“The Judge has refused the application on behalf of the Claimant to add Four Seasons as an additional Respondent. There is no claim that the transfer was the reason (or principal reason) for the dismissal of the Claimant was any pending transfer. There is no evidence to support the contention that the employment continued after the dismissal on12 August 2011 pending the appeal. The Claimant would not therefore have been an affected employee within Regulation 4(3) of the 2006 Regulations at the date of the TUPE transfer and so any employment or liability in connection with employment would not pass to the transferee.”
“… I have come to the same conclusion. The principles I have applied are as follows: 1 Where there is a TUPE transfer (as here) the employment of employees employed immediately before the transfer is the subject of an automatic novation to the transferee. The Claimant was not employed immediately before the transfer. 2 That principle also covers employees who were dismissed before the transfer but where the reason for the dismissal was the transfer. That is not suggested to be the case here. 3 Any liability in respect of any employees who were dismissed before the transfer but for other reasons does not transfer to the transferee. That is the case here. 4 The fact of a pending appeal against dismissal does not mean that the employee was still employed for the purposes of the TUPE Regulations unless there is a contractual provision to the contrary. It is not suggested here that there is any such contractual provision. You have stated that ‘[t]here is copious statutory and common law support’ for your contention that the employment does continue, but you have not cited any. 5 The G4S Justice Services (UK) case is not support for that contention. It is support for the propositions that any obligation to consider an appeal remained with the dismissing transferor, and that if successful then the dismissal would vanish (following Roberts v South West Trains) and would then be the subject of the transfer to the transferee. 6 The fact (if it be a fact) that the Claimant may be deprived of a remedy due to the financial position of the Respondent does not affect the legal position.”
“(1) … a relevant transfer shall not operate so as to terminate the contract of employment of any person employed by the transferor and assigned to the organised group of resources or employees that are subject to the relevant transfer which would otherwise be terminated by the transfer. But any such contract shall have effect after the transfer as if originally made between the person so employed and the transferee. (2) Without prejudice to paragraph (1) but subject to paragraph (6) and Regulations 8 and 59 on the completion of a relevant transfer (a) all the transferors rights, powers, duties and liabilities under or in connection with any such contract shall be transferred by virtue of this Regulation to the transferee and; (b) any act or omission before the transfer is completed of or in relation to the transferor in respect of that contract or a person assigned to that organised grouping of resources or employee shall be deemed to have been an act or omission of or in relation to the transferee. (3) Any reference in paragraph (1) to a person employed by the transferor and assigned to the organised grouping of resources or employees that is subject to a relevant transfer is a reference to a person so employed immediately before the transfer or who would have been so employed if he had not been dismissed in the circumstances described in Regulation 7(1) including where the transfer is effective by a series of two or more transactions, a person so employed and assigned or who would have been so employed and assigned immediately before any of those transactions …”
“(1) Where either before or after a relevant transfer any employee of the transferor or transferee is dismissed, that employee shall be treated for the purposes of part 10 of the 1996 Act (Unfair Dismissal) as unfairly dismissed if the sole or principle reason for his dismissal is (a) the transfer itself or; (b) a reason connected with the transfer but is not an economic, technical or organisational reason entailing changes in the work force …”
“Since the Appellant had an outstanding appeal at the date of transfer she ought to been treated for the purposes of TUPE in effect as suspended.”
“Is an employee who has been dismissed by the transferor, but whose appeal is yet to be heard, employed in the undertaking that is transferred within the meaning of Regulation 5 of TUPE?”
“In our view where notice of immediate dismissal is given the dismissal takes immediate effect. The provisions of this contract as to the appeal procedure continue to apply. If an appeal is entered then the dismissed employee is to be treated as being, “suspended” without pay during the determination of his appeal in the sense that if the appeal is successful then he is reinstated and he will receive full back pay for the period of the suspension. If the appeal is not successful and it is decided that the original decision of instant dismissal is right and is affirmed, then the dismissal takes effect on the original date. In our view, that is the date on which the termination takes effect for the purposes of the act.”
“It will be recalled that the disciplinary procedure in Savage expressly provided for the contract to be suspended pending appeal.”
“What if the appeal is successful, the dismissal is overturned and the employee is reinstated?”
“What I draw from Roberts is the concept of the vanishing dismissal viewed retrospectively. Mr Roberts was dismissed at the time when he presented his complaint of unfair dismissal to the Tribunal, thus giving the Tribunal jurisdiction to hear that complaint. However, the dismissal vanished looking back as a result of the internal appeal which he had initiated.”
“It depended on whether the appeals against dismissal succeeded and reinstatement was ordered. GSL did uphold the appeals and revoked the earlier dismissal. The Claimants under TUPE were in no worse position than their colleague …”
“His propositions proceed on the premise that the contractual obligation to hear and determine the appeals lay with GSL not withstanding the transfer.”
“The transferor’s rights and obligations arising from a contract of employment or from an employment relationship existing on the date of a transfer shall by reason of such transfer to be transferred to the transferee.”
“The only workers who may invoke [the] Directive … are those who have current employment relations or a contract of employment at the date of transfer. The question whether or not a contract of employment or employment relationship exists at that date must be assessed under national law subject however to the observance of the mandatory rules of the Directive concerning the protection of workers against dismissal by reason of the transfer …”