“to touch your heart as you have touched mine”
“Kristina was standing behind a glass counter and I calmly asked if we could speak. She ignored me so I asked, ‘is that it?’, referring to our friendship. She replied ‘yes’ and so I said, ‘so you are just going to give up on our friendship when I have done absolutely nothing wrong?’ Again, Kristina simply replied, ‘yes’. I then said, ‘well you know what, if that is the case’ and began to take my watch off that Kristina had given me for my birthday. I threw the watch at waist height onto a desk behind Kristina. This was meant to be a symbolic gesture of our friendship ending. The watch did not make contact with Kristina and I certainly did not throw the watch directly at her… Nothing more was said between Kristina and me. No security was called and Kristina did not appear distressed or upset.”
“John came in the shop when I was working, stood in front of my counter, leaned towards me and waved right in my face saying ‘hello, are we not speaking?’ So I replied ‘no, I don’t want to talk to you’. John then took off his watch and threw it at me, which landed on the floor. At that moment, I was scared of John as he looked very angry and it seemed as though he would get aggressive so I said, ‘if you want to talk, we can do this outside work’. But I didn’t talk to him as I said that only because I had customers… so he stormed out of the shop…”
“Many months ago, Ms Kristina Kleina… asked me to proof read her letter of submission for a place at your University to which I duly pointed out minor spelling mistakes… In the draft letter shown to me to be sent to you, she stated that she engages in the sport of either volleyball or netball (I think the former but am not 100% certain) and that this was developed her ability to work in a team. I questioned that she should put this information in her letter as having known her for over a year that that information was a blatant lie and that she has no interest in any sport whatsoever. She replied ‘they won’t check’. I sincerely hope that she did not lie on her application supporting letter to gain entry to your University and include the information about actively taking part in sport whilst at college… If your investigations show that she did lie on her letter, I sincerely hope that your University will take appropriate action, and if she did not lie then I wish her well in her course. Should you require any further information you can contact me on [number given]…”
“John Rayner has come in to my shop on a number of times [bragging] that he has got someone to lie for him about offering him a job, but because of the allegations that Jimmy was supposed to have said, he is saying that they no longer want him. He said he would use this to claim more money from them.”
“I was still very distressed and shaken that such a serious accusation had been made. Sheryl could tell when I walked in that I was upset. She enquired as to what was wrong and I was close to tears as I told her that James had accused me of sexually assaulting a member of his staff and that his accusation had been made in Marlands in front of two security guards and that I had been to the police to report the incident. I felt that I should be honest and upfront about the accusation now that Sheryl was going to be my employer.”
“Re Job offered on Tuesday3 April 2018 Dear John, After much thought we have decided to withdraw our offer of the full-time job we offered earlier this month that was due to commence on Tuesday 8th May (Monday 7th being the bank holiday). Even though the work we offered, 40 hours a week at£12.00 per hour plus fuel allowance for deliveries made, with your duties being split between both delivery and office clerical work, it would however have involved you being directly in contact with our customers and suppliers. Because of the impending large events/contracts we are undertaking in the near future we cannot take the risk of being even remotely acquainted with any potential scandal in any way at this time. We thank you for being honest and upfront regarding your current situation and sympathise but due to the statements being made against you, unfortunately we are rescinding the offer we made to you for the position we currently have available. We apologise for the inconvenience this may cause as we found you to be polite, aware and diligent and knowledgeable and a perfect match for all aspects of the job we offered for our business. We wish you well in your future employment search. Yours faithfully, Sheryl Dowd Director.”
“I have been approached on multiple occasions by both parties in relation to the events of19/04/2018 and my recollection of the event in regards to what was said by both Mr Seaborne-Hawkins (sic) and Mr Rayner during their altercation. Due to the time that has passed since the19/4/2018 and the numerous incidents and people I have dealt with in both my work life and personal life in that time, I am unable to accurately recall the event in its entirety in regard to alleged comments made by either party. In 2018 in the time immediately following the incident, when the event was fresh in my mind, I may have had recollections of what had been said, however now that it has been over a year since the incident so I cannot 100% confirm the alleged comments made by either party. I submitted a factual incident report on the day of the incident which was sufficient with my employer at the time. I am aware that both parties have a copy of this report which stands as my statement in relation to the incident. I therefore feel that any other recollection of the incident on the19/4/2018 that I may have could possibly have been influenced by hearsay, 3rd party versions of the event or other factors. I would like to add that considering I am being referred to as a witness in this case, I have only been contacted by legal representatives from either side very recently… As I have made clear in both this statement and phone conversations with Mr Mathew Howe [Claimant’s solicitor] I am unable to remember anything in regards to what was said on the date of the incident, if called as a witness I will still be unable to remember what was allegedly said by either party and that questioning and evidence that may be shown will not have any impact on whether I remember anything. The event was so long ago and has no relevance in my life for it to be important enough to recall in exact detail. I have been told by Mr Howe that his client believes that me being questioned in court might jog my memory and make me remember. I am certain this will not be the case and in a way I interpret this as an attempt to pressure me into incorrectly recalling the events of the day in question. In closing I will say that if I am asked to court to appear as a witness I will still 100% be unable to remember any alleged comments made by either party and will be of no use to either party involved in this case.”
“Date and time of incident: 17.45 19.04.2018 Location of incident: First floor between Loft Ladder and Management Nature of incident: Disagreement between 2 tenants Factual description: Control called for security to go to the Loft Ladder because there had been a report of a disturbance involving 2 tenants of the Loft Ladder, Myself (S4) and [redacted, but assumed to be Mr Teodorescu] (S4) made out way [to] the first floor and when we arrived Jim Seabourne Hawkins (The Cave) and John Rainer [sic] (the little Indian Bazaar) were in the middle of a loud aggressive exchange outside of the 1st floor mirror doors. I managed to separate the 2 of them and sent Jim out to the shop floor to wait with [redacted] whilst we found out what the dispute was about. After another exchange the 2 men were separated again, once we had been told what the incident was about John and Jim were both advised to avoid each other and seek help from the police in dealing with this issue. Police were not called for this by security.”
“On the19th April 2018 , our client was walking through The Marlands Shopping Centre… when you approached a security guard, Martin Barfoot… You made an allegation to Mr Barfoot, out loud in front of other shoppers, that our client had sexually assaulted Kristina Kleina, [an] employee who works for you…”
“James, Dorin and Martin followed me until we were all standing outside the doors of the management office. Martin enquired as to what had happened. I explained that James had just accused me of sexual assaulting (sic) a member of his staff [and he identifies a still from the CCTV when this conversation happened].”
“James then attempted to follow me through the doors but was prevented from doing so by Dorin. This is shown by the CCTV … Samantha then joined James and both gestured and shouted at me through the glass doors, whilst I was explaining to Martin everything that had just occurred… I sat in the management office with Claire [Claire Heaven, the administrator of the Marlands Centre] in complete distress, attempting to fight back tears. I simply could not believe that James had made such a serious accusation which was completely untrue. An incident report was written by Martin… The incident report records that I was advised to seek police advice in relation to the accusations made about me. Later that evening I went to Southampton Central Police Station and spoke to PCEO Wicks seeking advice on the accusation. He advised me it was a civil matter.”
“Just so you know Jim and Sam are saying I sexually assaulted you, so unless you can prove that I suggest you get them to write me an apology or expect a visit from the police.”
“You have 24 hours” “You now have 23 hours” “You now have 22 hours” “Don’t think I will stop counting – you now have 21 hours”
“you will not talk to her [Kristina]. You assaulted her when you threw a watch at her and we’re going to the police about you.”
“SS and her husband then walked out and walked to the lifts and I was still speaking with [Steve Wright] and SS turned around and came to where I was and said ‘KK is working tomorrow, and I don’t want you to go anywhere near my shop and speak to KK at all. SS’s husband then comes over and calls me scum. I then asked SS’s husband what he called me and then he responded by saying you heard and then we both squared up to each other but there was no physical contact… I then suggested that we go to the Marlands management office to sort this out and I started to walk towards there. SS’s husband was then confronted by a security guard who asked what is happening and he pointed to me and stated that I had sexually assaulted a member of his staff. I requested [that they] keep the discs of evidence etc. and I paid£10 to get it.”
“… John and myself started to briskly walk down towards the manager’s office side by side. I told John that he was just a trouble maker, to which John replied the he wasn’t and I said ‘yes you are, look at you you’re causing trouble now.’ I then said again ‘you’re a troublemaker’. John started to turn to face me, at this point there were two security guards, Mr Martin Barfoot and another security guard called Dorin with us. Martin stepped in front of John with his hands on his shoulders directing him backwards through the mirrored doors. I was stood outside of the Rockbottom toy store with Dorin approximated 15ft from the doors. As Martin and John went through the doors, John shouted extremely loudly over the shoulder of Martin ‘you wanna tell your wife to stop drinking piss’. It was loud enough for the whole shopping centre to have heard. I was extremely distressed at this outburst and I want around Dorin. He tried to stop me, but didn’t physically touch me at all. I went over to the doors and opened it. Martin appeared to be restraining John against the back wall with his hands still on his shoulders. I then quite loudly said ‘how dare you shout something like that, what the hell has that got to do with anyone, you’re disgusting’. At this time, my wife had come down to the office and I turned to her and said ‘you want to hear what he just shouted about you, he said you need to stop drinking piss’. My wife then approached the doors and said to John, ‘you’re a pest John’. He said he wasn’t, then she said, ‘Kristina just wanted you to leave her alone and you keep pestering her, that makes you a pest.’ She then turned and walked the opposite way and didn’t reply about what he said about her… I would like to make clear that I have never made the statements that were attributed to me in the Claimant’s pleadings. I never accused John of sexually assaulting Kristina Kleina, I only ever said that he was not to speak to her as he had assaulted her by throwing the watch at her. I did not say this in front of any security guards…”
“… I received a phone call from Gavin, who is a colleague in the loft ladder. He told me that John had called him out of the shop to the balcony area where he stands to show him court papers and he told Gavin that he was taking us to court and it was going to cost us over£100,000 . John would have known that Gavin would inform is of this encounter, and I believed that it was just a scare tactic to try and intimidate us into paying him money. Gavin also told us that John had said to him that if you add sexual to the charge it has to be taken more seriously. Gavin refused to be a witness, as he is frightened and alarmed by John’s overall behaviour.”
“You need to sort him out”