“may direct that a licence be revoked, suspended or curtailed”
“Mr Walsh raised concerns about the competency of our current CPC holder, Mr Gary Flynn, with this in mind we are sending Mr Flynn on a CPC awareness course as soon as it can be arranged. In addition to this we are increasing the time Mr Flynn dedicates to his CPC duties from one day a week to between 2-3 days per week ”. (x) On15 November 2013 Gary Flynn wrote to the OTC, in his capacity as transport manger. He said that following an in depth discussion with the partners in the Appellant, Mr Z Leonida and Mr L A Leonida, it had been decided that it would be prudent for him to attend a CPC awareness course as soon as possible. Mr Flynn pointed out that he had increased the time spent at the Operating Centre from 1 guaranteed day to between 2 and 3 days depending on his workload, adding that “the company are fully supportive of my role”
“A loss of vehicles on the partnership’s operator’s licence would cause it to fail if the company’s application is not granted at the same time. The contracts, which we have with suppliers prevent us from contracting out deliveries. If the Traffic Commissioner decides that regulatory action is appropriate in the case of the partnership operator’s licence I would ask that Traffic Commissioner not to make any adverse finding against the partners’ repute” . (xiv) On10 March 2014 the Public Inquiry commenced afresh before the Deputy Traffic Commissioner whose decision is now under appeal. He immediately sought to clarify what Mr Flynn was saying. He was told that Mr Flynn denied signing Form TM/1, dated1 March 2009 and relating to the Appellant and that he denied signing Form TM/1, dated18 September 2013 , relating to the company but that he did accept signing the letter dated15 November 2013 , (paragraph 2(x) above). Mr Flynn then made it clear that while he was a CPC holder he had never done the job of a transport manager, even though he accepted that he was the designated transport manager for the predecessor to the Appellant, Express Transport Ltd. He said that he was paid£80 per month as CPC holder for that company but that he did not have any additional duties. He insisted that the Appellant had only ever employed him as a driver. When given an opportunity to clarify the Appellant’s position Mr Brown made it clear that the Appellant’s case was the Mr Flynn had signed the disputed forms. (xv) Mr Flynn then gave evidence. He insisted that he had not signed the two forms and that it was a question of not recognising his signature rather than possibly signing a piece of paper without recognising what it was. In cross-examination he accepted that he had signed his driving licence and he was invited to compare that signature with the signatures on the disputed forms. He explained that he had been shown as transport manager for Express Transport Ltd and that his payslips showed an extra payment to cover that position. He said that he was never asked to be the transport manager of the Appellant and that once he was employed by the Appellant no extra payment was shown on his payslips. In relation to Express Transport Ltd and the Appellant he insisted that he had always been a driver and had never actually performed the role of transport manager. When asked why he had not performed this role he replied: “Cos I wouldn’t know how to do it to be honest”
“no idea about that one”
“What can I gain from this? Today I’ve lost a job, yeah, that I’ve done for 27 years”
“Apart from his name being on the licence his main … his sole role was as a driver. So between Zac and I we were taking on the duties of transport manager”
“Because I’m not a CPC holder it was limited but … so I wasn’t aware that we were doing anything wrong”
“Don’t worry. I will be putting my hand up to say that you haven’t done the job but going forward you can … you’ll have to go on a four-day, maybe a three-day week on the road and come into the office”
“Yeah, but we haven’t got a choice. You’re gonna have to do it now, you know, even though I need you as a driver”
“we had our procedures in place between Zac and myself … we dealt with all the matters even though our knowledge was limited”
“taken everything on board” . (xix) When he was asked about regulatory action Mr L Leonida said that if the licence was revoked the business would close, if the licence was suspended for a period of time: “we’d lose customers so we’d close”
“I’d say we’d close” , but then he added that it was not as simple as that because they could not just close they would have to discuss it with their accountant: “but there’s no way I can replace the contracts or work that I’ve got”
“These investigations could have been made between the first inquiry and the second inquiry, not at this stage in proceeding. There appears to be no reason for there to have been a delay in submitting this evidence unless intentional to not allow Mr Flynn the opportunity to cross-examine witnesses and rebut the evidence”
“ I need to take regulatory action that reflects this and acts as a deterrent to ensure future compliance by the company and others within the industry”
“Other operators with knowledge of this case may be tempted to say to themselves – ‘this operator appears to be getting away with it so why should we bother to incur expenditure of time, trouble and money to run a compliant operation?’ In my view, it only needs one or two other operators to adopt this approach in response to this case to lead to greater and greater numbers doing so in future. If that happens there is a real risk that the operators’ licensing system, which has made a significant contribution to road safety, will be fatally undermined.”
“it follows that, in a case like this, assuming that the traffic commissioner might have been encouraged to impose a shorter suspension had she been determined to provide a lifeline, the actuarial evidence needed to be far more specific, comprehensive and compelling than it was”
“For our part, therefore, we see no difficulty in the traffic commissioner concluding, in principle, that the right thing to do is to draw back from the ultimate sanction and, instead, impose a 12 week suspension. In any event, we consider that it would be a very retrograde step to discourage traffic commissioners from taking tough regulatory action (but falling short of revocation) if, after conducting a balancing exercise, it appears right to do so where a very clear marker is needed. We hold this view even if there is a possibility that the consequence will be to put the business in peril. In an appropriate case (which this is) a traffic commissioner is entitled to say: “I hope you survive but if not – so be it. On these particular facts, the public interest in maintaining the integrity of the system demands nothing less than a lengthy suspension”
“your repute is severely tarnished but not lost, so you have the opportunity to remain in business, but your conduct has been so bad that I must take regulatory action which not only deters you from non-compliance in the future but ensures that others in the industry will also comply rather than following your example”
“I hope you survive but if not – so be it. On these particular facts, the public interest in maintaining the integrity of the system demands nothing less than a lengthy suspension”
“this degree of non-compliance will have serious consequences for your business” , it seems to us that the message would come across as: “this degree of non-compliance only merits action which will have no real effect on your business”