"There is a danger of allowing people to turn up and say they are credible. The distinction on the case law is that those people may not give any new evidence – someone has already said everything [in writing], then they come on the day and they give oral evidence and the UT believes them."
'There is no limit to the form that a mistake of fact may take. It may consist of an incorrect finding, an incomplete finding, or an omission. It may relate to anything that may properly be the subject of a finding of fact. …' 52. What then of the decision in JHB? It is not easy to discern the ratio of the decision, but it appears to have been along the following lines: (1) the only 'mistake' found by the Upper Tribunal 'was that the DBS had a mistaken view of the facts because the UT happened to differ from the DBS in its assessment of the same or very nearly the same materials' (see at [90]); (2) there is no 'mistake' by the DBS if it makes a finding which is open to it on the material before it ([93]); and (3) the proper approach of the Upper Tribunal to an appeal on a question of fact is as explained in cases such as Volpi v Volpi and Subesh v SSHD[2004] EWCA Civ 56 , [2004] INLR 417 ([95]). 53. I would respectfully suggest that these cases are irrelevant to an appeal under section 4(2)(b) of the 2006 Act. They describe the approach of an appeal court which does not hear evidence for itself to a factual decision by a lower court which (usually but not always) has heard such evidence. But an appeal under section 4(2)(b) will generally involve the opposite situation, i.e. the DBS will have made a decision on the papers after considering written representations, while the Upper Tribunal is able to hear oral evidence. Moreover, the Upper Tribunal is the first independent judicial body to consider what will often be serious allegations against the barred person and its ability to determine the facts for itself (as distinct from whether those facts make it appropriate to include the person on the barred list, which is exclusively a matter for the DBS) is an important procedural protection (cf. R (Royal College of Nursing) v SSHD[2010] EWHC 2761 (Admin) ,[2011] PTSR 1193 at [102] and [103]). 54. It may be, nevertheless, that JHB is binding for what it decides. I would respectfully suggest, however, that its ratio must be confined to cases where the Upper Tribunal either hears no oral evidence at all, or no evidence which is relevant to the question whether the barred person committed the relevant act – in other words, where the evidence before the Upper Tribunal is the same as the evidence before the DBS. That was the position in JHB, where Lady Justice Elisabeth Laing explained at [90] that 'the UT heard very limited evidence from JHB, for example, that he had not been interviewed by the police about the allegation on which finding 3 was based'; and that '
“Well it wouldn’t, because I haven’t had sex with [Victim 1]”
“drank it straight down (10 seconds) felt quite drunk – couldn’t walk properly carried on drinking the Lambrini as well (Q:1-10 drunk?) = 8, I was falling all over the place” [p.255]. Later in the interview, after giving an account of being sick and waking up, she stated “Felt it [having sex] would have been wrong as I was drunk. I was ‘on’ [her period] so wouldn’t have felt comfy doing it with him. Feels she was too drunk to say yes so he’s took advantage.”
“I would like to say that he did not rape me. I have not been forced into making this statement. I am now back in a relationship with [Mr B]. It has been explained that the case will now be filed as no crime”
“On the22/05/2020 police received a 3rd hand report whereby it was alleged that [Mr B] had tried to take advantage of young girls by offering them alcohol. The 3rd party stated they were not sure how [Mr B] took advantage or how far he got.”