“Based on a review of information available, the Review has found that no redress is due to the Business. In reaching this conclusion the Review has considered, given that hedging was a condition of lending, what alternative IRHP the Business would have purchased at the time of the original sale, if all Regulatory Requirements had been met. The Review has concluded that the Business would have purchased the same IRHP product and that the failure to meet certain Regulatory Requirements did not impact upon the choice of IRHP purchased by the Business. ”
“If you would like to discuss the Review in further detail, or provide any additional information you believe should be considered, then please complete and return Section B of the attached Customer Reply Form (Appendix 2), and upon receipt the Bank will contact you to discuss this matter.”
“This agreement provides that we take a percentage of whatever you win. These agreements are often suitable for debt collection and financial mis-selling cases during the redress process.”
“… The only basis for the case I can give to you is no win no fee. If you are interested please let me know criteria and terms and conditions.”
“1. The claim has already run through the scheme and whilst there is an invitation to reply to AIB/ the Independent Reviewer with any issues regarding the decision, there is no formal appeal process and there is no structured forum to hear the appeal once the decision has been made. If we advance the arguments above there is nothing to stop AIB saying “I see your points, but my decision remains”; and 2. The Claim is time barred, so the scheme is all we have (we are instructing counsel on this issue currently as to whether or not alternative arguments for limitation are available-this may change the state of play for Mr Tariq). To combat these issues we would suggest a wider campaign approach including FCA involvement and media pressure to try and force the issue through the Scheme. I feel that both would be sensitive to the case because the absence of an appeal process is a key gripe for all claimants; that seems to be justified in the light of this decision. The FCA would be particularly wary of the limitation issue - they initially told claimants it was unnecessary to seek legal advice. However, this obviously puts a considerable dent in the prospects of success, which I would say are under 50%.”
“I explained all of this to the client. He has no money to pay up front. However, he said that he needs help and would be willing to run a 50% contingency fee agreement. Marc [Thurlow] and I share the view that this would reflect the risk involved, but obviously it is a substantial risk. Assuming that the expert (Nick Stoop) would also enter some form of contingent agreement, what would your thoughts be on us progressing the case on this basis?”
“I agree to have the agreement on 50% no win no fee basis on the total of net amount.”
“If you are agreeing on… those terms then I am ready to sign the amended contract.”
“We have discussed your case in detail. Having reviewed the document from Allied Irish Bank dated15 October 2013 we are, frankly, shocked at their decision, and consider it to be deeply regrettable that you find yourself in this situation. However, there are significant risks involved for our firm in taking on your case on a no win no fee basis. Most importantly, these are: 1. Your complaint has already run its course through the Scheme, and with no proper avenue for appeal there is nothing to stop Allied Irish Bank deciding that their original decision is correct; and 2. Your 6 year statutory time period has expired, meaning that if we are unable to achieve the satisfactory result under the Scheme, AIB would be able to defend any claim through the courts using a limitation defence. These risks are reflected in the 50% fee plus VAT that we have agreed in principle (subject to our discussions regarding disbursements). They also have a bearing on the way in which we will approach your case. Our intention is to appeal AIB’s decision by producing comprehensive written submissions, and also to use a campaign involving the media and contact with the FCA directly in order to exert as much pressure on AIB and the FCA as possible. Further detail of the work that we will carry out is contained in the Client Engagement Letter attached.”
“Following our discussions we have agreed that we will begin work on your file immediately. The initial stage of our work will involve writing to Allied Irish Bank in response to their Redress offer dated15 October 2013 , indicating that we will be challenging their decision and requesting documentation from them by way of the provisions of theData Protection Act 1998 and further time to properly formulate your claim. Once this is received we will review your file thoroughly and will draft written submissions to the bank addressing the mis-sale of the swap and the loss that you have suffered as a result. We will also instruct a derivatives expert to review your case and produce a report to be used within the written submissions.”
“In view of these difficulties we will also correspond directly with the Financial Conduct Authority, and will attempt to expose your case to the media, both of which, we hope, will add pressure on Allied Irish Bank to consider your case again in light of the written submissions that we will prepare.”
“Broadly, the important elements of the agreement are as follows: • If we obtain compensation for you, our fee for the work that we carry out on your behalf will be 50% of the compensation that you are awarded plus VAT; and • If you cancel the agreement in certain circumstances prior to the conclusion of the claim then you will be liable to pay us a fee as set out in the Agreement. Please read the Agreement carefully, following which we will discuss it with you to ensure that you are comfortable with the way it works. If you have any immediate questions please do not hesitate to ask.”
“The information in this letter, along with the Terms of Business and the Agreement enclosed will form the basis of the contract between us. Once we have discussed the Agreement with you, we will require a signed copy to be returned to us as soon as possible.”
“I write to inform you that I fundamentally object to the decision and will be formally appealing it. I am currently seeking legal advice and therefore require 21 days [to] respond more substantively. Please acknowledge receipt of this letter without delay.”
“We have signed this agreement on the understanding of ‘no win no fee basis’ and in case if we are not successful to win then we are not responsible for any disbursement fee, barrister opinion fee and all miscellaneous expenses.”
“Your claim against the Bank in respect of the mis-selling of the Derivative Transaction, whether that claim is prosecuted under the Financial Conduct Authority (or any successor) Redress Scheme and/or through mediation and/or through other non-contentious avenues and regardless of the head(s) of claim under which it is prosecuted.”
“The total financial value of any sums or concessions or other benefits offered by or on behalf of the Bank and accepted by You in relation to the Claim including but not limited to: 1.4.1 payments of cash; 1.4.2 gestures of goodwill and ex gratia payments… 1.4.8 payments to compensate You for your consequential and other direct losses… 1.4.10 interest awarded in respect of any constituents of Compensation detailed at clauses 1.4.1 to 1.4.9…” 1.4.1 payments of cash; 1.4.2 gestures of goodwill and ex gratia payments… 1.4.8 payments to compensate You for your consequential and other direct losses… 1.4.10 interest awarded in respect of any constituents of Compensation detailed at clauses 1.4.1 to 1.4.9…”
“Our Fee is 50% of your Compensation plus VAT.”
“our total charges that will be invoiced to You including any Fee, Cancellation Fee or other fee however calculated, Disbursements and Expenses all plus VAT at the prevailing rate.”
“2. What this agreement covers Work we do for You to pursue your Claim for Compensation from the Bank 3. What this agreement does not cover Any court proceedings against the Bank in relation to your Claim.”
“We will: 4.1 subject to our professional rules and regulations and our professional obligations to third parties, act in your best interests in pursuit of your Claim and use our reasonable endeavours to obtain Compensation for You (this is likely to include our instructing experts on your behalf); 4.2 explain to You the risks and benefits of the actions we are taking in connection with your Claim; 4.3 give You our best advice about whether to make or accept any offer of settlement in connection with your Claim; 4.4 fund the Principal Disbursement; 4.5 not incur any other Disbursement without your prior written consent, such consent not to be unreasonably withheld…”
“5.2 You agree to instruct the Bank to pay any Compensation to Us and You authorise Us to deduct our Charges from the Compensation before accounting to You. You will at our request sign an authority to the Bank that any money due to You be paid to Us; 5.3 You will notify Us immediately if You receive any offer of Compensation or receive any Compensation from the Bank; 5.4 You will pay our Charges within 7 days of receiving our invoice by email or otherwise unless we have already deducted them from any Compensation received by Us.”
“If You agree Compensation our Fee becomes payable. If the Compensation is agreed or otherwise arises in parts then our Fee will be paid in parts also as the amount of each part of the Compensation is ascertained.”
“…You will pay to Us a fee being the greater of: 7.1.1 The Cancellation Fee; or 7.1.2 where You have received any offer of Compensation, whether or not You choose to accept it, our Fee is calculated on the basis that the offer were accepted.” 7.1.1 The Cancellation Fee; or 7.1.2 where You have received any offer of Compensation, whether or not You choose to accept it, our Fee is calculated on the basis that the offer were accepted.”
“If we terminate this Agreement: … 8.3 because we advise the likely Compensation does not make the Claim commercially viable to pursue, then You do not have to pay us any Fee or Cancellation Fee; 8.4 for any other reason then You do not have to pay Us any Fee or Cancellation Fee.” 8.3 because we advise the likely Compensation does not make the Claim commercially viable to pursue, then You do not have to pay us any Fee or Cancellation Fee; 8.4 for any other reason then You do not have to pay Us any Fee or Cancellation Fee.”
“This Agreement incorporates our standard Terms of Business a copy of which has been supplied to You. If there is any conflict between this Agreement and the Terms of Business then the terms of this Agreement shall prevail.”
“The Fee shall be calculated by reference to the financial value of the Compensation as determined by Us in our reasonable discretion following the making of the relevant offer by the Bank. If you do not agree with out determination you may give us notice of that fact within 7 days and then the following procedure will apply to ascertain the Fee.”
“Please note that we are currently taking instructions from our Client and we will be contacting you again in due course with further particulars of that appeal.”
“Since issuing the Initial Redress Outcome Letter and receipt of your Client’s response dated22 November 2013 , the Bank is currently reconsidering the application of the Review methodology in your Client’s case and, therefore, the conclusion it reached in its Initial Redress Outcome Letter. In light of that, perhaps your Client would be minded to delay issuing its substantive response to the Initial Redress Outcome Letter and withdraw its Subject Access Request at this stage until it has received the updated outcome letter from the Bank. The Bank expects to be able to issue the updated outcome letter by28 February 2014 at the latest.”
“The important elements of the Agreement are as follows: if we obtain compensation for you, our fee for the work we carry out on your behalf will be 50% of the compensation you will be awarded plus VAT”
“…. the claim form was obviously intended to be read by lawyers and the explanatory note by laymen. It is the terms of the claim form which govern the legal relationship between the parties. In construing the form, I think that one should start with the assumption that a layman who read the explanatory note and did not venture into the claim form itself was being given an accurate account of the effect of the transaction…”
“ the total financial value of any sums or concessions or other benefits offered by or on behalf of the Bank obtained by Us and accepted by You in relation to the Claim…”
“ You may terminate this Agreement at any time by notifying Us in writing. If You terminate this Agreement then You will pay to Us a fee being the greater of: 7.1.1 the cancellation fee; or 7.1.2 where You have received any offer of Compensation whether or not you choose to accept it, Our Fee calculated on the basis that the offer Fee were accepted.” 7.1.1 the cancellation fee; or 7.1.2 where You have received any offer of Compensation whether or not you choose to accept it, Our Fee calculated on the basis that the offer Fee were accepted.”
“Since issuing the Initial Redress Outcome Letter and receipt of your Client’s response dated22nd November 2013 , the Bank is currently reconsidering the application of the Review methodology in your Client’s case and, therefore, the conclusion it reached in its Initial Redress Outcome Letter. In light of that, perhaps your Client would be minded to delay issuing its substantive response to the Initial Redress Outcome Letter and withdraw its Subject Access Request at this stage until it has received the updated outcome letter from the Bank. The Bank expects to be able to issue the updated outcome letter by28 February 2014 at the latest.”
“Delivery of these Terms of Business to you, at any time during the period we are instructed by you, forms part of the contract between us from time to time. Subject to any prior agreement between us these Terms will apply to work undertaken both before and after these Terms had been delivered to you…”
“ A recent change in tax rules requires the Bank to make a tax deduction of 20% on the compensatory interest payment included within the Customer’s redress payment. Therefore, tax will be withheld and the Bank will pay this to HMRC on behalf of the Customer. ”
“I agree to have the agreement on 50% no win no fee basis on the total of net amount.”
“Your 6 year statutory time period has expired, meaning that if we are unable to achieve a satisfactory result under the Scheme, AIB would be able to defend any claim through the courts using a limitation defence.”
“But the essence of the reasoning in those cases is that the fact that the risk to which the claimant was exposed by the defendant’s negligence might not eventuate did not mean that the claimant did not suffer loss as a result of being exposed to that risk… It is the possibility of actual financial harm that constitutes the loss. That possibility is present even if there is also the possibility that the claimant would be better off as a result of being exposed to the risk.”
“ Whilst we consider it to be unlikely, as the case develops, taking the claim to court may become possible. In these circumstances the rules prevent us from acting for you under a contingency fee agreement and we will therefore have to transfer our work to a different kind of funding arrangement. This is provided for at clause 9 of the Contingency Fee agreement…”
“… the distinction between factual and legal statements was difficult to draw at the best of times, and has now been discredited elsewhere in the law. It is therefore submitted that in the law of deceit misstatements of law now fall to be treated on a similar footing to misstatements of fact, though given the uncertainty inherent in case law development and statutory interpretation, proof that a defendant knowingly misrepresented the law is likely in practice to be hard to come by.”
“With regards to further dialogue with AIB, I would have explained that whilst it was always open for the Defendants to continue writing to AIB in pursuit of their complaint in the context of the Review, and that the Initial Review Outcome invited the Defendants to provide further information if necessary, the Review did not provide any formal avenue by which the Defendants could raise and articulate an appeal. On this basis I would have explained that there was no known obligation on AIB to overturn their decision, and this, combined with Defendants limitation position, meant that it was likely that the Initial Review Outcome would not be overturned and would be AIB’s final response… I can recall in general terms (without being able to recall the precise exchanges) explaining to [Mr Tariq], during this call, that on the basis of our conclusions the only forum within which to pursue the matter further was the Review, and that because there was no formal appeal mechanism in the Review (and litigation was very unlikely to be available as leverage), the prospects of obtaining a successful result were significantly less than 50%...”
“…He also said that there was no formal appeal procedure and that the redress letter appeared to be AIB’s final response…”
“Your complaint has already run its course through the Scheme, and with no proper avenue for appeal there is nothing to stop Allied Irish Bank deciding that their original decision is correct…”
“If you would like to discuss the Review in further detail, or provide any additional information you believe should be considered, then please complete and return Section B of the attached Customer Reply Form (appendix A2), and upon receipt, we will contact you to discuss this matter.”
“(1) Whether or not any order is in force under section 56, a solicitor and his client may, before or after or in the course of the transaction of any non-contentious business by the solicitor, make an agreement as to his remuneration in respect of that business. (2) The agreement may provide for the remuneration of the solicitor by a gross sum or by reference to an hourly rate, or by a commission or percentage, or by a salary, or otherwise, and it may be made on the terms that the amount of the remuneration stipulated for shall or shall not include all or any disbursements made by the solicitor in respect of searches, plans, travelling, taxes, fees or other matters. (3) The agreement shall be in writing and signed by the person to be bound by it or his agent in that behalf. (4) Subject to subsections (5) and (7), the agreement may be sued and recovered on or set aside in the like manner and on the like grounds as an agreement not relating to the remuneration of a solicitor. (5) If on any assessment of costs the agreement is relied on by the solicitor and objected to by the client as unfair or unreasonable, the costs officer may enquire into the facts and certify them to the court, and if from that certificate it appears just to the court that the agreement should be set aside, or the amount payable under it reduced, the court may so order and may give such consequential directions as it thinks fit. (6) Subsection (7) applies where the agreement provides for the remuneration of the solicitor by reference to an hourly rate. (7) If, on the assessment of any costs, the agreement is relied on by the solicitor and the client objects to the amount of the costs (but is not alleging that the agreement is unfair or unreasonable), the costs officer may enquire into- a) the number of hours worked by the solicitor ; and b) whether the number of hours worked by him was excessive.”
“ By s.9 the Court may enforce an agreement if it appears that it is in all respects fair and reasonable. With regard to the fairness of such an agreement, it appears to me that this refers to the mode of obtaining the agreement, and that if a solicitor makes an agreement with a client who fully understands and appreciates that agreement that satisfies the requirement as to fairness. But the agreement must also be reasonable, and in determining whether it is so the matters covered by the expression “fair” cannot be re-introduced. As to this part of the requirements of the statute, I am of opinion that the meaning is that when an agreement is challenged the solicitor must not only satisfy the Court that the agreement was absolutely fair with regard to the way in which it was obtained, but must also satisfy the Court that the terms of that agreement are reasonable. If in the opinion of the Court they are not reasonable having regard to the kind of work the solicitor has to do under the agreement, the Court are bound to say that the solicitor, and an officer of the Court, has no right to an unreasonable payment for the work he has done and ought not to have made an agreement for remuneration in such a manner. On this question it is quite clear to me that we cannot arrive at any other conclusion than that arrived at by the Divisional Court. It is impossible to say that work which according to information given by the taxing master to the Divisional Court would be properly remunerated by a sum of£20 can be reasonably charged at£100 . The decision of the Court below must be affirmed, and the appeal dismissed.”
“O (1.1) you treat your clients fairly; O (1.6) you only enter fee agreements with your clients that are legal, and which you consider are suitable for the client’s needs and take account of the client’s best interests; O (1.12) clients are in a position to make informed decisions about the services they need, how their matter will be handled and the options available to them; O (1.13) Clients receive the best possible information, both at the time of engagement and when appropriate as their matter progresses, about the overall costs of their matter.”