“We were unaware of this until today when one of our vehicles was stopped by VOSA in the UK, as far as we were concerned our appeal was being processed”
“we were under the impression that we were covered until the appeals process had been exhausted” . (x) On24 April 2012 VOSA were informed by the DVA that the refusal to renew the Appellant’s licence: “is currently under appeal” and that the outcome was expected to be known within the next week. VOSA were also informed that the Scania last held a valid road freight vehicle licence on25 June 2010 and that it was not listed on the Appellant’s operator’s licence. (xi) On1 May 2012 the Office of the Traffic Commissioner, (“OTC”), wrote to the Appellant to indicate that the Traffic Commissioner had decided to hold a hearing, on9 May 2012 , to consider the Appellant’s application for the return of the Scania. (xii) On the same day an officer of the DVA made a statement saying that he had, that day, checked the Department’s records and ascertained that the Appellant did not hold current Road Freight Operator’s Licence. He added that the previous licence had expired on31 October 2011 , that an application had been received for its renewal on17 November 2011 but that this application had been refused and that that decision was currently under appeal. He also confirmed that the Scania was not licensed to carry goods for hire or reward. (xiii) The impounding hearing took place before the Deputy Traffic Commissioner on9 May 2012 . Mr O’Callaghan appeared on behalf of the Appellant and a Senior Vehicle Examiner, Mr Parish appeared on behalf of VOSA. (xiv) Mr Parish began by setting out VOSA’s case and the evidence in support of it, which we have summarised above. In answer to the Deputy Traffic Commissioner Mr Parish explained that the decision to impound the vehicle had been taken on the basis that it was a loaded goods vehicle, carrying goods, within the UK, on behalf of a third party and that the Vehicle Examiner had been told that renewal of the Appellant’s Road Freight Licence had been refused. He accepted that he was provided with information by other people who actually conducted the necessary checks. (xv) Mr Parish then agreed that his understanding of the position in Northern Ireland was the same as the Deputy Traffic Commissioner’s, namely that a licence remains in force, following an application to renew, until the application has been determined, (in this case on7 February 2012 ) and that following a refusal to renew there is a right to apply for a review within 14 days. Mr Parish went on to agree that he had assumed that if no review was sought the refusal to renew took effect. (xvi) In answer to Mr O’Callaghan Mr Parish said that, at the time of the impounding, it appeared that the appeal process had expired, that there was no review and that the licence was no longer in existence. However he accepted that the Traffic Examiner at the scene had been told by the driver that a review was being sought. He added that he had asked for the review letter to be supplied to him but that the feeling, from the information that they had, was that there was nothing there. (xvii) Mr O’Callaghan then gave evidence. The Deputy Traffic Commissioner, having agreed to receive evidence of ownership at a later stage, then sought to clarify the grounds on which the application was made. Mr O’Callaghan maintained that the Appellant ‘held an operator’s licence’ and gave the number L9905 and asserted that it was in force. When the Deputy Traffic Commissioner sought to question the last point Mr O’Callaghan referred to s. 16(1)(a) of the Transport Act (Northern Ireland) 1967, (“the 1967 Act”), saying that the effect of the subsection was that the licence remained in force until the appeal/review was disposed of. He explained that he had been specifically told this by the panel which conducted the review on25 April 2012 and that he had been told to write down the wording of s. 16. He went on to say that following the impounding on27 March 2012 he had faxed a copy of his letter of 17 February to the DVA and that he had had a meeting with them on the following day during which the DVA agreed to hold a review of the refusal to renew the licence. (xviii) In answer to further questions from the Deputy Traffic Commissioner Mr O’Callaghan was unable to give the exact date on which the licence ran out saying that it was the end of October or the start of November. He agreed that notification that the licence was about the expire would have been sent about two months before the expiry date. Mr O’Callaghan explained that he was unable to apply for renewal before17 November 2011 because of delay in receiving the criminal records check. (xix) The Deputy Traffic Commissioner then asked about the refusal of the application and the application for a review. Mr O’Callaghan said that following the refusal he had spoken to a Mr Rosbotham at the DVA and that he was aware that he had 14 days in which the request a review on behalf of the Appellant. He also accepted that Mr Rosbothom had telephoned to say that no application for a review had been received. He was unable to give a date for the conversation. Pressed by the Deputy Traffic Commissioner Mr O’Callaghan insisted that the letter was written on 17 February, though he added that he was not sure exactly when it was sent. He could give no explanation as to why the DVA had not received it, though he accepted that it was sent by ordinary post and not registered. He said that if the Appellant had not applied for a review the licence would have come to an end 14 days after the date of the refusal. He explained that he could not have obtained a Road Freight Vehicle Licence for the vehicle itself until the review of the refusal of his Road Freight Licence had been completed. (xx) The Deputy Traffic Commissioner returned to the question of requesting a review of the refusal of the application. In particular he asked why the telephone call from the DVA did not prompt some action. Mr O’Callaghan accepted that he ought to have sent or faxed another copy of the letter but speculated that he was probably out of the office at the time of the call. When pressed about the second call Mr O’Callaghan said that he thought that he had only been phoned once. The Deputy Traffic Commissioner suggested that, when the DVA did not receive an application for a review by22 March 2012 “the licence had gone”
“Technically, that would be right, but I wasn’t aware that they hadn’t received it on 22 March”
“I am not satisfied that Mr O’Callaghan has established on behalf of F&M that at the time the vehicle was detained the person using the vehicle held a valid licence (whether or not authorizing the use of the vehicle)”
“I have no hesitation in concluding that he had actual knowledge of the absence of a licence: he was told twice”
“at the time the vehicle was detained the person using the vehicle held a valid licence (whether or not authorising the use of the vehicle)” . “Licence” is defined in Regulation 2 of the 2001 Regulations as: “an operator’s licence (whether standard or restricted) as defined in section 2(1) of the 1995 Act”
“ whether or not authorising the use of the vehicle”
“although at the time the vehicle was detained it was being used in contravention of section 2 of the 1995 Act, the owner did not know that it was being or had been so used”
“I have no hesitation in concluding that he had actual knowledge of the absence of a licence: he was told twice”
‘are you going to apply for a review because we have not had an application’, and Mr O’
“that, at the time the vehicle was detained, the vehicle was not being, or had not been, used in contravention of section 2 of the 1995 Act”
“Section 2(1) of the Act shall not apply to the use in Great Britain of a Northern Ireland goods vehicle for the carriage of goods between places of loading or unloading in Great Britain or between one such place in Northern Ireland and another such place in Great Britain”
“ a goods vehicle of which the operating centre is in Northern Ireland”
“this matter is currently under appeal”