“By 23.9.05 the parties’ architectural experts (Peter Blockley for the Claimants and Frank Cleveland for the Defendants) do meet without prejudice and prepare a statement of the issues upon which they are agreed and those upon which they are not agreed with a brief statement of the reasons for the disagreement.”
“Paragraph 6 is okay save that we do not agree that it is appropriate to have an order that there is a joint statement of issues agreed, etc. That was not discussed. We do not have an issue with it in principle, but it could add significant costs. What was ordered was a meeting on site to discuss the Scott Schedule with a proposal that the experts report to their instructing solicitors. We are happy to talk nearer the time about whether they can usefully do more and even in terms of some sort of joint statement but not an Order at this stage.”
“I am happy with all your proposed amendments to the draft with the exception of the question whether the experts should produce a joint statement (CPR 25.12 (3)). My understanding at the hearing and Andrew Hennesey’s [his solicitor] was that the judge intended there to be such a statement but we have neither of us got a note that puts the matter beyond doubt. We think that a joint statement would be desirable for the following reasons: (a) Without one there will potentially be grave problems at any settlement discussions if we are not certain what the respective positions of the experts are after their meeting. (b) Since a joint statement is likely to be required in any event we think that it would be desirable that it be drawn up while the experts’ discussions are still fresh in their memories. (c) A joint statement will be essential before the experts come to write their reports. Obviously we do not want them to waste time on matters which are not in issue between them, but unless there is a statement they will not be able to refer to their discussions.”
“By 23.9.05 the parties’ architectural experts (Peter Blockley for the Claimants and Frank Cleveland for the Defendants) do meet without prejudice and prepare a statement of the issues upon which they are agreed and those upon which they are not agreed with a brief statement of the reasons for the disagreement.”
“On 19.7.05 Mr. Bacon (Counsel for the Claimants) and I (Counsel for the Defendant) appeared before Judge Thornton QC on a restored CMC in the above case. We have almost reached agreement on the order that we would like the learned judge to make, but there is one matter that separates us, namely whether the experts should prepare a joint statement after they have met pursuant toCPR 35.12 .3. The Claimants would prefer that they don’t and the Defendants would prefer that they do.”
“27. I would finally observe that the Defendant relied in part for its contentions on the suggested fact that the order requiring the two experts to make a joint statement was made under the provisions ofCPR 35.12 (3) which provides that the court may direct that following a discussion the experts must prepare a statement for the court. This showed, it was contended, that the joint statement had a dual purpose and was not privileged in the context of the court seeing the contents of the statement during the subsequent stages of the litigation. 28. However, the wording of the relevant direction set out above does not refer toCPR 35.12 (3) but merely to the preparation of ‘a statement’ (not ‘a joint statement’). The Defendant had sought wording which required a joint statement to be prepared under the provisions ofCPR 35.12 but those additional provisions were omitted from the direction. This consideration is not of course conclusive either way since the relevant consideration is what was agreed by the two experts and what was their authority as to the status of the document they had signed and as to whether that document could have a double purpose which could result in the privilege being lifted if the other purpose was its use in the mediation.”
“At the CMC on19th July 2005 the parties’ respective experts were tasked with producing a joint statement in advance of mediation. Mr. Cleveland returned to work on 15th August and only managed to pick up Mr. Blockley’s e-mails after speaking with Mr. Blockley yesterday. As we mentioned immediately after the CMC on19th July 2005 Mr. Blockley is unavailable from 3rd September to6th October 2005 . The experts are unable to meet until25th August 2005 and are concerned as to whether a joint statement can now be finalised in a form suitable for mediation in advance of Mr. Blockley’s departure.”
“In view of the number and complexity of the issues I am not optimistic that we will be able to explore the issues and produce an agreed joint statement in that time frame in a form which would be helpful to the parties or the court, although we will obviously do our best.”
“The joint statement … will almost certainly not be in a fit state for filing with the court.”
“The proposal is not for a joint report to submit to the court but one which can be used in mediation. In those circumstances the report would not need to be in a form appropriate for the court at this stage, merely a working document to assist with mediation.”
“There are powerful policy reasons for admitting in evidence as exceptions to the without prejudice rule in only the very clearest of cases. Unless this highly beneficial rule is most scrupulously and jealously protected it will all too readily become eroded.” (c) In Unilever Robert Walker LJ referred on a number of occasions in his judgment to the abuse of privilege and the need for something “oppressive, dishonest or dishonourable” in the defendant’s conduct at the without prejudice meeting in order for the without prejudice protection to fall away.”
“It is not the mere inconsistency between an admission in a pleaded case or a stated position, with the mere possibility that such a case or position, if persisted in, may lead to perjury, that loses the admitting party the protection of the privilege: see the first holding in Fazil-Alizadeh. It is the fact that the privilege is itself abused that does so. It is not an abuse of the privilege to tell the truth even where the truth is contrary to one’s case. That after all is what the without prejudice rule is all about, to encourage parties to speak frankly to one another in aid of reaching a settlement, and the public interest in that rule is very great and not to be sacrificed save in truly exceptional and needy circumstances.”