"Mr Weir anticipates that D, her mother and Ms C will face some discrimination at school. It seems to me that it may be more difficult for them than for heterosexual couples to establish themselves as a family, as the family which is providing the primary parenting for D. This difficulty may be in establishing their status to outsiders who they meet day to day in their lives, but there will also be work to be done with regard to Mr B's perception of them as a family and I think with regard to D's too. Not least D will have some extra questions about her background which children of heterosexual relationships do not. Ms A also spoke of the vulnerability that they feel because they are a lesbian couple with a considerable age difference between them."
"….all the rights, duties, powers, responsibilities and authority which by law a parent of a child has in relation to the child and his property."
"Parental responsibility is a question of status and is different in concept from the orders which may be made under s 8 in Part II of the Children Act. The grant of the application declares the status of the applicant as the father of that child. It has important implications for a father whose child might for example be the subject of an adoption application or a Hague Convention application. In each of those examples, a father with parental responsibility would have the right to be heard on the application. He would have the right to be consulted on schooling, serious medical problems, and other important occurrences in a child's life."
"I have taken legal advice from CAFCASS legal office. I am told that this appears to be a case where parental responsibility should be granted. Mr B clearly has a positive relationship with the child, he has demonstrated commitment and given the length of time of his involvement, he is not a threat to Ms A and Ms C's relationship."
"The reason PR is such a loaded issue in this case relates to the potential implications of the decision on society and its perceptions: in their microcosm, this is precisely why Ms A and Ms C oppose it."
"From my last meeting with [Ms A and Ms C] I got the impression that they have very grave concerns about the treatment D is getting in the …. Hospital. [Ms C] mentioned that she would be asking you to refer them to a London Hospital or to a private clinic. [Ms C] did talk about the ARA test results and the concerns that this might affect D's eyesight. This does raise concerns with me that this reaction by them to something that might pass and never trouble D again might lead to the insistence on extra tests that in themselves might lead to the creation of a condition that did not exist prior to the tests i.e. an allergic reaction to an anaesthetic or an infection arising out of explorative surgery as an example. What I have said so far is based on 2 pieces of information. D has JRA in her right knee and she has an elevated ANA reading in her last blood test. I feel the approach of wait and see what will develop with D is appropriate at the moment. There is no immediate need for a second opinion or the need to refer her to a London Hospital at the moment. I have total confidence in the care provided by you and the …. Hospital and that D will receive the best possible care under your guidance."
"8) To me, one central issue is a societal one. Is society going to recognise a lesbian partnership with children as a family? 9) The second central point is how the biological father is treated in such a situation. There is no exact analogy. For me the nearest is surrogacy, where the woman bearing the child gives up all her rights as a parent despite her role in bringing the child into the world (whether or not she is the biolo gical parent). A lesbian couple could be seen as similar to an infertile couple, let us say for the sake of argument married, and as when it is the man who is infertile, seeking fertilisation through IVF or sexual intercourse. No one would in that case be promoting the "donor father" having PR. The big difference in the latter case is that the "secret" could be withheld from the child. In the case of two lesbian parents, at some stage, that a man was involved in their conception, will become apparent to the child and others will raise this. "
"…just how deep rooted concepts and language are in relation to families and that the law, in a sense, pre-empts ways of understanding new family structures."
"I believe if the Court can find appropriate terms to refer to the parties in this case, the issue will be solved."
"12) …. can a father who shows interest and commitment be a father and not a parent?"
"14) From D's perspective, the situation is very much outside of the societal norm. She cannot as yet grasp the significance of a father but knows which one of the three fathers is hers and which two E's. 15) If one were to draw a family relationship tree, then D's situation is complex: a father who is a bisexual and is married to a bisexual; a mother who is a Lesbian and lives with a second mother to D who has no biological relationship to her (D). Two other fathers – both gay, one of whom is and one of whom is not the biological father of E. E is her half-sister and shares the same biological mother. 16) The situation is very different from and in most ways more complex than any of the analogies."
"154) D may at times feel "abnormal" because of the difference between her family and that of other children, because of comments and because she has to think about sexuality issues in a more head on way than most children. ... 161) D is likely to meet prejudice. Her school mates will soon identify she is in an anomalous family and make comments. If confident and resilient, she will be able to weather these and other children will simply lose their curiosity and drop the subject. 162) D will no doubt refer to the fact that she has a father who lives elsewhere (she already does and it is healthy). She might feel she has to exp lain more if she is teased about not having one. 163) And society as a whole? Again, they will see D's situation as unusual and probably as "abnormal"
"139) The central difference from the examples above is that the couple are lesbian and because of that there is the glaring fact that both cannot be the child's biological parents. It is far more difficult … for this family to be seen within society as a "family"
" He is… highly maternal and D will experience from him an unusual, but perhaps in many ways more nurturing, relationship … than from many fathers….He is by nature someone who is anxious and emotional, maternal and nurturing in his need for involvement with D. This means his interest and concern in her medical complaints and in the details of her daily life is greater and more emotionally important to Mr B than to many fathers. This is likely to drive him to be intrusive on the family at times. And D does not only have the issues of three potential parents but three potential mothers."
"All three are the most remarkable people and only D is more remarkable. She has lots of benefits."
"130) The research literature tells us that D is likely to thrive, is not more likely than other children to be lesbian and is likely to be able to deal with discrimination. It also tells us that D is going to thrive even in the absence of a father having a role in her life. It does not tell us whether the absence or presence of a biological father is an additional help or hindrance nor, in particular, the effect of greater involvement in a "visible" sense by a father when this is so vehemently opposed by the central couple."
"109) The brief answer [to the questions put to her] is that per se the question of PR, whether granted or withheld, will have little or no direct impact on D. The concept will have no meaning for D (in the same way it does not for the general public, here the Children Act has failed because this idea of parental responsibility is not recognised) until someone tells her about it and explains. If no-one did, she might remain permanently in ignorance although her studies may lead her into an area that makes her aware of this issue. So, she may, in adolescence if not told or sooner if told, realise there is such a thing legally that does have relevance to her father's role in her life. 110) In terms of the importance of her father and the quality of her relationship with him, this will largely depend on the amount and quality of contact. What Mr B says, and my assessment supports this statement, is that his commitment to D will be unaffected by PR." 111) What will be different for D if her father were to be granted parental responsibility is his visibility: his involvement in decision making, his presence at important events (doctor's appointments, school open evening and events and other things that he becomes aware of). This will affect peoples' awareness of the importance of D's father and, in this sense, give him recognition and some authority. 112) I shall refer to this role, endowed by PR, as "visibility" for brevity's sake. 113) Unfortunately, it may be that D's main awareness of this visibility is: - When there are disagreements, particularly in relation to decisions, between Mr B and the "parents" with whom she lives; - A consciousness of the resentment from Ma and Mummy when Mr B, in their eyes, intrudes on events pertinent to D; - Increased reference to her father outside of home and noting that others see him as important in her life and in decisions about her. 114) There is a risk that she will be required to keep certain things secret so as to exclude Mr B."
"152) If he has PR, he will be more of a presence in her life and she will be more aware of him as someone who, like Ma and Mummy, makes decisions and comes to important events in her life – at school or when she is unwell. 153) If he does not have PR, D will view him as more peripheral and see Ma, Mummy and E as constituting her family and the people who take all responsibility for her."
"178) I do believe the couple's fear that Mr B will want to be very involved to be correct; he talks as if he wants to be part of D's every moment and everything she has to face. So it is likely that he will try to be at all medical appointments, school events and such like. This would very clearly signify that the "family unit" was not in itself mandated to take such decisions. As a reason for my view see: Letter to Dr M5 179) This would have an effect on D's overall sense of security. "
"164) But will the issue of PR affect all this? Not directly but there will be a tendency for everyone D comes into contact with (or the family as a whole) to "look for the father"
"A third parent (and I use the word advisedly) will be confusing for D. Her sense of security will be strongest if she is clear that responsibility for her lies within her "nuclear" family."
"182) What would solve this would be if the father could receive official recognition in some way but not be allowed to involve himself in the nitty gritty of D's life – the parenting couple having rights above his in his area as is, for example, seen in special guardianship."