“I cannot say whether they were me or he did that to himself. I don’t recall the actual incident there were lots of things that happened at that time. We had lots of scuffles about this time.”
“What time will you be back? I could do with some shower help (wink emoji)”
“there is no reason Y and Z would lie. I wouldn’t have thought they would make it up.”
“there is no reason to believe the maternal grandmother is not reporting it correctly”
“both mother and father have contacted the NSPCC helpline to share information. Their 3-year-old daughter, X has disclosed on Friday, to ‘blank’ whilst on a trampoline that (details omitted) When mother was made aware of this, she called father and she met up at the ‘blank’ home with ‘blank’ to discuss the disclosure. The information was disclosed to father who disputes the allegation and says they are untrue. Father stayed the night at ‘blank’ home as he did not want to cause his daughter any distress. Father, at the time of the call to the NSPCC is living in the family home. When asked by mother when this happened X said “when you were out”
“I hope you know we all do care for you and hopes everything ends up ok. As long as X is happy that’s fine.”
“I attended a strategy meeting today at 12:00 PM present was Note Taker/social worker /chair/Health/Nursery were present however I did not get their names. Nursery stated that they had had previous concerns in relation to some bruising and marks on X. This was in 2020 when the nursery was under a different name and management. After some questions it was established that the bruises were on shins and knees, apart from one which appeared to be on her pubic bone. Parents provided an explanation that they were having house renovations completed that X regularly tripped over. Health had nothing relevant to share. The family are not known to social care. Only one instance of relevance- DV incident in January. All parties involved agreed that the disclosure was concerning for a three-year old to say without being prompted in some way. It was discussed as the disclosure was to ‘blank’ who are only ‘blank’ years old themselves we have to be open minded about the conversation they were having in order for X to disclose what she said. All parties agreed that due to the disclosure and previous instant where father had used credit cards to access porn. The positive is that father and mother are going to therapy to discuss their marital issues. All parties agreed that this met the threshold for section 47 scale of 3-4. Agreed that as X had not disclosed to an adult and when questioned by her mum she denied it there would be no involvement from police at this time.”
“We need to spend quality time together as a family and as lovers”
“It does seem strange that X has made an allegation that…. X also said that 2 boys in nursery showed their willy’s but when asked said it was ‘blank’ and not her…. X has not been truthful about incidents in nursery, so this raises the question about the validity of the allegation about her father especially now when she said she said she was joking. It does appear that X may have made this up.”
“I thought it was awful when I watched my daughter. There was a consistency in it. She doesn't seem to be trying to please. I'm not aware of her having any life experience which would allow her to describe this”
“259. In family proceedings, evidence given in connection with the welfare of a child is admissible notwithstanding any rule relating to the law of hearsay (see theChildren (Admissibility of Hearsay Evidence) Order 1993 ). The weight to be attached to a piece of hearsay evidence is a question for the court to decide (Re W (Fact Finding: Hearsay Evidence)[2014] 2 FLR 703 ). Within this context, a serious unsworn allegation may be accepted by the court provided it is evaluated against testimony on oath (Re H (Change of Care Plan)[1998] 1 FLR 193 ). It is very important to bear in mind at all times that the court is required to treat hearsay evidence anxiously and consider carefully the extent to which it can properly be relied upon (see R v B County Council ex parte P[1991] 1 WLR 221 ). 260. In this case, these principles are thrown into particularly sharp relief in circumstances where none of the children who have made allegations of sexual abuse have given oral evidence at this hearing and been cross-examined on behalf of those against whom they level those allegations. Mr Bagchi and Ms Bains, citing the American jurist John Henry Wigmore, who observed that “Cross-examination is the greatest legal engine ever invented for the discovery of truth”, remind the court that oral evidence given under cross-examination reflects the long-established common-law consensus that the best way of assessing the reliability of evidence is by confronting the witness (see Carmarthenshire County Council v Y & Others[2017] EWFC 36 at [8] per Mostyn J). Within this context, I remind myself that the Court of Appeal has made clear that where the evidence of a child stands only as hearsay, the court weighing up the evidence must consider the fact that it was not subject to cross-examination (Re W[2010] 1 FLR 1485 ). I make clear that I have done so. 261. In circumstances where, in this case, the allegations are comprised of hearsay evidence from children concerning (at least in respect of the children) events which are alleged to have occurred some years prior to the allegations being made, I also remind myself that a court considering the hearsay evidence of a child must consider not only what the child has said, but also the circumstances in which it was said (R v B County Council, ex parte P[1991] 1 FLR 470 ) and, again, that it has long been recognised that care must be taken not to focus attention on statements made by the child at the expense of other evidence (1997 Handbook of Best Practice in Children Act Cases).”
“I was under the assumption nothing had been confirmed, I can only believe what I have been told by X. I think it is unfathomable someone would do such a thing. So at the time I did not believe he would do such a thing.”
“In the beginning I did not want to believe such an atrocious thing would happen. I believe listening to the father’s account and X’s account of her in his care that he has something he is trying to hide. She has been consistent he (details omitted). I think there is evidence to support what she said, I think given his history it is very likely he has done it.”