“I am not eligible – I should not have claimed. I thought I was entitled to it, only received letter other week saying I wasn’t.”
“25. Advisor Ok do you know what Mr Cotton there is a note on there from my colleague on the self-employed side on the 1 April saying that there is no self-employment pages erm no self-employed income shown on the 2019/2020 tax return so just looking at that bit there makes it seem as if oh ok it doesn’t look as if you were self-employed at all during that year so something’s gone a bit wrong hasn’t it 26. Caller Yes because do you know what it was because this is what I understand so I knew because I work away, I’m self-employed and I work off-shore so that year I was off-shore right so I still had to do my tax return but I didn’t know this but you are classed as employed right in that year so it wasn’t until (Inaudible) but surely HMRC would have known, I do, I do understand that I do understand in that year I wasn’t but because I was at sea you are classed as employed 27. Advisor Right, yeh 28. Caller And that was actually, that was actually new to me 29. Advisor So, a bit of a shock then 30. Caller Still I thought at the time, it should have been err, for me it would have been better if they said oh Mr Cotton you weren’t eligible for the grant because I know people who applied for it and they weren’t eligible for it and they said unfortunately we can’t but it was the fact that it came up for me and said that I was, that it all came to light you know what I mean … 40. Caller But that’s when so you know like one of your colleagues, so you know on the 2019/2020 year like one person told us to amend my tax return just to say that I was self-employed and I thought well that’s wrong, thars [sic] illegal”
“I am appealing against the decision to invalidate the SEISS against me. My reasonings for this is as far as I was concerned, I was self employed for the eligible years and acted in complete good faith when applying for the grants, while Incas [sic] out of work during the pandemic and had no income or earnings. When I applied for the grants, HMRC accepted my claim and I received the first 3 grants. It was not until I applied for the fourth grant that it got brought to my attention that I wasn't eligible. My question is why this wasn't picked up on my first claim, as HMRC had all my relevant documentation, and the grants were down to the penny that my accountant had told me I would receive. I know that some people got rejected straight away for the grants, but HMRC accepted mine, so as far as I am concerned, this is an error on their behalf, not mine.”
“I am totally astounded that after all of this time, written correspondence and phone calls, you have now decided that I have no right to appeal. I have consistently asked for copies of the phone calls with HMRC which have not been forthcoming. Upon phoning HMRC, yoi [sic] get told by an automated message that all phone calls are recorded. I fervently believe that these recordings would justify my reasons for making the claims. One has to remember that HMRC had at the time, at their disposal, all of my relevant work details. In fact, as previously [sic] mentioned, one of the HMRC employees told me to just change my employment details from employed to self employed, which is essentially breaking the law. Additionally, as I got advised to amend my tax return, but when my accountant filed filed [sic] an amendment, it was no change on the HMRC end (all in the photographic evidence sent earlier) In summary I made the claim in complete good faith. HMRC had all my details before any payments were made. I would suggest that it was the incompetence of the person handling my claim that has created this nightmare for me. I would still like to proceed with the tribunal hearing.”
“Please see attached a letter from Atlantic Pacific Marine and from the accountant in Wales explaining my employment status. I hope that this clears a lot of the muddy water up for all parties, and shows that I was indeed self employed, as I am now. I only back back [sic] in the country on Saturday 1st June so I’ve had very little time to try and get things organised.”
“To whom this may concern, Atlantic Pacific Marine Ltd (APM) are a project management company. APM predominantly manage engineering projects onboard cruise ships which sail internationally. Typical projects would be concerned with the structure, pipework and electrics of the vessels. APM source labour from a subcontractor agency named Priority Accounts Ltd. Therefore, the tradesmen are not contracted by APM or Priority Accounts and just paid on a per project basis using their hours worked and agreed hourly rate. Typical projects range from a couple of days to a couple of months. I can confirm Mr Daniel Andrew Cotton is not an employee of APM and therefore does not have any related benefits including holiday pay, sick pay etc. Daniel has represented APM on many projects over the past few years and is paid as above through Priority Accounts Ltd.”
“FOR SUBMISSION TO THE TRIBUNAL SERVICES Dear Mr Cotton, We have been requested to confirm our understanding of your employment status. We have acted for you from January 2019 and formerly commenced to act for you in August 2020. Your position onboard a ship is of particular problems in that one can not be self employed on a vessel, being technically employed by the Captain. However, the terms of your contract with Atlantic Pacific means that you are sub-contracted to them to perform the duties as required, they having received instructions from the owners of the vessels concerned.”
“The purpose of SEISS is to provide for payments to be made to persons carrying on a trade the business of which has been adversely affected by the health, social and economic emergency in the United Kingdom resulting from coronavirus and coronavirus disease.”
“Assessments of income tax chargeable under paragraph 8 (1) If an officer of Revenue and Customs considers (whether on the basis of information or documents obtained by virtue of the exercise of powers under Schedule 36 to FA 2008 or otherwise) that a person has received an amount of a coronavirus support payment to which the person is not entitled, the officer may make an assessment in the amount which ought in the officer's opinion to be charged under paragraph 8 . (2) An assessment under sub-paragraph (1) may be made at any time, but this is subject to sections 34 and 36 of TMA 1970. (3) Parts 4 to 6 of TMA 1970 contain other provisions that are relevant to an assessment under sub-paragraph (1) (for example, section 31 makes provisions about appeals and section 59B(6) makes provision about the time to pay income tax payable by virtue of an assessment). …”
“… an employment (other than Crown employment) consisting of the performance of duties on a ship or of such duties and others incidental to them.”
“s.378(5) (a) taxable earnings under section 15, 22 or 26, or (b) general earnings- (i) to which section 27 applies, and (ii) which are for a period in which the employee is liable under the law of an EEA State (other than the United Kingdom) to tax in that State by reason of domicile or residence.” (i) to which section 27 applies, and (ii) which are for a period in which the employee is liable under the law of an EEA State (other than the United Kingdom) to tax in that State by reason of domicile or residence.”
“Bluntly, the clue is in the name, the Support Payment is only available to the self-employed.”
“…as the name of the scheme indicates, grants were only capable of being provided to those who were self-employed.”