‘The operating system used in the two tills according to the till man was developed bespoke … They are in the process of changing to off the shelf system as they are encountering several operational issues with the current one.’
‘We have reasons to believe the penalty is not appropriate considering the fact that you requested for a document which is NOT a statutory document. As requested in our correspondence dated the02/04/2015 . If you insist a bank statement is a statutory records evidence the legislature or legislation that state so. You fail to do that and instead proceeded to issuing the penalty. Because you fail to prove it is a statutory records you should not be charging as any penalty as such we believe the penalty has been wrongly and harshly issued. We hereby demand a cancellation of the penalty on the grounds of inappropriateness and unreasonableness. Should you be able to prove a bank statement is a statutory records you should let me know and i will relate to my client for reconsideration.’
‘Section 31(1) a Does not specifically mentioned Bank statement. It states business and accounting records. Business and accounting records are the records we used in preparing the business accounts ok? We DO NOT use the business bank statements in preparing the accounts simply because: 1. It is not mandatory 2. We do not do bank reconciliation which is also not mandatory 3. We are not using cash accounting method for vat and for preparing the accounts Because we are not using cash accounting vat method and also not doing bank reconciliation means our bank statement DO NOT form part of the statutory records. EMPHASIS on above which has been mention times and again! At this point i do think going to the tribunal is the best option considering you still fail to prove the bank statement is a statutory records …’
‘Do you pay for everything by cash?’
‘Statutory records are the record that tax law says a person must keep. All the following must be provided for the period01/02/2011 to31/10/2014 . All bank and/or building society books or statements, cheque book stubs and deposit book counterfoils for any account into which any income from the business or from which any expenditure form the business was paid during the period of the accounts. Record of daily takings.’
‘Shimlas … was visited for vat purposes on the 16/02/15. The business provided all its statutory records which are the main prime source of all it vat returns. This mainly were evidence of all input and out put vat records example till receipts for all sales. The business does not have a bank account as most of its transactions are cash based. It however use a “family accounts” for paying it vat only. Any other expenses (majority) is paid by cash.’
‘This family accounts has been used for other business like Desi shakes shimlas express and Newline furniture as all these business could not obtain bank accounts due to poor credit score. This said bank account contain other third parties which include the 3 directors of Shimlas, their father and several other businesses information which cannot be provided to HMRC for confidentiality reasons as those parties are not part of the enquirie.’
‘It is not clear on what basis HMRC require this information. My understanding is, they think the bank accounts should form part of Shimlas statutory records. If that is the case. Well that is plainly wrong. Section (sec 113-sec 128 of companies Act) clearly state what statutory documents. Clearly bank statement is not mentioned. They could have been right if the bank statement were used or aid us in preparing the business records. The fact is, the business does not do bank reconciliation or look at its statement at any point in time. It does not even have one of it own which has been used as such. A compromise might have been possible if the bank statement was reasonable required. However that is not the case as clearly stated in their correspondence they require the bank statement as they think it form part of the tax payer statutory records. Because we believe the statement does not form part of the business statutory records and HMRC do not reasonable require them as they could not have been reasonable required considering they have been provided with till receipts supporting the out put vat. As above we did not supply the bank statement due to all above and most importantly the business does not have one of it own use.’
‘Shimlas was charged a penalty for failing to provide a statement which HMRC wrongly construed as statutory records. Shimlas hereby appeal the penalty due to the following: 1. The required bank statement does not form part of the business statutory records. 2. The business does not even have a bank account for it own used 3. The business does not do bank reconciliation due to paragraph 2 above. 4. No bank accounts is even available as majority of the business is cash based 5. The business cannot simply provide what it does not have as above 2,3,4. 6. They are no reasonable grounds for requiring the bank accounts which contain 99 percent third party information. 7. We ask for prove that the bank statement is statutory. 8. HMRC fail to prove as 6 above. 9. No bank account is used or looked at during the business quarterly vat returns. (so not part of the statutory records)’
‘Clearly HMRC is empowered to request both statutory and non-statutory information/documents so long as the request is reasonable. The only distinction between formal requests for statutory records and formal requests for non-statutory records is that the former request is not appealable to a Tribunal.’
‘ 1 (1) An officer of Revenue and Customs may by notice in writing require a person (“the taxpayer”) – (a) to provide information, or (b) to provide a document, if the information or document is reasonably required by the officer for the purpose of checking the taxpayer’s tax position.’
‘ 29 (1) Where a taxpayer is given a taxpayer notice, the taxpayer may appeal against the notice or any requirement in the notice. (2) Sub-paragraph (1) does not apply to a requirement in a taxpayer notice to provide any information or produce any document, that forms part of the taxpayer’s statutory records. …’
‘ 32 (3) On an appeal that is notified to the tribunal, the tribunal may – (a) confirm the information notice or a requirement in the information notice, (b) vary the information notice or such a requirement, or (c) set aside the information notice or such a requirement. … (5) Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 11 and 13 of theTribunals, Courts and Enforcement Act 2007 a decision of the tribunal on an appeal under this Part of this Schedule is final.’
‘ 62 (1) For the purposes of this Schedule, information or a document forms part of a person’s statutory records if it is information or a document which the person is required to keep and preserve under or by virtue of – (a) the Taxes Acts, or (b) any other enactment relating to a tax, subject to the following provisions of this paragraph. (2) To the extent that any information or document that is required to be kept and preserved under or by virtue of the Taxes Act – (a) does not relate to the carrying on of a business, and (b) is not also required to be kept or preserved under or by virtue of any other enactment relating to a tax, it only forms part of the a person’s statutory records to the extent that the chargeable period or periods to which it relates has or have ended. (3) Information and documents cease to form part of a person’s statutory records when the period for which they are required to be preserved by the enactments mentioned in sub-paragraph (1) has expired.’
‘Duty to keep records (1) Every taxable person shall keep such records as the Commissioners may by regulations require … (2) Regulations under sub-paragraph (1) above may make different provision for different cases and may be framed by reference to such records as may be specified in any notice published by the Commissioners in pursuance of the regulations and not withdrawn by a further notice. (3) The Commissioners may require any records kept in pursuance of this paragraph to be preserved for such period not exceeding 6 years as they may specify in writing (and different periods may be specified by different cases). (4) The duty under this paragraph to preserve records may be discharged – (a) by preserving them in any form and by any means, or (b) by preserving the information contained in them in any form and by any means, subject to any conditions or expectations specified in writing by the Commissioners for Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs.’
‘Records (1) Every taxable person shall, for the purposes of accounting for VAT, keep the following records – (a) his business and accounting records, (b) his VAT account, (c) copies of all VAT invoices issued by him, (d) all VAT invoices received by him …’
‘This notice gives guidance on the records you must keep if you are registered for VAT.’ (2) At §2.3 it is stated that HMRC’s ‘view of business records is wide and will include … bank statements and paying-in slips’. (3) At §2.4 the duration for records to be kept is stated as: ‘Generally, you must keep all your business records for VAT purposes for at least six years. Records that you use for other tax purposes may need to be kept for longer periods.’
‘… the only avenue of appeal to the F-tT is that contained in para 29(1) and, since sub-para (2) precludes an appeal so far as the notice relates to statutory records, any appeal by a taxpayer against an information notice must be based on the premise that any document identified in the notice as part of his statutory record has been wrongly so identified, that the tribunal should determine that issue and, if he is right in his contention that the item does not form part of his statutory record, he should not be required to provide it, for one reason or another. A decision of the F-tT on the identification point, whichever way it falls, must therefore be a decision given on an appeal within para 29(1), and para 32(5) is accordingly engaged.’
‘The duty under this paragraph to preserve records may be discharged– (a) by preserving them in any form and by any means, or (b) by preserving the information contained in them in any form and by any means, …’