“It is disappointing that, despite the passage of time since the Cleveland report, several witnesses had either not read the report at all or, if they had, they ignored its conclusions in many respects. Permeating the whole case is the underlying theme of ‘the child must be believed’. Of course what any child says must be listened to and taken seriously, but the professionals must be very careful not to prejudge the issue. Listening to the child is the subject of ch 12 of the Cleveland report. It contains important advice and information, much of which was overlooked.”
“a) use of untrained and inexperienced interviewers; b) failure to approach the interview with an open mind; c) use of leading questions; d) over-interviewing of the children; e) interviews conducted at the pace of the adults, rather than the child; f) grossly inadequate video- and audio-recording; g) lack of background information in the possession of the interviewers; h) use of too many interviewers, either together or in sequence; i) telling the child what another child has said; j) pressure and anxiety to obtain results.”
“Sometime after March 2017 I started to remember things. At first it was just snippets and fragments of memory and nightmares which I put down to my imagination. I think I was in denial. In August 2017, there was an incident where EF got upset about going on holiday and showed us a mark on his chest. After that I began to remember more and more things and I realised they were true and had really happened. In each police interview I told the police the things I had remembered up to the point of that interview. I was truthful to the police, but after each interview I would remember more things and so sometimes I appear to contradict myself. At first, I remembered only the minor things that happened but, as time went on, I remember the more serious things. I can't remember when I first started remembering sexual things as they started coming in little snippets, which I put down to my imagination at first. The incidents became clearer in my mind around the middle of July 2018 but has not come into total focus. By the time of the final ABE interview in July 2018 I had a clearer recollection of events, however there was not enough time in the interview to go through these and Cat, the police officer conducting the interview wanted to finish off talking about allegations of physical abuse concerning CD. The police decided not to arrange anymore ABE interviews after that and so I could not tell the police about the sexual things. Instead, I told the doctor and police officer who were present for my medical examination in September 2018. I have found it hard to remember things clearly, because there are so many memories and some incidents are very similar to each other. It takes time for me to process them. Sometimes I get muddled and confused. Sometimes, when I first remember an event, details that are not true can get mixed up in the memory, but the more I picture things the easier it is for me to distinguish the parts that have really happened. For example, I told Dr Kumara that there are secret rooms at KL and MN's house. When I said that, I believed it to be true. I was trying to make sense of my memories which were not completely clear and in those memories I did not recognise the rooms. Since then I have had longer to picture things and I think I was a bit muddled. I understand that it may be suggested that I am not being truthful. I realise that the social workers believe that I am lying and that my mother has influenced me to make the allegations. I am not lying. No one has made me make the allegations. They are what I remember. I do discuss my memories with my mum and my brothers sometimes. My brothers have also told me about things that have happened to them. Sometimes, when I have mentioned particular things to them, they have encouraged me to talk to professionals about it, but no more than that.”
“I think I have confused this incident with a book I was reading about a hostage being tortured by the Taliban. When I was being interviewed by the police, my mind was a wreck. I was just searching for things to tell the police, it seemed to be what they wanted to hear. The police seemed to want more and more incidents; to me it felt like if I didn’t say something they wouldn’t take me seriously;” “I didn’t know why I said it did. I felt like the police officer was convinced that something had happened in the shower and I convinced myself that it had too. I believed it when I said it but now realise it is not true.” “I said punch to the police to make it sound worse as at the time I wanted him to be in trouble. At the time, I spent time searching on the internet to find out how to make it sound worse. For example, instead of saying “push”, I would say “shove”
“As she now believes, there is absolutely no truth in the allegations made by the children against their paternal grandfather, paternal grandmother and paternal uncle. As she now believes, beyond occasional rough-handling of the children (and the mother does not know exactly what happened on19 July 2017 ), there is absolutely no truth in the allegations made by the children against their father.”