“However, naturally, more weight is expected to be given to current medical evidence, collected specifically for the PIP claim than to evidence from the DLA file because the DLA evidence addressed a wholly different assessment regime and is also likely to be outdated. As recognised in AP, when cases come before the tribunals on appeal, tribunals may have questions or doubts about the medical evidence on which the Secretary of State’s PIP determination was made. If so then, as part of their own factual inquiries, the Secretary of State accepts that the tribunals might find it helpful to see DLA medical evidence, even where the claimant didn’t ask the Secretary of State to consider it. In order to assist the tribunals in determining whether DLA evidence is relevant to a PIP appeal before them…….the Secretary of State acknowledges that it may be useful for more information about the DLA evidence to be communicated in their submission to the FtT in these transfer cases. Judge Wright refers to the process of obtaining DLA evidence in transfer cases, explored in GD v SSWP[2017] UKUT 415 (AAC) . In that case, Judge Markus quoted an explanation of that process: “5a. PIP Reassessment Claimants are asked at outset if they want the DWP to include their DLA medical evidence when considering the PIP claim. Where DLA medical evidence is used, then that evidence will be attached to the claimants PIP file and marked as supporting that PIP decision. This will be kept for at least 2 years if the PIP decision was a disallowance. Or longer if the decision was an award. If there has been no request from the claimant to use their DLA medical evidence for their PIP claim then the old DLA evidence will be destroyed 14 months after the DLA decision has terminated. The PIP retention period is 24 months if the evidence is no longer classified as supporting. Once the DLA evidence has been included as part of the PIP claim it will have the same retention as any other PIP supporting document. AW v SSWP (PIP)[2018] UKUT 76 (AAC) CPIP/2748/2017 6 b. There is a departmental policy regarding document and data retention. However, benefits decide what fits their circumstances as documents can be retained for longer/shorter if there is a valid business need e.g. DLA is roughly 14 months for documents but PIP is 24 months due to the potential linking provision of Regulation 15 of theSocial Security (Personal Independence Payment) Regulations 2013 , but is consistent within each benefit. c. Please refer to answer a. Normally the DLA File is destroyed 14 months after it ceases to support an existing award. This period starts from 7 months after termination of award. The computer record will keep for 7 months and then close. The paper file will then be destroyed 14 months after that. However if any of that DLA evidence has been considered within the PIP claim then that evidence will support the PIP decision and it will be kept for as long as the PIP decision is current and 2 years after the PIP is no longer current. d. If the DLA medical evidence has been used to consider the PIP claim then this will be include in the evidence bundle sent to the tribunal.”
“The Secretary of State was not explicit in the original submission, but it desired that the whole of the matter to be remitted for rehearing by the First-tier Tribunal. On the first deficiency, the Secretary of State did not mention whether they would be satisfied with the daily living component being undisturbed on remission. The Secretary of State is not generally in favour of remitted cases being limited in that way, whereby upon the return of the case for rehearing to the First-tier Tribunal one component is fixed and the other is not. Rather, we feel it is best that the new tribunal is free to explore whatever evidence may arise from their questioning and from what extra pertinent evidence may be filed prior to the hearing. There is often overlap between the AW v SSWP (PIP)[2018] UKUT 76 (AAC) CPIP/2748/2017 9 two components, and evidence supplied or obtained by the tribunal on mobility activities could then trigger thoughts about the daily living activities (and vice versa). Say, for example, in investigating mobility activity 1 the tribunal learns that the claimant is a driver, when this knowledge was not before known, this could significantly change the tribunal’s opinion of descriptor choices for many of the daily living activities. On the second deficiency the Secretary of State submits that it is not appropriate for the Upper Tribunal to substitute a decision awarding the claimant the enhanced rate mobility component. Judge Wright refers to the rule of thumb that in DLA a claimant limited to 50 metres would satisfy the enhanced rate of DLA. However, that is a rule of thumb, it cannot be assumed that the claimant was exactly limited so. Moreover, the Upper Tribunal would also be wrongly assuming the DLA decision to establish facts for the purpose of PIP. The correct approach is for the FtT to request sight of the DLA evidence if it deems that necessary. As the 50 metre mark is the borderline between PIP mobility descriptors 2b and 2c/2d, and that also marks the material difference between receiving 4 points or 8/10 (leading in itself to an award at the standard rate) there needs to be precision in the findings on that point. There would also need to be a consideration of whether there has been any improvement or change since the time of the DLA decision and its accompanying evidence. As the Secretary of State has already argued for a remit on the ground that the FtT failed to consider adjourning in order to obtain the DLA evidence, I submit that it would be appropriate to remit the case and direct that DLA evidence to be produced, in order for the next tribunal to be able to find the factual details required in establishing the descriptor choice in this activity, by reference to any further evidence obtained.”