"On reaching ground level I was met by the ships supervisor, Mr Ken Jones who told me there was a dispute about overtime payments and I should go to the canteen and wait for Mr Bradley senior to arrive to sort it out. At this point it was the first time I was aware of any overtime dispute, as such I totally refute the statement of Mr B Bradley" (We will come to that statement in just a moment.) The statement goes on: "
'I don't care. You're sacked anyway, along with your brother.'
"I was very disappointed by what had happened and I complained they had not used set procedures and I had warned them for the last time and told them that I did not have a job for them at that point. In my mind I dismissed them at that point. The 5 never told me why they had walked off the ship. I went to the Liverpool Cargo Handling Office to see Mr Jones and Mr Carmichael. I apologised to them for the men's behaviour and told them I had dismissed the 5 men. It subsequently transpired that I was informed by George Gordon that these 5 men had left the ship shortly after 3 pm. Normal procedure was to finish a ship if that lasted shortly after 4pm which was the normal finishing time, and they would receive in blocks of 2 hours overtime. So if they worked for 5 of 10 times over 4pm they would get 2 hours pay."
"On Monday, 25 th September, five men walked off a ship over an hour's overtime. They did not follow any procedures whatsoever and were told that they were sacking themselves. Others then followed and we then had a situation of the whole of the workforce being dismissed."
"4 Mr Tony Helm signalled me to come down. He was one of the 5 who was dismissed. There was no conversation. While in the crane everyone was getting off the ship. He signalled me down to get off the ship. He walked off to the canteen. I climbed down. I was one of the last to leave the ship because of the time it took to get down from the crane. 5. In the canteen I asked them what it was all about. About 25 Torside men were on the ship. Everybody left. A lot just stood on the quayside talking among themselves. When I got there, there were 8 or 10 from the Sygna. The pickets started when I started, Tuesday afternoon I think. I expected an appeal. (He adds because he is being questioned by Mr Bradley Junior) I thought 'Your Dad was annoyed, understandably so, but he would come back and say, "
"On 25 September the Jenkins brothers, both Applicants walked off the Sygna. They were two of the 5 who walked off the ship. I spoke to the managers at the Canada Dock. They said they had walked off. The witness was referred to Paragraph 23 of his statement and stated the managers were on the quay. The shift would normally end at 4.00pm. It was near enough 3.20pm when I was told about the dispute. It was not after 4pm when I talked to the men in the canteen. I was back in my own office by 4.00pm."
"I'll pull the rest out"
"I did not ask what this problem was. I already knew. I was continually getting people stopping jobs and walking off against procedure."
"Jason Jenkins did not need to be in work. He made a swap with one man. He swapped with someone who was going to work his two hours for him. The shift was not over when I sacked them. He had switched with a lad named S(?) who did not want to work having joined his brother at 4 pm. He swapped during the shift. I sacked them on the spot."
"(c) On25 September 2995 , the applicant Mr Jason Jenkins, with others who have not made a complaint, were working on a ship, the Sygna, berthed at Canada Dock. They were joined by Mr Jenkins's brother, John. He had been engaged elsewhere, but he switched duties with a colleague to come to the Sygna. The 5 were being supervised by an employee of MDHC. He told them, wrongly, that they would be paid less than they knew was their entitlement for the overtime needed to complete the work on the Sygna. Shortly after 3 pm, they left the ship in protest about the proposed underpayment. They went on to the canteen on Canada Dock. Mr Bradley senior arrived at about 3.20 pm, having been told what had happened. He was angry, accused them of not using the set procedures and dismissed them. They were in no doubt they were dismissed. (d) The 3 applicants were due to work on the Sygna beyond the normal finishing time of 4 pm. They would thus have been entitled to 2 hours' pay, however much less than 2 hours they actually worked; such was the operative agreement. Mr Bradley senior knew that they were so entitled and would have paid them what they claimed. There had shortly before been a similar incident and the employees' right had been vindicated. There was a procedure for dealing with disputes of this kind. They took action, stopping work, before the dispute came within the purview of their union. The action was clearly industrial action, a withdrawal of their labour with a view to affirming what they perceived as a threatened right. Equally clearly, the action was unofficial: they were dismissed before any official of the union knew about their action. (e) After the 5 men off the Sygna had been dismissed, the applicant Mr Jason Jenkins told Mr Bernard Bradley that in the circumstances he would "get the rest of the men out. Mr Bradley saw that all the other people working on the Canada Dock had stopped work and were gathering round the 5 who had been dismissed. Mr Bradley pleaded with them to return to work. The alternative, he said, was no jobs for anybody. That evening, he learnt from his son, John, one of the dockers, that none of the men had gone back to work. He hoped that Mr Dempsey, the full-time officer of TGWU, would next day sort out the mess."
"An employee has no right to complain of unfair dismissal if at the time of the dismissal he was taking part in an unofficial strike or other unofficial industrial action"
"Their application to the facts (a) The 5 (including the 2 appellants) who walked off the Sygna did not do so on the authority of the shop stewards. At the time of their dismissal they had not received the endorsement of the shop stewards. (b) Thus theirs was unofficial action and they do not have the right to make a complaint of unfair dismissal."