technicolor that is yielding revenues already in the form of build fees but also we get various license fees with each new customer they sign. Added to this, every Technicolor user is ultimately a NOVP user so we'll quickly gain a solid user base (of industry experts to boot).”
“As the litigation has progressed, rather than accept the truth of matters and move on when the facts have shown that the Claimants have no case, Mr Granatino has tried to bake a new ‘truth’. Forged in the flames of his anger however, the lies which have come out of his rage do not stand up and his arguments break to pieces the moment they are used. The Claimants in general trip over their lies, Mr Granatino in particular falls over his own fabrications and his hosepipe of fiction leaves a slippery surface that Mr Goffin skids on too. … this litigation has become a hole that Mr Gratatino has just kept digging. He has thrown shovelfuls of mud and in the end these have sunk his own position.”
“Given you are back on Fri and I am due to have the meeting with you and Dan at 11.00 it’s important we make time to have a serious off-piste conversation on Invideous. Now with a bit of insight from inside the tent IMO [in my opinion] Nicolas’s role as acting CEO/micromanager may end having a catastrophic result long term. There is no business without Jack and he is close to breaking point with the way Nicolas is involving himself day to day, especially the last couple of months. Appreciate the importance of joint effort to focus on delivery and push to break-even and I do not yet think I have the answer as to how best to structure it, but something needs to be addressed before Jack, despite his principles and responsibilities has had enough and walks away.”
“(4) The mere fact that activities are described by an employee as 'preparatory' to competition does not mean that they are legitimate (per Moses L.J. in HelmetIntegrated Systems v. Tunnard[2007] IRLR 126 at paragraph [28]). (5) It is a breach of the duty of fidelity for an employee to recruit or solicit another employee to act in competition (see British Midland Tool v Midland International Tooling Ltd[2003] 2 BCLC 523 ). (6) Attempts by senior employees to solicit more junior staff constitutes particularly serious misconduct (Sybron Corp v. Rochem Ltd[1984] Ch 112 ). (7) It is a breach of the duty of fidelity for an employee to misuse confidential information belonging to his employer (see Faccenda Chicken Ltd v Fowler[1987] Ch 117 ). (8) The court should ask whether the activities in which the employee is engaged affect his ability to serve his employer faithfully and honestly and to the best of his abilities (see Shepherds Investments Ltd v. Walters[2007] IRLR 110 at paragraph [131]).”
“I’ve opened the service agreement document now (was on my phone earlier) and it still says Swiffen on it… (Copy attached FYI). So as not to open that can of worms, if okay with you I’ll change the reference to Swiffen to Invideous and then send the document to Jonathan. We should probably do a signature copy in the name of Invideous Ltd when I’m back in the office as I don’t think we ever updated it”
“Hi Jonathan, Please find attached a soft copy of my service contract. …”
“10 Time and attention 10.1 During the continuance of his employment under this agreement the Director shall unless prevented by incapacity devote his whole time and attention to the business of the Company and shall not without the prior written consent of the Board: 10.1 engage in any other business or 10.2 be concerned or interested in any other business of a similar nature to or competitive with that carried on by the Company or any of its Subsidiaries or Associated Companies or which is a supplier or customer of the Company or of its Subsidiaries or Associated Companies in relation to its goods or services, PROVIDED that nothing in this clause shall preclude the Director from holding or being otherwise interested in any shares or other securities of any company which are for the time being quoted on any recognised stock exchange so long as the interest of the Director in such shares or other securities does not extend to more than 1% of the total amount of such shares or securities.”
“2.1 The Group will carry on the business of developing and licensing video monetisation technology to content owners and publishers to enable them to secure revenue from paywalls and/or hotspot advertising and other activities described in paragraph 2 (headed Business Development Strategy) of the document entitled “BOARD PACK”: September 2011” and dated 22/09/11, a copy of which is included in the Disclosed Documents. 2.2 The Business shall be carried on in accordance with the Business Plan and the Annual Budget.”
“Business Plan means the business plan from time to time of the Group, being the initial business plan to be considered and approved by the Board at the first meeting of the Board following Completion and as may subsequently be approved as a Reserved Matter.”
“8. Covenants relating to the Business 8.1 The [First Claimant] shall, and the Shareholders shall procure (so far as they are able to do so as shareholders and (as appropriate) Directors (subject to their statutory and fiduciary duties as Directors)) that the [First and Second Claimants], shall: (a) carry on and conduct [their] business on a commercial basis in a proper, lawful and efficient manner for [their] own benefit …”
“18 Restrictive covenants 18.1 Each of the Existing Shareholders (the Covenantor) covenants to the Company that he shall not (unless otherwise agreed in writing by the Company), any time when he is a Shareholder and for a period of one year after he ceases to be a Shareholder: (a) carry on or be employed, engaged, concerned or interested in any territory in which the Group carries on business at the time he ceases to be a Shareholder in any business which would be in competition with any part of the Business (and including the activities described in paragraph 2 (headed Business Development Strategy) of the document entitled “Board Pack: September 2011” and dated 22/09/11, a copy of which is included in the Disclosed Documents; or (b) in connection with a business which is in competition with any part of the Business in, offer employment to, enter into a contract for the services of, or attempt to solicit or seek to entice away from any Group Company, any individual who is at the time of the offer (or who was at any time in the previous 12 months), employed by the Group Company in a managerial, supervisory, sales or technical capacity or facilitate the making of any such offer or attempt by any other person. 18.2 The undertakings in this Clause 18 are given by each Covenantor to the Company and apply to actions carried out by the Covenantor in any capacity and whether directly or indirectly, on her/his own behalf, on behalf of any other person or jointly with any other person. 18.3 Nothing in this Clause prevents the Covenantor: … (b) from holding for investment purposes only any units of any authorised unit trust; or (c) from holding for investment purposes only not more than 3% of any class of shares or securities of any company trade on the London Stock Exchange or on AIM. 18.4 Each of the covenants in this Clause 18 is considered fair and reasonable by the Parties. If any such restriction shall be found to be unenforceable but would be valid if any part of it were deleted or the period or area of application reduced, the restriction shall apply with such modifications as may be necessary to make it valid and effective.”
“… information obtained or received by a Party as a result of negotiating, entering into or performing… ”
“In my view it means that the reasonable man looking at the relevant facts and circumstances of the particular case would think there was a real sensible possibility of conflict; not that you could imagine some situation arising which might, in some conceivable possibility in events not contemplated as real sensible possibilities by any reasonable person, result in a conflict”
“Whether the company could or would have taken that opportunity, had it been made aware of it, is not to the point: the existence of the opportunity was information which it was relevant for the company to know, and it follows that the appellants were under a duty to communicate it to the company.”
“54 In my judgment, this was obviously a case in which, once that opportunity arose, the respondents could not properly make use of the information they had so obtained in deciding to take up the opportunity for their own benefit. That was because they had obtained the information in the course of acting as directors of the company; and the opportunity also came to them in such course. As I shall explain, I consider that the opportunity led the respondents straight into a breach of 'no conflict' rule. But quite apart from this, it was one that they ought obviously to have made known to the company. In practice, that meant that they needed to discuss it with [the other director]. If the company was not interested in taking up the opportunity, its members could consent to its being taken up by the respondents personally. As the respondents did not offer the opportunity to the company, but took it up personally, they engaged in a transaction that rendered them liable to account under the 'no profit' rule. 55. The authorities relating to trustees' and directors' duties to account for profit earned in consequence of a breach of the 'no profit' rule are legion, they all appear to me to point to the same conclusion and none appears to qualify the liability to account by reference to whether the impugned transaction was (in the case of an alleged breach by a director) within or without the scope of the company's business. … the rationale of the 'no conflict' and 'no profit' rules is to underpin the fiduciary's duty of undivided loyalty to his beneficiary. If an opportunity comes to him in his capacity as a fiduciary, his principal is entitled to know about it. The director cannot be left to make the decision as to whether he is allowed to help himself to its benefit.”
“the business plan from time to time of the Group, being the initial business plan to be considered and approved by the Board at the first meeting of the Board following completion and as may subsequently be approved as a Reserved Matter.”
“ … outline the commercial and technical foci of the business, where resources and money will be allocated, and where revenues will come from.”
“We must focus on the ease of integration with a publisher’s server-side and with their client devices and ensure that we offer a core of modules that applications (both owned and third party) can plug into. That, to all intents, is the technical mission statement.”
“Commercially, the app platform will be monetised through usage fees, advertising and revenue shares. Where a programmer develops an app as a third party we will (probably after a bit of a grace period) levy a fee for use of the API (i.e. the more popular the app, the greater the cost of running it) and also a revenue share on the apps that contain a transaction aspect.”
“It is the best of breed in its space and the focus we have on ‘platform’ will allow us to bring it to more environments at a lower effective cost (as the integration work needed will be spread over the other apps too).”
“1.3.3. Invideous Player as OVP Many of our prospective payments clients come to us without an incumbent OVP in place. Whilst we have had a basic OVP platform ourselves that utilises AWS services to provide a service, such a product has never been core to our business. With the development of our new player technology, we will again offer it as a video platform to publishers. We will however take significant measures to present this product alongside links to our OVPs so as not to jeopardise referrals from these partners. Where they offer reseller arrangements, we may also partake in these”
“the wheels fell off it, because having come up with this business plan, Mr Granatino – as I said, he was new to venture investing, I think, and he was ringing me up every day, meeting me at least once a week – perhaps not three times a week as John [Doyle] says but at least once a week – and also he was coming up with ideas that, by dint of his effective majority control of the business, we just had to do. I didn’t get to say: “Well, no, we’re not going to do that because it’s ridiculous,” we had to do it. So the Causio idea was one of those. So that was building an entire website, a video aggregation website from scratch, which hosted charity videos. That’s not in this business plan but that’s one of the rabbits, as John Doyle describes, that Mr Granatino had me chasing. So the fact that this business plan wasn’t followed rigorously and to the letter certainly wasn’t entirely my doing. ”
“it was really just pursuit of Invideous’ core business, which was the pay per view side of things. Now, we did have some deviations from that. The Causio website, for example, which was an aggregation of charity videos on a website, but the idea and I guess the relevance was that it was easy to adapt Invideous’ pay per view technology to, rather than be you have to pay£5 to watch this video, it’s you could donate£5 whilst you are watching this Oxfam charity video, for example. So it was decisions like that which were taken, but really none of those strayed hugely far from Invideous’ two core businesses at that point really, which was the Hotspot side of things and the paywall side of things. Really pursuit of the Hotspot side and the paywall side, with these little deviations into Causio and the like, was what Invideous did for the majority of 2012.”
“Invideous has created a proprietary video delivery application to enable broadcasters to publish content on various connected TV and mobile platforms (Application). The Application can be customised by Invideous, giving the “look and feel” of the broadcaster and then released and maintained by Invideous. Reseller requires a licence to use not less than 20 Applications pursuant to this Agreement, such Applications to be sub-licensed to clients of the Reseller in accordance with the terms and conditions contained herein”
“NOVP.com is operated by a team of interactive and online video veterans. Drawing on commercial and technical knowledge acquired over many years NOVP combines the requirements of professional operators who need to deliver a high quality video experience but with super-scalability and low cost. Whilst much of the team’s prior focus has been on video monetisation, the NOVP thrust of reducing video cost supplements this. A penny saved is a penny earned, as the adage goes”
“For now you need to treat it totally separate from the Invideous project; I don’t want any cross-dependencies”
“NOVP takes your video from multiple sources (video you might have on your PC, video on your iPhone; video you have on old style OVP; video on a server) and makes that content available on any other device connected to the user’s account; via an embeddable players shared with others on devices both inside and outside of the NOVP ecosystem”
“The main idea behind the original NOVP proposition is that as a consumer I might have lots of videos that I watch, perhaps something on my PC or whatever, and the idea was that I might want to share that video with my friends but also to watch that video, to have on my PC, but watch it on my iPhone or whatever. That was the original proposition for NOVP. It’s never actually been sold, it’s never had any customers paying or otherwise because we never actually built any of this. We tended to get side-tracked by the Technicolor Showcase.”
“There are a lot of changes from NOVP as imagined 2-3 months ago as we’ve learned a lot from the tech in the interim. This needs to be a consumer focused product first with B2B applications as a secondary. There are some cross-overs with what we’re currently doing elsewhere but I’d like [the employee] to regard this as utterly distinct please…”
“… offline video functionality to Invideous publishers across a range of different platforms. Providing both offline rentals and download to own in a secure DRM’d environment, IN Player lets you bring significant chargeable convenience to your audience”
“This is a wrestling website, not something upon which lives depend. Any client who has a modicum of internal organisation and understanding can work with a Monday to Friday regime. If they are sufficiently diva-ish not to be accepting of this then there are bigger questions to ask.”
“Hi Igor, Fyi. This (few emails below from Nicolas) is the sort of stupidity that I’m having to deal with. Forget weekend working – it will never, ever become a requirement – but I send you this as an example of what you and I need to work hard to extricate ourselves from. My sentiment will be the same as yours I think”
“Hi Jack This is unbelievable. I can’t believe what I am reading. I have experience with this kind of clients, but really didn’t see this coming in Invideous. One thing I must admit is that you are handling this as a real champ. Huge respect for that. One thing that I can tell from these emails is that these guys really do not understand the software development process. I mean I really do not expect them to know, but please ask them if the production of Mini Morris cars will dramatically increase if there is plus one guy hired and dedicated in the factory. I will say even 10 or 50. There is a process to follow if we want to have great products and thats it. Period. The sentiment is shared and I really support you on this. Let’s hurry up with NOVP. ;) Talk with you tomorrow as you asked/said. Unbelievable. They want to buy everything with money”
“We have got a really interesting opportunity to explore a complex control panel come video portal for Technicolor. The premise behind the product is that it will allow their (Technicolor’s) clients to showcase content to trade customers. For example, let’s say BBC Worldwide is Technicolor’s client and they want to make Top Gear available to potential buyers at NBC in the US. This platform will be used by BBC Worldwide to create an account for NBC so that they can see all of the content that they (BBC W) want to make available for NBC to potentially buy. As a layer above this, Technicolor want to have a full library of all their participating client’s content which is made available to any potential purchasers, for example (should they select this option) BBC Worldwide’s content would be in the library, as would ITV’s, as would any other content rights owner. A bit like the NOVP library product but for B2B rather than B & C2C. Technicolor have a meeting with BBC Worldwide - a very likely client - on Monday and as such have asked us to put something together for this meeting. This is prior to a more full presentation to be made to the heads of Technicolor UK on 16th July. This document will evolve from a ‘required for Monday’ to a ‘required for three weeks time’ to hopefully a ‘required because we’ve won the business’ description.”
“I think that this NOVP thing for TC is getting much bigger Igor; they’re chatting about it taking over a further massive part of their systems in the longer term. If we can get the TC deal done – and I think we’re very nearly there in terms of commercials now – and if we can get the Nexeven / [Unicorn Media] done then I think that’s a£100k commitment minimum over the next 6 months and NOVP built (and potentially earning / giving us satisfaction) into the deal. Let me know if you have a good time to chat on the phone soon as lots to discuss :) If okay with you, might be good for us to switch to @novp.com email addresses at some point for these emails”
“Here is the invoice which we would like to pay to Invideous / NOVP ASAP for the work they have already achieve[d] for us”
“This Phase 3 build will make Showcase a complete service chain within which a variety of mission critical process, which translate into reduced costs and time, can be completed. ... The portal is a high quality, scalable and efficient service that makes your valuable assets more accessible to customers. … Technicolor Showcase will be accessible through a variety of devices. A common user experience will be developed across the desktop, table and smaller form factor implementations ensuing that switching from one device to another is inconsequential and the users can enjoy the familiarity of the portal across all devices”
“The Group also discussed funding. It was reported and understood that, notwithstanding an expected inflow of sales revenues, the business will essentially be insolvent within four to six weeks. It is intended to seek additional, third-party investment in the medium-term but there is a clear requirement for short-term, bridging funding. Mike Wells and David Goffin stated that they will not be investing further into the Company at this stage. David Goffin also recorded his concern that his position as a Director of the Company is compromised by the likelihood that the business will shortly be trading in an insolvent position in the absence of an injection of funds. Nicolas Granatino reported that additional interim funding could be available from his side but this will be conditional on (1) the terms of such investment and (2) the implementation of certain reforms and restructures in the way the Company operates. These pre-conditions were not specified at the time.”
“As a consequence, operations in Belarus and Bitola will be closed down. Jack will also assess and re-appraise the resource requirement in Skopje in the light of the above decisions”
“Hi Nicolas, I will keep working through the warranties document but [I] don’t want to base the main agreement document on your one as too much has changed, it is too weighted more exclusively in your favour and it effectively means that David & Mike and Igor & I are having to go back if not to square one, then not far from there in terms of working though it again. The company doesn’t have time for these further rounds of revisions. I know that many of the changes are minor, but of the indicated 230+ changes in the document a lot are specifically now in the interests of and referring to Pierre. I know we all have a duty to create an agreement document that is in our respective interests, but to circulate this one at the eleventh hour after we’d discussed what we thought was the last draft before a final version only four days beforehand seems like the wrong time to be making such a significant set of changes. For the sake of reaching consensus, are you prepared to move forwards on the basis of the agreement document that we discussed on Thursday 7th with the round of changes circulated and sent to Lisa on the back of that or are you requiring that we now work on the version as amended by your lawyer?”
‘Personally I think that his greed is in danger of getting him something of nothing; one twist of the screw too many’
“As you remarked, we’d previously had a largely constructive meeting, discussing in good faith the document that Lisa produced and had got to a point of consensus. Nicolas effectively ripped that up and said “Here’s the version I want: you’d better accept it”
“Another important point for you in this situation is that Jack Thorogood is the owner and manager of another new company in Macedonia. The company name is NOVP DOO. …”
“[I didn’t] pull out until Monday morning of the following week, which I believe is the 25th. There was quite a lot of agonising to do about that decision. I’d started Invideous … well, ultimately what became Invideous in November 2008. This had been a, you know, fairly epic four-year journey, so yes, it wasn’t a decision which I came to easily.”
“James Whitebread knew that I was CEO of Invideous; he was introduced to me at Invideous, however all of the documents prior to this one you’ve just shown me here with regard to B2B portal were NOVP documents. Yes, there was some confusion around it, yes in this particular document and this slide isn’t obviously one that I had any hand in preparing; James seems to have said Invideous rather than NOVP but he is talking about a range of different products here and admittedly in this proposal, you know, the first half of it are products which clearly were to do with Invideous. Now, when the contracts were sorted out obviously any misunderstanding and confusion was tidied up but, yeah, I think that’s really all you can read into this.”
“Q. And obviously, in making that approach you are again making use of the client contact that you have developed with Sound Tribe Live whilst at Invideous aren't you? A. Well, no, and you might have to correct me if I am wrong but I still struggle to get my head around the assertion that anybody I meet at Invideous is somehow a client contact of Invideous's so I can understand if I was proposing here something for Sound Tribe Live that either Invideous could have done, had done, did do, that then that would be making inappropriate use of a client contact. However, because I happened to be conversing with Sound Tribe Live about a number of things, the fact that something emerged from those conversations which was something that Invideous didn't do, hasn't done, had therefore no intention of doing, I don't really see too much of a problem with offering him an entirely distinct service from something he could ever get from Invideous and it's the same with SPI in terms of sending the two different proposals. Invideous's business was the pay per view piece, which was entirely complementary to this proposal, which is the OVP piece.”
“One thing which is important – and this is the point of view that I considered – is that once you provide an end-to-end service to a customer, whether you provide the brick yourself, you develop the brick yourself, or whether it’s a third party brick, you are providing this service to the customer and the customer does not even know whether you are on Unicorn Media or whether it’s your own stuff. So for me it’s exactly the same. So yes, for me, Invideous was providing CMS services and OVP services.”
“be restrained henceforth and until further order from carrying on or being employed, engaged, concerned or interested in any territory in which the First and Second Claimants carry on business in any business that is in competition with any part of the First and Second Claimants’ business, including (without limitation) by being employed, engaged, concerned, or interested in the business of NOVP Doo-Skopje”
“be restrained henceforth and until further order from carrying on or being employed, engaged, concerned or interested in any territory in which the First and/or Second Claimants carry on business, any business that is in competition with any part of the First and/or Second Claimants’ business, including (without limitation) by being employed, engaged, concerned, or interested in the business of the Second Defendant (insofar as that business competes with the First and/or Second Claimants)”
“(15) For the avoidance of doubt, for the purposes of this Order, a business (including the Second, Fourth and/or Fifth Defendants’ businesses) will be in competition with the First and/or Second Claimants if it involves the provision to clients of online video platforms and/or online video platform services, including, in the context of provision of such platforms and/or services, online pay-per-view, online advertising software, monetization solutions, online storage, transcoding, embeddable players, bandwidth, custom app creation, 3rd party OVP integrations, API or multi-channel publishing. (16) For the further avoidance of doubt, anything that the Defendants are prohibited from doing by this Order, they are prohibited from doing directly or indirectly, whether by themselves or through another. (17) Yet further, the First Defendant must immediately take all reasonable steps within his power that are necessary to ensure that the Second, Third, Fourth and Fifth Defendants comply with the terms of this Order.”
“MISS STOUT: You have described Showcase to the court as being an OVP. You did not stop providing Showcase to Technicolor after 28th March, did you? A. Yes, we did. We weren’t providing Showcase to Technicolor. Technicolor had Showcase. So it was on their servers, their servers paid for by them, so we couldn’t exactly not provide them with it any longer because it wasn’t ours to provide to them any longer. It was on servers owned or controlled by them using bandwidth and storage and whatever owned and controlled by them, so there was nothing we could stop doing that effectively would have had that impact of not providing Showcase to them because at that point we weren’t providing Showcase to them. Q. You were still providing services related to Showcase to them. A. No. It depends what you call services. We were providing staff to work on it at their behest on a day by day basis, and that’s fundamentally it. Q. Showcase is an OVP. You are still providing people to work on it. A. We were providing people to work as directed. I wouldn't agree that – so effectively what we were prohibited from doing is all of these various bits and pieces. So the supply of online storage, transcoding. Effectively, the supply of an OVP. We were not providing an OVP. … Previously we’d effectively – it was our servers that all of this Showcase was operating on. Showcase was installed on servers that we controlled and we then effectively supplied that online video platform to Technicolor, so Technicolor paid us for the use of that but we were providing it as a software, as a service I think is the description. As it happens actually, a little bit before, a couple of days or a week or so before the order, they were starting to look to have it hosted on their own servers entirely, so rather than us having an OVP that we could provide to Technicolor and indeed to many other clients, effectively this was taken and put on servers that Technicolor owned and – controlled, rather than owned – themselves. So rather than us providing a software service that Technicolor and other people could use, effectively that was all taken away from us and just kept on Technicolor’s servers. So rather than us having an OVP product even if it’s not a conventional OVP and all the rest of it, an OVP product that could then be sold to other people and used by other people, that ceased because it became stored on Technicolor’s own servers. That was the fundamental difference. So all of those associated services that before we’d been able to sell them bandwidth and transcoding activity and then add a margin on it, that ceased to be able to happen, because obviously Technicolor were paying for all of that themselves directly.”
“A. When I read these emails, each of these emails, which are minutes once again, of a meeting, which is a meeting for advancement and progress of a global project. There are some action points and what we see is that some action points that were referred in January or February. Some of them are still under discussions or are still not resolved afterwards. So meaning that there were some ongoing process obviously that were taking place and that had started before 28th March, which is quite normal. I don’t think that it was possible for NOVP to just stop developing. The platform was not finished. It was still under perhaps not construction but it was still under integration. So there were still some moves to be done. The AWS ownership transfer is something that I suspect that Technicolor wanted it in any case, and that, of course, at the very beginning NOVP had its own servers on Amazon and it was completely okay to use them. At one point in time when going to production, meaning to the real platform, the real life platform, at one point in time it was pretty obvious that there should be a transfer of ownership or a switch from this platform to Technicolor platform. It’s quite natural for such a player as Technicolor to ask that.”
“Q. You would not consider yourselves directly competitive with Invideous. A. I’m not providing end-to-end services to my customers. When I’m providing something to my customers I provide resources, profiles that are working for my customers, and all of the intellectual property belongs to my customer and I just have a payment for the day rates. That’s all. So I’m not providing any product. So no, I’m not competitive to Invideous or NOVP.”
“Hi Jack, At some point next week, the legal team would like to catch up with you on a call to discuss your ongoing legal process with Invideous. Just to understand and take a view on this. And perhaps some conversations on acquisition too maybe.”
“that substantive change is that we can’t integrate with any online video platform so we can’t provide proper video services for clients. The only way the user can get their video content into the system is if they’ve already got a Dropbox account and if they have a separate transcode provider. So that is a huge change, which effectively renders this entire proposition entirely unworkable, to be frank.”
“10. NOVP did not begin trading until November 2012. Until very recently, it has had only one client, and that client is not a client of [Invideous Ltd or Invidius Dooel-Skopje] (nor has it ever had any connection with [Invideous Ltd or Invidius Dooel-Skopje]”
“Q … The client in question is Technicolor, is it not? A. Yes. Q. And it is not true to say that it had not ever had any connection with IL or ID, is it? A. I guess it would depend on the definition of connection. I think in terms of it not being a client of IL or not being a partner of IL or not being a reseller of IL, Technicolor has never had either of those relationships with Invideous. However, yes I’ve emailed, obviously has communications with Technicolor in regards my capacity as Invideous as well. Q. And has entered into two non-disclosure agreements with Technicolor. A. Yes, but that doesn’t make it ---- That’s not a commercial agreement, is it? That’s a non-disclosure agreement. Yes, I admit that not having had any connection might be a bit of a reach, but in terms of it actually having a meaningful relationship, i.e. client resale partner, there was none of those relationships between Technicolor and Invideous. Q. You were going out of your way in that paragraph to put Invideous off the scent, were you not, in terms of what you had been doing with Technicolor. A. No, I wasn’t actually. I was responding to the order with an affidavit as I was required to do. Q. At no point before 28th March or indeed on 28th March or indeed after that did you ever volunteer the fact that what NOVP was doing was providing a Showcase to Technicolor. You left that to Invideous to find out from your deleted emails, did you not? A. Yes, but I don’t really see the point you’re making about it. MRS JUSTICE ROSE: Never mind what point she is making. Just answer the question. A. Yes, no, that’s correct.”
“MRS JUSTICE ROSE: …. And the reason that you say that you did not refer to those eight employees as in your affidavit was because the order required you to refer to discussions or correspondence that you had had with each employee about the termination of their employment or any offer of employment with NOVP and you say that as far as those eight were concerned, Igor Micov had discussions with them and not you? A. Yes. I had nothing -- I had no discussions with them about them moving to NOVP, and indeed, in my affidavit where staff are employed by NOVP I made no – I mention that. It's not something I ever try and hide. When I was writing this affidavit, to be frank those ones would never even have gone through my mind. Now, because I think perhaps I did place too much emphasis on the first defendant doing its "(rather than "or anybody acting on my instructions or behalf", but (a) I didn't think about them but (b) I didn't specifically say to Igor that these people have to come to NOVP. So, certainly my focus and I guess I believe it was information that the claimants were particularly interested in as well, was regarding the people that had very much more recently been sacked from Invideous in the same way as they had asked me to outline conversations I had had with clients as well.”