“services relating to… law other than that of England and Wales…”
“[w]hat the Act has done is to create domestic rights expressed in the same terms as those contained in the Convention. But they are domestic rights, not international rights. Their source is the statute, not the Convention. They are available against specific public authorities, not the United Kingdom as a state” (Re McKerr, per Lord Hoffmann at paragraph 63). (3) That analysis is unaffected by what Lord Neuberger PSC said in Keyu; and it demonstrates that the various obiter uses of the word “incorporated” found in the judgments relied on by the claimant are no more than a loose and inaccurate way of expressing the manner in which the HRA functions, as correctly described by Lord Hoffmann and Lord Clyde. (4) But even if it were linguistically accurate to describe the HRA as having “incorporated” into domestic law the Convention rights referred to in it, it would not follow that the law applied in the ECtHR is that of England and Wales. The ECtHR applies the law of the Convention, not that of England and Wales. The two legal systems are separate. (5) Thus, the Convention regime in domestic law is only available to the extent provided for in the HRA, against public authorities, as defined, in the performance of functions that engage Convention rights. The domestic courts are not bound by decisions of the ECtHR, though they must take them into account. Domestic courts must apply domestic legislation even if it is incompatible with the obligations of the United Kingdom under the Convention (when it cannot be read down under section 3 to prevent the incompatibility). (6) The ECtHR, by contrast, adjudicates on claims against contracting states including the United Kingdom. The decisions of the ECtHR affect our domestic law only indirectly; the Strasbourg court does not in any real sense apply or interpret the law of England and Wales. It does not sit as a court of appeal against domestic judgments in cases founded on the Convention rights in the HRA. The law of the Convention which it applies existed long before the HRA and the latter Act did not alter that body of law. (7) As to the supposed analogy with EU law rights in domestic law, and the claimant’s reliance on the decision of the Supreme Court in the Miller case, Mr Lowe said the difficulty with the analogy is that in the case of the HRA there is “nothing coming down the conduit pipe”
“… unless any such law is relevant for determining any issue relating to the law of England and Wales”
“The Commission may not fund …. services relating to any law other than that of England and Wales”. (7) Lord Ackner cited the example of an extradition case and asked (with other Lords then chiming in with various other examples) whether there would not be cases “where it may well be necessary for foreign law to be gone into and be the subject matter of expert evidence?”
“quite obvious that it was not intended to exclude from legal aid, whether civil or criminal, services in order to deal with foreign law when it is a fact in issue in English proceedings necessary to be determined in order to arise [sic] at a just outcome”
“unless any such law is relevant for determining any issue relating to the law of England and Wales”. (9) He went on to explain that the amendment was “designed to ensure that the wording of Clause 18 does not prevent the legal services commission from providing help … where there are factual issues of foreign law which arise in proceedings in England and Wales”