“18. The claimants have permission to call the following expert witnesses in respect of the following issues: (a) Ms Katerina Hoey of Probin-Miers, an architect, to give evidence in relation to the adequacy of the design and construction of the property at Beechmere, in particular features which were designed to prevent the spread of fire. (b) Mr Peter Wise of HKA, a fire engineer, to give evidence as to the adequacy of the fire strategy, whether the relevant elements of the design of Beechmere complied with the Building Regulations in force at the time of the project, and whether the design of Beechmere should have included sprinklers and, if so, what difference their inclusion would have made to the spread of fire. … (d) Ms Sarah Hooton, a forensic scientist, to give evidence in relation to the cause, origin and spread of the fire at Beechmere. (e) A firefighting expert, to give evidence in relation to causation and the actions of the fire service ... … 24. In respect of any expert evidence permitted under paragraph 18 to 23: … (c) Liability and causation experts’ joint statements in accordance with rule 35.12(3) to be prepared and filed by 4pm on21 October 2022 . (d) Liability and causation experts’ reports, limited to those issues in dispute, to be served by 4pm on9 December 2022 …”
“20. Sarah Hooton is the Claimants' expert dealing with cause, origin and spread of the fire. She is a forensic engineer with specific experience in design and construction defects in fire protection provisions in buildings. Her expertise includes the investigation of the cause of fires in residential and commercial premises and the impact of design/construction details on fire spread. She is also a fire engineer. 21. The issues that Ms Hooton dealt with are at the absolute heart of this case. They included (i) how and when and where the fire started (ii) the initial spread of the fire up into the roof space above Flat 131, (iii) the spread of the fire beyond that into the compartment above the staircase and (iv) the spread of the fire into the roof above Flat 132, towards the front of the building and laterally into the space above the corridor adjacent to those two flats.”
“33. Ms Hooton has played a pivotal role on behalf of the Claimants in the litigation. She was initially instructed on behalf of the Claimants on16 August 2019 , just 8 days after the fire. 34. Ms Hooton inspected Beechmere's sister site, Willowmere, on20 August 2019 ; and led a three-day intrusive investigation at Beechmere with 20-25 experts from interested parties in November 2019. Ms Hooton undertook a further two-day site investigation at Beechmere prior to its demolition in January 2020. 35. Ms Hooton interviewed the resident of Flat 131 (which is next to the patio on which hot works were undertaken on the day of the fire), Mr David Scott, in February 2020 to discuss the origin and detection of the fire. This, coupled with her first-hand knowledge of the defects observed at the remaining South-Eastern wing at Beechmere and its sister site, Willowmere, enabled her to give invaluable input into the letters of claim sent to the Defendants in March 2020. 36. Given that the Claimants' case is primarily one of fire spread, the Claimants' statements of case were prepared with substantial input from Ms Hooton who advised on the location of defects (observed from her site inspections) and the significance of those defects on the speed, spread and path of the fire.”
“79. Mr Wise's colleague, Mr Peter Todd, carried out the analysis with respect to sprinkler capability. Mr Todd is a sprinkler design engineer with more than 45 years of experience in sprinkler design and installation project management. Mr Todd is not, however, a fire engineer. 80. As the Claimants' primary expert on matters of fire spread, with a comprehensive knowledge and understanding of the facts that frame those issues, Ms Hooton had considered all aspects of this topic, including fire strategy. On25 October 2022 , the Claimants requested the Defendants' consent to a draft application that she replace Mr Wise ... The draft application was ultimately overtaken with settlement negotiations. 81. In the same way, as the Claimants' proposed replacement expert on matters of fire spread, Dr Ketchell will be considering all of the matters which Ms Hooton has considered. Indeed, Dr Ketchell will have the advantage of considering these issues in the context of both cause and the spread of the fire more generally. He is qualified to deal with all of these issues. Accordingly, the Court would benefit from hearing from just one expert from the Claimants on these overlapping issues, rather than two. Dr Ketchell would be assisted by Mr Todd in relation to sprinkler capability.”
“7. Mr Wise has produced 3 reports. 8. My firm has been clear of two things: (i) that there is considerable overlap between the evidence from the forensic expert (at that time, Ms Hooton; now Dr Ketchell) and that of Mr Wise, and (ii) that the Claimants' preference is to rely upon the forensic expert evidence, which takes into account the broader context of the spread of the fire more generally: see RPC’s email to the Defendants dated25 October 2022 … 9. The court will, I hope, understand that the Claimants are reluctant to go into detail as to the reasons for that preference in advance of a decision as to whether to permit them to rely upon Dr Ketchell instead of Mr Wise. Plainly, if that application were to be rejected, the Claimants would be obliged to continue to rely upon Mr Wise. It would not be appropriate to address the extent to which the Claimants have or have not been assisted by Mr Wise's reports or as to the content of those reports. As set out below, in the event that the application is successful, the Claimants accept that those reports should be disclosed as a condition of the permission they seek. And the parties will at that point see the substance of what Mr Wise says in them. 10. I can, however, outline the other concerns that my clients have as to the evidence of Mr Wise. These stem principally from the fact that the Claimants have had the benefit of the views of the other experts on matters within their respective remits. Mr Wise has expressed views on matters that are more properly covered by those other experts. For privilege reasons, I do not want to refer to the content of the views of those other experts. However, I can say that, as a result of the extent of Mr Wise’s expression of views, there is a potential for conflict. Moreover, it is also relevant that the views of the Claimants’ other experts have been given following careful and detailed review of the documents. Mr Wise has not undertaken a full review of those documents. In some relevant respects, the Claimants consider that the matters in question fall more properly within the expertise of the other experts, rather than that of Mr Wise.”