"The third matter, which has concerned us most in the procedure. The central criticism is that although the applicant had ample opportunity to explain his case and knew in some detail the nature of the allegations made against him as is apparent from the contentions he put forward, he did not have the opportunity personally to be present when witnesses were interviewed or to question them. Although he did have representatives present, although it is clear that they did not cross-examine those witnesses."
"It was reasonable of the employers to decide not to follow their disciplinary procedure in this regard and not to allow the appellant to be present when witnesses were interviewed. We are assisted in this by the fact that his trade union representative knew what was happening and never objected. The [employers] were concerned firstly that having the appellant present would cause a shouting match and secondly, that there would be embarrassment, particularly for Mrs X in having to make these allegations in the presence of the appellant. It may be that another course was open to the employers. It may be that another manager would have decided it was appropriate that the appellant should have the opportunity to question the person who was putting his job at risk, but we have come to the conclusion that although the employers did not follow their disciplinary [procedure] in this regard, that in itself is not sufficient to render the dismissal unfair."
"... what has occurred is not simply a procedural error which could be excused but a fundamental error affecting the whole of the disciplinary procedure. ... it is not a question of judging whether the employer acted reasonably but, having found ... significant procedural failures in breach of the Appellant's contractual rights the only proper conclusion would have been that the appellant was unfairly dismissed."
"Each case must must depend upon its own facts. In our judgment it is unwise for this court of the Employment Appeal Tribunal to set out guidelines and wrong to make rules and establish presumptions for industrial tribunals to follow or take into account when applying [ and then they refer to paragraph 6(8) and the reference is now to Section 57(3) ] ... In most cases, if not all, a failure to comply with such an agreement [ an agreed procedure ] would be a factor to be taken into account; but the weight to be given to it would depend on the circumstances. An industrial tribunal should not base its decision on reasoning to the effect that because there has been a failure to comply, the dismissal must have been unfair."
"... the Court of Appeal emphasised the importance, with regard to internal appeals, of addressing the fact that an employee has not been accorded the right of appeal to which he was contractually entitled. It is not a question of looking at the reasonableness of the actions of the council."