"It is the substance of that telephone call which is the main issue in this case."
"I'll have to finish you", meaning that Mr Holden would have to terminate the applicant's employment."
"At no time was the statement made by Mr J Holden that `I'll have to finish you'"
"Later that day, [ that is the day of the telephone conversation ] as asked by Mr Holden the applicant sent in his medical certificate and in the letter he also asked for his P45. [ The Tribunal commented ] That really was the crucial point."
"Dear Sirs,
"Dear Sirs,
"7. We find that the applicant ceased to be entitled to sickness benefit on 29 August as a result of the certificate from his doctor dated 25 August. As the respondents had no light work available for him, he needed Unemployment Benefit and we find that he resigned from his job in order to get it. He had to show he was unemployed and that was the reason why he asked for his P45."
"We have considerable sympathy for the applicant in this case, but we have to look at it and decide on the evidence. Our conclusion in that Mr Bates resigned from his employment by his letter asking for his P45 and was not dismissed. As he was not dismissed he cannot claim unfair dismissal and the application is dismissed."
"The Applicant makes the point that in form IT3 the Respondent had made no reference whatsoever to any speculation as to the reasons for the Applicant's alleged resignation. If such speculation had appeared in form IT3 then the Applicant would have had the opportunity to answer such speculation and request documentation in possession of the Respondent and third parties relevant to this question. Neither did the Respondent adduce any evidence or make any suggestion during the course of the hearing as to such matters. The speculation, in fact, was first made by the Tribunal itself when it presented its decision following the hearing.
"Easy life - colleagues don't agree after receiving 26 August saw employment lady she'd asked me to write to Company and ask for P45. Why ask this if already dismissed. Advised to write to Company asking for P45 letter 25/8. If dismissed would send without asking. Not dismissed? Yes - you know you did."