"Mr Flavin sat in court for the whole of the Hollards' evidence, and unlike many witnesses who would have used that experience to "firm up" their evidence to refute critical points, he appeared to me to have made every effort to consider the extent to which his original recollections and perceptions needed to be modified and corrected."
"Because events occurred some time ago, few contemporaneous documents exist in respect of the vital meetings between the Hollards and Mr Flavin, agent of the lessors, and because the memories of these events of the protagonists range from the partial to the non-existent, there is some dispute between the parties (or lack of agreement) over many of the details or dates."
"I do not however deem it necessary for me to seek to resolve all the disputed areas of fact and sequence; not to tidy up a number of puzzling loose ends. All I have to do is to determine those disputed facts which will enable me to determine whether or not a primary case has been made out on the facts to support the claim that the Hollards were ... induced to enter this lease agreement by actionable misrepresentation .... Therefore whilst I have been assisted in reaching the decisions which I need to make on the central issues by the detailed submissions of Counsel as to the precise sequence of events, I do not propose to make findings which would enable me to resolve all the disputes of evidence or even to produce a concrete chronology of events. What follows is in my judgment a sufficient overview of the history of this matter to enable me to resolve the key issues in the case."
"What I believe would've happened in March is that I would be telling Mr and Mrs Holland that I actually received instructions to now let the pub because Mr McGuigan had gone. That meeting would have been to make sure that the knowledge that I have imparted in the first meeting about the Inntrepreneur lease was actually understood because a lot was happening with our organisation at that time .... .... The course of events as I believe them to be is that in March we started seriously talking about the letting of the Angel. The business plan [that is a plan produced by the Hollards, but not available at trial] would be dealt with by Mr and Mrs Hollard. I would be doing my assessment of what I believed to be the average maintainable trade, the potential business. I believe that the meeting in May was the meeting that actually finalised our discussions about the terms of the lease. .... I would have given all the information that I had about the pub and that would primarily be the barrelage .... On that occasion, would details of the rent have been negotiated? .... No, I think we may have discussed it. I think there may have been some positioning going on at that stage but I hadn't actually put my proposal to our panel and therefore I wouldn't be able to speak with any certainty about what our expectation would be. Might you have discussed Mr McGuigan and his trading experience on that occasion? Yes, yes. And you recall discussing that? I can recall discussing barrelage figures in our meetings. .... Also I'm sure at that stage we would have talked about the possibility of Mr McGuigan buying some beer outside of the tie."
"On the face of it, one would think it likely that Mr and Mrs Hollard, for whom meetings were less routine than they were for Mr Flavin, would have a clearer recollection of what took place. To a degree this is true, but their perception of dates of the meetings was actually, in my judgment, little more than impressions deriving from, for the first meeting, Mrs Hollard's recollection of Christmas decorations in the hotel lounge where they met, and, for the next meeting, the normal pattern of fixtures for the Newquay Arms Darts Team. Mr Hollard, in particular, did not come across as a man of precise mind or recollection. Nor did he always express himself with clarity. He is a patently honest and decent man and was doing his best to remember events and conversations, but my assessment that he is a poor historian as to matters of detail, and that futhermore, despite his proven business abilities, he is not a man who would have observed the nuances of what was said to him, nor would he even have pressed Mr Flavin particularly hard on matters of detail."
"Moreover, by the time she gave evidence, she had heard the examination and cross-examination of her husband, including those points at which he had clearly not said the things which supported his pleaded case. She was plainly an honest witness but I am satisfied that there was an element of sub-conscious making good of some of his deficiencies which again prevents me from treating her as an entirely reliable historian."
"Contrary to parts of his evidence, Mr Hollard had, in my judgment, become keen to take on The Angel and had an understandable confidence that he could make a success of it, just as he had of the Newquay Arms"
"It is not necessary for me to reconstruct these meetings fully, nor would it be possible for me to do so given the state of the evidence before me. All I really have to do is to determine whether certain specific recommendations were made at certain specific months during the negotiations. I can however say that I have finally concluded that on the balance of probabilities Mr and Mrs Hollard are more likely to be right that there were three meetings rather than four, and that these took place in December 1990, March 1991 and May 1991. The last of these was, I find subsequent to the second Rent Panel meeting (Mr Flavin effectively accepts this). I reach this conclusion on the basis that the Hollards are indeed more likely to be right because these meetings were not the routine affairs that they were for Mr Flavin. Moreover, I have concluded that it is improbable that Mr Flavin is right in his honest belief that he must have shown [the 23 rd April barrelage print-out] to the Hollards. Confident though I am satisfied that Mr Hollard was of his ability to build up the trade of The Angel, it is I conclude improbable that had he seen the dramatically plunging figures, he would have been willing to sign an agreement imposing upon him an MPO of 400 barrels."
"By March, would it be fair to say that you had made the decision not to produce listing particulars? Yes, I would say that. You must have been fairly confident, therefore, that Mr Hollard would take the lease? I hoped he would. You must have been confident? Not necessarily because we still had quite a lot of discussions to hold. Then why did you not go through the simple task of preparing particulars?" (TR4 p.34) "
"My memory tells me that I did it. My pride tells me I did not. And my pride will win."
"We are instructed that when our Clients originally negotiated to take a Lease of the above premises from the Brewery the Brewery indicated a barrelage of 400 barrels per annum was quite normal and indeed talked in terms of 600 to 700 barrels per annum. Mr and Mrs Hollard had to rely on the Brewery for this information as the original Tenant had left and the Brewery had a temporary Manager in the premises who, we are instructed, left on the afternoon of the Protection Order being granted. .... From the time our Clients took over the running of the Public House they have only been able to achieve a barrelage of approximately 270 barrels per annum due to its restricted serving area and in the circumstances there is no way the Public House can pay a rent of£50,000 per annum on this barrelage."
"It is essential therefore that the various structural works be carried out to enhance the building, to make it more soundproof and to encourage more persons to frequent the premises in order to attain the barrelage of 400 barrels per annum which the Brewery informed Mr and Mrs Hollard the premises were quite capable of sustaining. As mentioned above this information regarding barrelage is quite incorrect."
"However, Lord Thankerton added this rider: "