“…But while, speaking generally, the claim system set out in the above legislation appears coherent, it is odd, as the claimant picks up on, that regulation 11 of the PIP C and P Regs 2013 states that a claim made by telephone is properly completed if the Secretary of State is provided during that call with all the information required to determine the claim and that, otherwise, the claim is defective. But it is really very difficult to envisage a telephone conversation in which all of the information which might conceivably be required before a fair and informed decision can be made might be provided. That would certainly mean, in effect, the person receiving the call going through each and every question with the claimant which would be asked on the claimant questionnaire. Even then, very probably, there would need to be further medical information and opinion obtained from a health professional via a paper based report or (I think much more commonly) a face-to-face assessment with a report following that. That medical input cannot, of course, be obtained by way of a telephone conversation between the claimant and the call handler. Further, the contention put forward by the claimant would mean, in effect, that a claim had not been properly completed until the point at which it was ready to be actually determined. The better way of looking at it, it seems to me, is to say, as the Secretary of State’s representative suggests, that notwithstanding the rather loose, misleading or unclear wording of regulation 11(4), the claim if made by telephone is actually made once the various questions concerning the “lay conditions” have been answered to the satisfaction of the Secretary of State such that she accepts the claim as having been made and as not being defective. What then follows is really the gathering of evidence relevant to the question of whether the claim, as made, should be allowed and if so on what terms. The phrase “all the information required to determine the claim” is not to be taken to mean all the information a diligent decision-maker might wish to have before making a fully informed decision but, rather, enough information to enable the making of a coherent decision on the claim in light of whatever evidence might or might not then be obtained in the process of considering that claim. There might though be some merit in consideration being given to rewording the regulation in order to aid clarity of understanding.”
“15. The effect of section 17(1), as explained in CSDLA/237/03 (though the wording was slightly different at the date of the Commissioner’s decision) is that decisions on claims are final, subject to appeals, revisions, supersession or judicial review. As was also explained by the Social Security Commissioner, section 12(8)(b) has to be applied in conformity with section 17(1) and with the basic rule that there cannot be overlapping decisions in respect of the same benefit. As was pointed out, if that were not the case the situation “could be chaotic”
‘However the tribunal jurisdiction ended on 29/7/22 due to [the Appellant] making a further PIP claim on that date. A negative determination was made in respect of that further claim on 25/9/22 because he failed without good reason to comply with the request for information to determine entitlement to PIP and as a matter of law the tribunal has no jurisdiction over that decision from the effective date of that decision, which is 29/7/22 and thus the tribunal could not make an award of PIP beyond that date.’
“The FTT failed to give adequate reasons and that there was no evidence to support the findings at para 44 of the SOR that the Applicant: a) had made a second claim to PIP in a telephone call on29 July 2022 ; and b) that the SSWP had made a formal decision refusing any PIP claim (that such a decision was in existence).”
‘Since [the Appellant] submitted his appeal, he’s claimed PIP on29 July 2022 . This claim was disallowed on25/09/2022 as [he] failed to return his PIP2 questionnaire.’
“The FTT erred in deciding that there was a second PIP claim [on29 July 2022 which brought the Appellant’s entitlement to PIP on the first claim to an end on28 July 2022 ] – the Respondent could arguably only decide entitlement to PIP on a properly completed and valid claim. Even on the facts found by the FTT, assuming the evidence did support it, the claim was not properly completed and was defective by virtue of Regulation 11(4) of the Regulations and the defect was not corrected in compliance with Regulation 11(6). Further, there is no date on which the [second] claim was made for PIP pursuant to Regulation 12 [because Regulation 12(1)(b) provides that the date on which a telephone claim is made is the date on which it is properly completed].”
“… first, it must be shown that the evidence could not have been obtained with reasonable diligence for use at the trial; secondly, the evidence must be such that, if given, it would probably have an important influence on the result of the case, though it need not be decisive; thirdly, the evidence must be such as is presumably to be believed, or in other words, it must be apparently credible, though it need not be incontrovertible.”