‘ We feel that it would be helpful for us to speak to your legal representative before the hearing and then allow the legal representative to spend time talking to you.’
‘I didn’t think it was a good idea to have this discussion in front of him. I thought best to speak to you. Leave it to you to speak to him. He may insist on going ahead. If he does we are where we are. It could go ahead but the outcome may not be what he wants. If he goes ahead and fails if he fails in his application he could spend another 12 to 18 months locked up. If things go according to plan we could be in a better state in 6 months.’
‘ We wanted to speak to you because we are quite concerned about the position we find ourselves in with [the Applicant]. We are struggling to see how we can progress this hearing without a proper risk management plan which has been tested properly. One of the problems we have is that [the Applicant] doesn’t even have s. 17 leave to the community. It has not yet been approved by the [Ministry of Justice] MOJ. We are not in a position where he could go out and be tested. We wondered what your position was about that.’
‘it is a notional conditional discharge if he were not detained because of his prison sentence he would not be able to leave hospital. It is really unfortunate that the tribunal has exceeded its responsibility. It is not a matter for the Mental Health Tribunal. They should not have said that he didn’t need testing in the community. That is not a matter for them it is for us. The basis that we assess release is very different. The Mental Health Tribunal has said that he is compliant with treatment and therefore doesn’t need to be detained for treatment within the Mental Health Act. Even that is questionable because he did stop taking his medicine. Normally when we do these cases we come to a situation when the prisoner has been going on extensive leave we have reports by people from the leave placement. Properly tested.’
‘We appreciate that the COM thinks she has a risk management plan but we think it is unrealistic. He needs a proper assessment from the local authority about accommodation and community support. He needs somewhere to go and he needs to be able to go on leave to that placement and come back before the panel with a well worked up release plan.’
‘He has hardly had any escorted leaves. Visit to [a family member] and then visit to the hospital when he tried to abscond. On that basis no way that we could direct his release today. (my emphasis) I did the MCA. I sent it to a hearing quickly as I knew this would be an issue’