“MR. LYONS: Your Honour, may I observe, with respect, that your Honour has declined, and I will make this very clear for the purposes of the record------ JUDGE JOY: Well, I’m not going to hear from you any more------ MR. LYONS: … that your Honour declined to hear------ JUDGE JOY: I ruled------ MR. LYONS: … the points and can I make it also clear for the record------ JUDGE JOY: No, no------ MR. LYONS: … that your Honour------ JUDGE JOY: Mr Lyons, would you sit down, please, before you say anything that you are going to regret. The position is that I have ruled and you are bound by my ruling.”
“MR. LYONS: Your Honour, with great restraint, a point of law arises. JUDGE JOY: No, that is a perfectly reasonable question. MR. LYONS: No, your Honour, I restrain myself, your Honour, as I am entitled to, there is a point of law I want to argue in the absence of the jury. It is, in my submission, an entirely improper question for reasons which I will explain in the absence of the jury. JUDGE JOY: Mr. Lyons, would you sit down, please. MR. LYONS: Your Honour------ JUDGE JOY: Would you sit down, please, otherwise I shall------ MR. LYONS: I wish to make an objection to the question being asked in re-examination, the alternative to which may be the discharge of this jury and this young girl having to go through this whole experience again. JUDGE JOY: Mr. Lyons, would you sit down otherwise I shall ask you to be taken out. Would you please sit down. MR. LYONS: I ask one more time------ JUDGE JOY: Would you sit down. MR. LYONS: … would your Honour please hear a legal argument from counsel of considerable experience in front of your Honour. If your Honour says no, I will, of course, sit down. JUDGE JOY: Would you sit down, please. MR. LYONS: I will sit down. JUDGE JOY: Mr. Forbes, what is your question? MR. LYONS: Not in front of the witness, please, your Honour. JUDGE JOY: I would like to hear from Mr. Forbes, unless you sit down, I shall ask for you to be taken out. MR. LYONS: Your Honour, it is perfectly reasonable to ask Mr. Forbes------ JUDGE JOY: Would you please sit down, Mr. Lyons. JUDGE JOY: Mr. Forbes, what is your question? MR. LYONS: Not in front------ JUDGE JOY: Would you please sit down and keep quiet, Mr. Lyons. I want to hear from Mr. Forbes what his question is. MR. LYONS: I have no objection to your Honour hearing from Mr. Forbes------ JUDGE JOY: And I will hear it. MR. LYONS: … but not in front of the witness. JUDGE JOY: Would you leave the court, please Mr. Lyons.”
“Human evidence shares the frailties of those who give it. It is subject to many cross-current such as partiality, prejudice, self-interest and, above all, imagination and inaccuracy. Those are matters with which the jury, helped by cross-examination and common sense, must do their best. But when a witness through physical (in which I include mental) disease or abnormality is not capable of giving a true or reliable account to the jury, it must surely be allowable for medical science to reveal this vital hidden fact to them. If a witness purported to give evidence of something which he believed that he had seen at a distance of fifty yards, it must surely be possible to call the evidence of an oculist to the effect that the witness could not possibly see anything at a greater distance than twenty yards, or the evidence of a surgeon who had removed a cataract from which the witness was suffering at the material time and which would have prevented him from seeking what he thought he saw. So, too must it be allowable to call mental evidence of mental illness which makes a witness incapable of giving reliable evidence, whether through the existence of delusions or otherwise.”