"In relation to the prejudice which the employers say they will suffer if they participate. We should just simply say that that does seem to us to be a sustainable proposition, having regard to the decision of the Employment Tribunal on the jurisdiction issue."
"This appeal has no reasonable prospect of success. The ET Chairman was plainly wrong in exercising his discretion to postpone the hearing of Mr Turner's on its merits until after the determination by the EAT of the appeals on questions of jurisdiction and bias. As the ET held that it had jurisdiction it should proceed to determine the case and not await the outcome of the EAT against the jurisdiction decision."
"However, as we have pointed out to him in argument, there had been no appeal against the decision of Mummery LJ and in those circumstances it appears to us that the discretion of the Chairman and his colleagues on 24 May was properly exercised and that no appeal can succeed against the way that it was exercised in the circumstances. We therefore will not allow this appeal to go beyond this stage and dismiss it now"
"That is not as obvious to me as it appears to you. Why do you say that?"
"One needs to follow through, how did it come about that there was a hearing on the merits without Harada's participation in that hearing? It came about because Harada was contesting jurisdiction, it did not wish it to be said that it had in any way submitted to the jurisdiction of the tribunal."
"They have reserved their position."
"……we do not consider we have jurisdiction. Even if we did, it would not be right to make any ruling with respect to that order which therefore stands, subject to the question of jurisdiction."
"Accordingly, as it is agreed between the parties that all other matters have been determined and are res judicata, no further adjudication upon the merits as decided on25 May 1999 is required."
"The essence of the position is, in my opinion, that once the Employment Appeal Tribunal had, prior to the Ryan tribunal hearing, determined that it was fair and just to proceed to a hearing on the merits, notwithstanding a consideration of the article 18 argument, the respondents were entitled to rely upon that determination and contest the merits hearing. Alternatively, once the Ryan tribunal refused the renewed application for a postponement, the respondents were not compelled to be absent from that hearing, having made it perfectly clear what was their position. Therefore, although the respondents were absent, they were deliberately absent, and I do not see that ground for review could possibly be upheld."
"Apart from jurisdiction derived from other provisions of this Convention, a court of a Contracting State before whom a defendant enters an appearance shall have jurisdiction. This rule shall not apply where appearance was entered solely to contest the jurisdiction, or where another court has exclusive jurisdiction by virtue of Article 16"
"Article 18 of the Convention of27 September 1968 be interpreted as meaning that the rule on jurisdiction which that provision lays down does not apply where the defendant not only contests the court's jurisdiction but also makes submissions on the substance of the action, provided that if the challenge to jurisdiction is not preliminary to any defence as to the substance it does not occur after the making of the submissions which under national procedural law are considered to be the first defence addressed to the court seised."
"14 Although differences between the different language versions ofArticle 18 of the Convention appear when it is sought to determine whether, in order to exclude the jurisdiction of the court seised, a defendant must confine himself to contesting that jurisdiction, or whether he may on the contrary still achieve the same purpose by contesting the jurisdiction of the court as well as the substance of the claim, the second interpretation is more in keeping with the objectives and spirit of the Convention. In fact, under the law of civil procedure of certain Contracting States a defendant who raises the issue of jurisdiction and no other might be barred from making his submissions as to the substance if the court rejects his plea that it has no jurisdiction. An interpretation of Article 18 which enabled such a result to be arrived at would be contrary to the right of the defendant to defend himself in the original proceedings, which is one of the aims of the Convention. 15 However, the challenge to the jurisdiction may have the result attributed to it by Article 18 only if the plaintiff and the court seised of the matter are able to ascertain from the time of the defendant's first defence that it is intended to contest the jurisdiction of the court. 16. The Hof van Cassatie asks in this regard whether jurisdiction must be contested in limine litis. For the purposes of interpreting the Convention that concept is difficult to apply in view of the appreciable differences existing between the legislation of the Contracting States with regard to bringing actions before courts of law, the appearance of defendants and the way in which the parties in an action must formulate their submissions. However, it follows from the aim of Article 18 that if the challenge to jurisdiction is not preliminary to any defence as to the substance it may not in any event occur after the making of the submissions which under national procedural law are considered to be the first defence addressed to the court seised. 17. Therefore the answer to the second and thirds parts of Question 1 should be thatArticle 18 of the Convention must be interpreted as meaning that the rule on jurisdiction which that provision lays down does not apply where the defendant not only contests the court's jurisdiction but also makes submissions on the substance of the action, provided that, if the challenge to jurisdiction is not preliminary to any defence as to the substance, it does not occur after the making of the submissions which under national procedural law are considered to be the first defence addressed to the court seised."
"It would seem to be contrary to the spirit and intention of the Convention to place difficulties in the way of litigants. Substantial difficulties can arise in practice is a defendant is limited to entering an appearance on the question of jurisdiction alone. If he fails on that issue, he may deprive himself of the chance of contesting the claim against him on the merits or even on other procedural grounds. He cannot rely on those, either, if proceedings for enforcement of the judgment against him are begun in the state where he is or where he has asserts, sinceArticle 28 of the Convention provides, subject to exceptions, that the jurisdiction of the court of the state in which judgment is given may not be reviewed. Moreover cases can arise in which the jurisdictional point is complex but the point on the merits is short. It would seem an unattractive result that a defendant who desires to contest the jurisdiction should be barred from raising a point on the merits which could speedily be dealt with if he failed on jurisdiction. This is particularly so in a case where a defendant desires to secure property seised or threatened with seizure, not least in the commercial field. It is no less unattractive a result that a court which concludes in the course of argument that it does not have jurisdiction should be required to take jurisdiction merely because a defendant has, in entering an appearance, raised a subsidiary point on the merits or some other procedural objection."