"Win. This means that Your Claim is decided in your favour either by a Final Court Decision or by an agreement which in either case pays you Damages or Provisional Damages that are to be paid by any one or more of the persons or bodies who are described in this Agreement as Your Opponent."
"… or any other person or body to whom we submit a claim on your behalf whether or not court proceedings are issued against that person or body."
"This is your claim against Dr Athreya [GP] or any other person seeking Damages for personal injury caused by clinical negligence."
"We have set the percentage of 100% of the Basic Charges. [That means their basic profit costs in the event of success would be raised by 100%.] We are not permitted by law to set it at more than 100%. The percentage at which we have set the Success Fee reflects our assessment of your prospects of success in pursuing Your Claim at the time we entered into this Agreement and the fact that if you Lose we will not earn anything. It does not reflect the fact that if you Win we will not be paid the Basic Charges until our work is finished."
"Our assessment of your prospects of success in pursuing Your Claim at the date we signed this Agreement include the following [then there is a series of lettered sub clauses, nine in all]: (a) the fact of success or failure will depend to a considerable degree upon the extent to which the court will be willing to accept your account of the history of your treatment, the injury which you have suffered and the surrounding circumstances."
"We can end this Agreement at any time if we no longer believe that you are likely to Win. If that happens you will only have to pay us the Expenses. These will include the barrister' fees of any barrister who does not have a conditional fee agreement with us but will not include the interest referred to in paragraph 42 of this Agreement."
"Subject to paragraph 17.8(2), when the court is considering the factors to be taken into account in assessing an additional liability, it will have regard to the facts and circumstances as they reasonably appeared to the solicitor or counsel when the funding arrangement was entered into and at the time of any variation of the arrangement."
"The issue that I have got to decide is with regard to the level of success fee."
"3. The success fee was set at 100 per cent. A risk assessment is set out in paragraph 36 of the conditional fee agreement, which sets out nine different factors, of which the first eight are all, as Mr Marven says, pro forma and can apply to any case. The only one which appears to be pertinent is condition (i) which says: 'In particular we are concerned that it may not be possible to establish any breach of the duty because the symptoms reported to your general practitioner may not have been indicative of a serious condition and also that it may not may not have resulted in any improvement in the symptoms.' It seems to me that at the time of the risk assessment only proceedings against Dr Athreya [the GP] were being contemplated. "4. Mr Marven [who appeared for the first defendant and who appeared in this court for the first defendant] says that the CFA says that the solicitors are entitled to be paid, as long as there is success against someone. He says that estimating the risks on a 50/50 case, which will entitle to a 100 per cent success fee, is clearly over-pessimistic. There was a nurse adviser who made the assessment and she should know something about whether there was likely to be a risk and she was perhaps more expert than the normal solicitor and therefore would be more qualified to assess the risks in a better way."
"5. There seemed to be, on the face of it, evidence that something had gone wrong [that is with the patient's medical care] and he also refers to the fact that success fee of 100 per cent was claimed against the second defendant [the hospital] before that second defendant had been identified. He, as does Mr Sorrell, [I gather he would have been for the second defendant at that stage, although Mr Post appears for the second defendant before us] refers me to the case of KU v Liverpool City Council in which the court encouraged parties to enter into CFAs that provide for a two stage success fee and indicated that if this is done there would be a much greater chance of recovering a high success fee should the matter progress towards trial. 6. Mr Filtness says that at the time they did not know whether they were going to be able to establish any claim against anyone, one cannot look at the question in hindsight and there are difficulties in establishing cases of negligence. These are difficult cases, there were risks and 100 per cent is completely justified. 7. I have to say that the decision in KU seems to me to be especially pertinent in this case. As I put it to Mr Filtness, if 100 per cent is going to be claimed on cases of this nature with no staging, it seems to me that every case that comes to his client's firm will generate a 100 per cent success fee because at the time of course there is no evidence because a client comes in and will make a statement and all the factors that have been set out in the CFA will apply, and clearly at that stage they have got no information other than what they have been told by the claimant. The fact that the second defendant had not been identified and there was no risk assessment even made against the second defendant and that the risk assessment came under the general heading seems to me a perfect illustration as to why a staged success fee is appropriate and as the Court of Appeal said that solicitors are much more likely to achieve 100 per cent success fee if they have provided in their agreement that there should be a staged success fee just in case there is a position where cases do not go to trial, and where the risk throughout seems to diminish. In a case that I suggested where the second defendants had, say, accepted liability immediately, nevertheless a claim for 100 per cent success fee would have been made against them and that, it seems to me, is not reasonable. 8. It must be appropriate there is a staged success fee otherwise it seems to me that practically every case, except where a client comes to a solicitor with an admission of liability, the solicitor will be able to claim 100 per cent success fee, which I think defeats the whole object of success fees. I think that a staged success fee would have been appropriate in this case and therefore I do not think it is reasonable to allow a 100 per cent success fee. 9. This was a very widely drawn CFA. I think that Mr Marven and Mr Sorrell are correct when they say that the solicitors were over-pessimistic about the possibility of success in the case. I accept that there were difficulties and they are not allowed to use the benefit of hindsight, but in the absence of there being a staged success fee I am going to set the success fee at 67 per cent, which I think is reasonable."
" The success fee was set at 100 per cent. A risk assessment is set out in paragraph 36 of the conditional fee agreement, which sets out nine different factors, of which the first eight are all, as Mr Marven says, pro forma and can apply to any case. The only one which appears to be pertinent is condition (i) which says: …" [Is the one which I have read, concerning whether there was an indication of a serious illness and possible difficulties of causation]."
"When a court has to assess the reasonableness of a success fee it must have regard to the facts and circumstances as they reasonably appeared to the solicitor at the time when the CFA was entered into. [He citespractice direction 11 .7 and a case called Atack v Lee .] The principle that the use of hindsight is not permitted when costs are being assessed is an old one [and he cites authority for that and he also quotes from a judgment of Megarry J in The Duchess of Argyll v Beuselink , again a case where the facts are far removed both from KU and this one.] Megarry J said in that case: "
"In October 2001 the claimant's solicitor would not have had access to the post-2001 evidence or other material cited in paragraphs 12-16 above. When deciding upon a success fee he had two choices. He could have taken the view that this claim would probably settle without fuss at a reasonably early stage, but he wished to protect himself against the risk that the claim might go the full distance and might eventually fail. In those circumstances he could select the two-stage success fee discussed by this court in Callery v Gray . In this situation he would be willing to restrict himself to a low success fee if the case settled within the protocol period -- or within such other period, perhaps until the service of the defence, as he might choose -- and to have the benefit of a high success fee for the cases which did not settle early. As things turned out, he would have benefited on the facts of this case if he had adopted this course: a high two-stage success fee would have been more readily defensible in a case which did not settle until proceedings were quite far advanced. "
"We must therefore consider the reasonableness of the single-stage success fee on this basis. Although Mr Williams, who appeared for the claimant, cautioned us to be aware that we lacked the local know-how that would be readily available to district judges in Liverpool, we must do the best we can on this re-hearing on the evidential material the parties provided to us. "
"In our judgment an appropriate single-stage success fee would have been 50% in this case. On the hypothesis that winning and losing claims are of equal weight, this would reflect a 2:1 chance of success. This, incidentally, represents a figure that is closer to the chances of success shown in the Pascoe Pleasance study [which he then refers to]."
"Mr Marven says that the CFA says that solicitors are entitled to be paid, as long as there is success against someone. He says that estimating the risk of a 50/50 case, which will entitle you to a 100 per cent success fee, is clearly over-pessimistic."
"There seemed to be, on the face of it, evidence that something had gone wrong and he also refers to the fact that success fee of 100 per cent was claimed against the second defendant before that second defendant had been identified. [That is true enough.] He, as does Mr Sorrell, refers me to the case of KU v Liverpool City Council in which the court encouraged parties to enter into CFAs that provide for a two stage success fee and indicated that if this is done there would be a much greater chance of recovering a high success fee should the matter progress towards trial."
"Mr Filtness says that at that time they did not know whether they were going to be able to establish any claim against anyone, and one cannot look at the question in hindsight and there are difficulties in establishing cases of negligence. These are difficult cases, there were risks and the 100 per cent is completely justified."
"I have to say the decision in KU seems to me especially pertinent in this case."
"8. It must be appropriate there is a staged success fee otherwise it seems to me that practically every case, except where a client comes to a solicitor with an admission of liability, the solicitor will be able to claim 100 per cent success fee, which I think defeats the whole object of success fees. I think that a staged success fee would have been appropriate in this case and therefore I do not think it is reasonable to allow a 100 per cent success fee. 9. This was a very widely drawn CFA. I think that Mr Marven and Mr Sorrell are correct when they say that the solicitors were over-pessimistic about the possibility of success in the case. I accept that there were difficulties and they are not allowed to use the benefit of hindsight, but in the absence of there being a staged success fee I am going to set the success fee at 67 per cent, which I think is reasonable."