"13 The tribunal accepted that Mr Griggs* had a belief in the fact that the claimant had wilfully damaged the screen which was the property of the respondent. 14. The tribunal decided that the respondents had not shown that they had reasonable grounds on which to sustain that belief. This finding was based in part on the inadequacies of the investigation which are referred to below. The tribunal asked itself the question on what basis did Mr Griggs decide whether the claimant had committed the misconduct. He said in evidence that he would never know what the cause of the accident was. It could have been that the claimant had accidentally broken the screen with her hand or knuckle and then tried to cover it up with her head. Mr Griggs was clearly contemplating this as a possibility at the time of the disciplinary hearing when he put it to the claimant as a possible explanation. However, if that was his ultimate conclusion, then he cannot show that he believed that the screen was broken wilfully. The letter of dismissal does not make it clear that he rejected this explanation as he mentions that the CCTV footage shows her: '..hitting ' the screen with her hand or fist and also her denial that this was deliberate. He also refers in the letter to the CCTV footage showing her head hitting the screen. In conclusion he says that her version of events does not add up and states his conclusions that she is guilty of causing wilful damage to Virgin property. Taken together with his evidence that he didn't think he would ever know what caused the screen to be broken, the tribunal concluded that the respondents had not shown that Mr Griggs had reasonable grounds on which to sustain the belief the claimant had committed the misconduct. 15. A further consideration on this question is the use of the term rough ride by Mr Griggs and his restriction of it to the most severe type of train movement and consequently his decision that the claimant could not have been jolted by a lesser movement, as she claimed to have been. If Mr Griggs would only accept that the claimant had been jolted by a train movement if there was evidence of the most severe type of train movement he was artificially restricting his consideration in an unreasonable manner. It is possible that a sudden movement of the train had caused the claimant to hit her head against the screen but Mr Griggs did not accept this. That in part was why he said he analysed the evidence in the way he did. 16. The third reason why the tribunal decided that the Respondent had failed to satisfy itself that it had reasonable grounds on which to sustain the belief, was the failure by Mr Hunt to forward the VT01 form and his subsequent decision that the incident could not have been caused by rough riding because there had been no report of rough riding. The fact that there was no report of rough riding because he had not submitted the VT01 form means that his decision to charge the claimant because the absence of a report of rough riding was a self fulfilling prophecy. 17. Turning to the investigation. The Tribunal considered that the size and resources of the respondent organisation are factors in considering appropriateness of investigation. Mr Griggs conceded that it might have been better if he had asked the witnesses whose evidence he considered what they understood the term rough ride to mean before deciding what their evidence showed. He also conceded that he should have made further investigations into the work done by the firm of consultants into ride quality in about March 2007. Mr Griggs also accepted that his enquiry would have been assisted if he had viewed CCTV footage from other parts of the train. 18. In terms of the investigation carried out by Mr Hunt, the obvious error is the failure by Mr Hunt to forward the report of the accident made by the claimant to the safety team using the VT01 form. The first time the claimant became aware of this failure and was able to challenge it was at the resumed hearing before the employment tribunal on5 March 2008 after it had ordered the respondents to disclose the second page of the report form. This showed that Mr Hunt had not completed it. The fact that Mr Hunt then told Mr Davies when asked in the catering meeting on 21 st February that there was no report of an accident shows his actions in a very bad light. 19. Mr Hunt did not investigate the propensity of the screens to break. This occurred to Mr Griggs latterly when he telephoned to speak to Mrs Coleman during the adjourned disciplinary hearing. The fact that he did not share all of the information which he obtained or put forward a statement or report from Mrs Coleman was in the Tribunal's view a mistake which rendered the investigation fatally flawed. The engineering evidence obtained by Mr Hunt was a note written by Mr Smith. In circumstances where the meaning of the term rough ride is not agreed, the causes of rough rides and other forms of movement are many and the quality of ride quality had recently been investigated. The tribunal considered that this investigation fell below the standard reasonably to be expected of an employer which is a train operating company in a case where an employee is being accused of an offence of exceptionally grave misconduct and in defending herself from that charge is raising issues concerning the cause of the accident which are capable of investigation from an engineering perspective. 20. This omission is all the more obvious when at the hearing the claimant provided Mr Griggs with evidence that a colleague had injured herself as a result of train movement and a driver had reported a defect of rough riding over a speed of 110 mph. Mr Griggs admitted that other than speaking to Mr Smith in a conversation of which there is no note and the contents of which were not shared with the claimant, he did not investigate this information. The tribunal did accept that an employer can decide what lines of enquiry to pursue in such investigations but in the particular circumstances of this case, the failure to look into this and bring the information before the hearing for the claimant to engage with, was a further fatal error. 21. The claimant was interviewed 3 times by Mr Hunt with no notice of any interview and was misled at the beginning of the first interview into believing that the purpose of the interview was a health and safety investigation into the accident. Many of the questions were repetitious. The questions were not neutral. The questions betrayed a disbelief in the claimant's description of events. The transcript of the interviews reads more like an interrogation. The claimant at one point said that she felt she was being bullied, brow beaten and harassed. The intention of Mr Hunt seemed to be to obtain a confession from her. When her representative objected and attempted to make a formal complaint of bullying he was told it was not his role to do so and the questions continued. The tribunal were quite clear that this was not appropriate. The manner in which Mr Hunt conducted the investigation including the interviews with the claimant contributed to the unfairness of the dismissal. Mr Knight conceded that at the point when Mr Davies made the formal complaint, the process should have been halted and the harassment procedure put into motion. 22. The tribunal considered that the appeal did not correct the problems which it identified with the decision to dismiss. This was because Mr Knight based his decision on a finding that there had been no rough ride and that therefore the accident had not been caused by an accident. 23. Mr Short asked the tribunal to consider the application of s. 98A(2) to the evidence in this case. His primary submission was that the procedure adopted and implemented by the respondent in this case was fair. He conceded that it would have been '.. preferable ' if Mr Knight had told the claimant what Mr Smith had said to him in the adjournment of the appeal hearing but his failure to do so did not render the dismissal unfair as this evidence was not material or significant and was after the event. He said that the claimant had not challenged the evidence of which she was aware that the respondents did not believe that there was any causal connection between the incident and the condition of the train. 24. He went on to say that even if the tribunal did find that the procedure was unfair, none of the defects with the procedure would have made any difference to the outcome because of what the CCTV footage showed. Even if some further evidence had been obtained by the respondent which showed that there had been rough riding on the date in question this would not have changed the conclusion reached by Mr Griggs that the accident was not caused by rough riding. The finding by Mr Griggs that the accident was not caused by movement of the train was, he said, '.. untouchable ' by evidence obtained subsequently about the subsequent condition of the train, according to Mr Short. 25. With respect to Mr Short the Tribunal did not accept this argument. The evidence showed that there had simply been no investigation into the suggestion that the accident could have been caused by sudden movement of the train, albeit less than what was accepted to mean rough ride. As stated at paragraph 6.35 above, Mr Griggs decided upon a particular meaning of rough ride and restricted his investigation into whether such type of ride quality had occurred that day on the train. This meant that he did not investigate whether the accident could have been caused by a movement of the train of a lesser severity than that indicated by the engineers when they used the term rough ride. In these circumstances, the Tribunal considered that it was not possible to say what the decision of the respondents might have been had they investigated this incident fully and in our view appropriately. They are therefore unable to show that they would have decided to dismiss the claimant in any event." [*Mr Grigg's name is "
"This is where I feel the inconsistencies are highlighted between what you can see occurring and what was said. The CCTV does not show when the screen was broken but if you look through the whole tape it does show Rachel touching the screen with both the palm of her hand and her fist. If I am to believe that Rachel broke the screen with her head then why is there no evidence of rough riding on the train. The report in the pack from Mark Smith confirms that there was no evidence of rough riding nor is there any evidence in the maintenance record for this train. This is also confirmed to me by viewing the alternative camera on the CCTV footage at the time Rachel banged her head as you cannot see any untoward movement. Also the CCTV clearly shows that throughout the whole incident Rachel was on the phone when her head had made contact with the screen."