“(4) The Commissioners shall not be liable on a claim under this section— (a) to credit an amount to a person under subsection (1) … if the claim is made more than 4 years after the relevant date.” if the claim is made more than 4 years after the relevant date.”
“(1A) Subject to paragraph (1B) and (1C) below, any overstatement or understatement in a return where– (a) a period of 4 years has elapsed since the end of the prescribed accounting period for which the return was made; and (b) the taxable person has not (in relation to that overstatement or understatement) corrected his VAT account in accordance with this regulation before the end of the prescribed accounting period during which that period of 4 years has elapsed, shall be disregarded for the purposes of this regulation…” shall be disregarded for the purposes of this regulation…”
“Section 80 gives no discretion either to the Commissioners or to the Tribunal. It is absolutely clear and has to be applied.”
“On an ordinary reading of s. 80 a claim made by or on behalf of any claimant for credit or repayment to him requires to have been made prior to the expiry of the relevant limitation period.”
“…Hence, even when HMRC decide to direct under reg 35 that an error be corrected, they are not obliged to direct that that be done in such a way as to circumvent the limitation period to reclaim overpaid VAT set out in the primary legislation, in s 80. … (i) Regulation 35 confers a discretion on HMRC to impose requirements as to the time in which a taxable person shall correct an error; (ii) HMRC may, in the exercise of that discretion, lay down requirements in advance as to the time within which a taxable person must bring forward a proposed correction. The discretion is not limited to issuing requirements once a taxable person has come forward to identify an error or after HMRC identifies in error. … (iii) By issuing the HMRC Guidance (and previous versions of it, such as Notice 700/45/93), with its requirements as to the time within which applications to correct errors should be made, HMRC has exercised its discretion in line with its powers identified in (ii), above. … The imposition of those time limits in the Guidance is therefore lawful and a proper exercise of HMRC's discretion under reg 35; (iv) Unless good reason can be shown why, on the facts of a particular case, the general time limit rules in the HMRC Guidance for correction of errors should not be applied, HMRC is entitled to point to those rules as the basis for a decision to decline to issue a direction under reg 35 for errors in a VAT account or in VAT returns to be corrected. … (v) Therefore, HMRC were lawfully entitled to refuse to give further consideration to possible correction of the 02/05 return by relying on their policy as to time limits for corrections set out in the HMRC Guidance. The net effect of this is to leave the claimant's claim to recover what the liquidator maintains was an overpayment of VAT time-barred by virtue of s 80(4) of VATA. There is nothing improper or wrong about this result.”
“is it not a problem because they’re older than four years?”
“This Act shall not apply to any action or arbitration for which a period of limitation is prescribed by or under any other enactment (whether passed before or after the passing of this Act) or to any action or arbitration to which the Crown is a party and for which, if it were between subjects, a period of limitation would be prescribed by or under any such other enactment.”
“We were informed by Amazon that we register for German VAT, we’ve paid previously all our VAT to the UK authorities rather than the German authorities. We didn’t know what it would be like. We had no idea that this was wrong. Amazon only informed us in 2019. And then when they informed us we didn’t pay anything previously to the German authorities. It was just from that day. And but it was like circa£185,000 how we paid to yourselves instead of the German Authorities as we hadn’t heard anything. So we thought we didn’t know if there was any problem until recently. We have had a letter from the German VAT authorities demanding nearly 300.000 euros. We had an accountant phone up yourselves in November last year so I don’t if there’s any notes on the system which said we’d get the money back from yourselves.”
“The Commissioners shall not be liable on a claim under this section— (a) to credit an amount to a person under subsection (1) … if the claim is made more than 4 years after the relevant date.” (my emphasis) if the claim is made more than 4 years after the relevant date.”
“By issuing the HMRC Guidance…with its requirements as to the time within which applications to correct errors should be made, HMRC has exercised its discretion in line with its powers identified in (ii), above. … The imposition of those time limits in the Guidance is therefore lawful and a proper exercise of HMRC's discretion under reg 35…”