“Bases of Plea not accepted by Crown. All parties agreed factual disputes could be determined on submissions and no need for live evidence. [Co-defendant] - culpability lower end sig with some lesser role factors; Baso – lesser role. Both – Harm at very top for Cat 1…”
“My position, on behalf of Mr Baso, is that for a number of reasons we can’t proceed to a full Newton if one is required involving the calling of evidence today. One of those reasons is that without an interpreter, Mr Baso wouldn’t have been able to give evidence and be cross examined, but his English is good enough if we – the matter were to be resolved and to proceed to sentence, Your Honour having heard submissions.”
“I cannot see that this does require a Newton hearing because I do not think there are any really important disputed facts we need to determine or resolve… Turning back to Mr Baso, it seems to me there are stronger lesser role submissions to be made on his behalf and while I might be sceptical about some of the assertions he makes, it seems to me I do not necessarily need to hear evidence to determine them.”
“I think I had indicated my primary submission is Your Honour can determine this on the basis of submissions… Were the matter to go to a full-blown contested Newton hearing, we wanted to see what [the co-defendant had said at trial] and if it was anything helpful… … …much of what was put within the basis of plea is a matter of either personal mitigation or based on unsubstantiated accounts, some material now having been uploaded. But once again, it still is not evidence per se unless it were to be called.”
“The parties agree that any differences can be addressed and have been addressed by submissions to me rather than requiring evidence, and I agree with that course. It is the principal issue here, it does not require the determination [of] disputed facts, but rather determination of role which is a matter for judicial valuation.”