"The evidence put forward by Mr Oberoi, and that put forward by Mr Ponzi, in particular, clashed on a number of points. Where there were such conflicts, the Tribunal preferred the evidence of Mr Oberoi. It had greater internal consistency, was inherently more credible, and was in accord with the contemporaneous documentation to a greater extent."
"…the person who appointed Mr Oberoi to the staff of the Company. Although Mr Ponzi had no formal managerial title, he was the representative of the shareholders in the parent company. It was clear that he was the controlling influence in the Company, and was effectively in managerial charge of its operations."
"I ….have …always accepted Mr Ponzi as the effective shareholder [of Cromas]" [that was the parent company or the company which Mr Ponzi had created] "and accepted his instructions as the instructions of the shareholder in all matters relating to the IPA Group ….Mr Ponzi insists on reserving decisions on staff matters to himself so that no employee can be recruited at any level without Mr Ponzi's express consent, nor can any employee be disciplined or dismissed without Mr Ponzi's approval. Likewise he makes all decisions regarding salary and salary reviews"
"On Friday 15 th May 1998 Mr Oberoi instructed me to ensure that a consignment for a distributor named Athena Associates was shipped that day. Mr Oberoi told me that the consignment was to be sent to Germany where it would be collected by an engineer who would take it to Nigeria for installation there. I had heard of the name Athena as a distributor but I had no knowledge of who they were or of any of their representatives. I certainly did not know that they operated from the residential address of John Cundy. I knew John, of course, as he also worked under Mr Oberoi. If I had known that Athena was operating from John Cundy's home, I would have regarded it with suspicion and would have felt obliged to mention the matter to someone in authority."
"I see paragraph 12 of my statement. It was not correct to say I was unaware of the connection. I was unaware of Mr Oberoi's association. He advised that Athena was owned by Cundy. I didn't think it was common knowledge. I thought it was confidential. I received reward from Oberoi in the course of my job. It ranged from cigarettes to cash. I got it because I was handling shipping for Athena. The gifts were for me to continue and to keep it confidential. Ponzi did not feature in this. I felt under duress. I was told Ponzi wanted to sack me and the inference was Manbir Oberoi would protect me. I took it very seriously."
"I agree that my version was changed after Mr Cundy's statement was sent to the Respondent's solicitors on29 November 1999 …..I was shown the documents. Then I changed my mind about what I should say. I heard you gave Mr Lawrence gifts. I know you gave other employees gifts. I didn't know why. I agreed we have worked at night. You occasionally ask me to stay. A lot of the time I wanted to stay. You did tell me I could go home. Mr Oberoi: How much money did I pay? You paid by cash. I did not register the payments. I was not put under pressure to retract or to say I was not put under pressure. I did lie on oath. You did not put pressure on me. Mr Oberoi: It is a total lie, isn't it? Not true. I did lie the first time to protect my position and that of colleagues. I am also trying to protect my position now. But I'm not lying. Mr Oberoi: To keep your job? Not true this time. I did not expect to have a job at the end of this Tribunal. Mr Oberoi: So this is your last straw? No. I made a grave error of judgment to protect my position and that of my colleagues. I obviously now have to withdraw. Mr Oberoi: did I give gifts to you and other colleagues for working late? That is possible. You could be generous. You also gave me cash. It varied from£200 to£500 . I can't say how many times. I did not declare it in my tax returns."
"Manbir Oberoi is my line manager. I did not consider telling anyone. It was futile. Action would be taken against me. Ponzi or Baker would have dismissed me in preference to Manbir, for some other reason. I don't believe there was any money fraudulently removed from the company. Things were sold at distributors prices and you are not interested in end user. I was aware I was telling lies last time. I left without changing it. The document presented by Manbir was shown to me. It showed paragraph 12 to be untrue. It is a fax with my writing on it. I saw the document yesterday. I did not see it as a document in this case until Mr Sutton showed me. I believe I would have been dismissed in preference to Oberoi. I knew about some of Oberoi's language and behaviour. He could be generous and volatile and forceful. People vary - he shouted and screamed. It was never aimed at me."
"There was no direct evidence in rebuttal of Mr Oberoi's evidence that he did not take the laptop referred to in paragraph 4(g) above. We bore in mind that Mr Oberoi had been escorted off the premises by men hired by the Company. We were not prepared to accept the evidence of Mr Thorne as contradicting Mr Oberoi's evidence on the laptop for two reasons. First, Mr Oberoi's evidence was clear, credible and related to matters within his direct knowledge. Second, Mr Thorne had previously (during the liability hearing in this case) admitted lying to the Tribunal on a point of major substance."
"Where there has been a conflict of evidence in an industrial tribunal hearing on a significant issue of fact, the tribunal's view of the evidence had to be plain from a reading of the tribunal's decision as a whole; and that, since no such finding on conflicting evidence in the present case was expressed in or could reasonably be implied from the tribunal's decision, the tribunal had erred in law and the case would be remitted to another industrial tribunal for hearing"