“.. Now the range of possible outcomes from an Inquiry go from no action or a warning on the less serious side of the scale to obviously revocation and disqualification for the most serious. Frankly, I am not thinking of dispensing with this by way of a warning or no action… The realistic outcome to me at the moment seems to vary somewhere between very strong regulatory action of a suspension/curtailment nature or outright revocation of the licence. That is the territory we are in and that cannot come as a surprise to you. So assuming I do not revoke the licence, which is a very big assumption but let us just assume it for a moment, what would the effect on the operator be of significant curtailment or a significant period of suspension”
“If you want to take the lot, take it”
“I am going to think whether to conclude, as a result of this Inquiry, that I can after all have confidence in Mr Llewellyn to comply in the future. It is not a no brainer for me there. Sometimes I can say immediately after an Inquiry or at the conclusion of one, “Yes, this is a person that I would have confidence in “ and sometimes I can immediately say, “No, I have not confidence in you at all” and Mr Llewellyn, it seems to me, is somewhere between the two. I still do not think he quite understands the importance of keeping good records and actually applying the rules. Mr Morris I think does understand these things. .. Though the operation probably today is not perfect but at least it is in a better place today than it was six months ago. That is clear. So I need to consider whether I can trust Mr Llewellyn in combination with Mr Morris as a Transport Manager to comply in future (inaudible) what Mr Llewellyn is saying causes me to doubt that; so what Mr Morris was saying offers me some reassurance and I need to just reflect a bit longer and get the actual balance comes out at the end (sic)”