“Q. It wasn't making you any money, was it? 8 A. If you are solely money driven, I can see you would be 9 annoyed with that. I'm not. 10 Q. But it wasn't making you any money, was it? 11 A. And if that was still the case today, I wouldn't be 12 bothered. I was building up a business.”
“... caller phoned from 07922055702. Looking at the previous calls from this number, we had one just a number of minutes earlier from someone named Andy Jones which we transferred to Claire. Cheers, Anthony. He also gave Claire an earful and then hung up. I have no idea who he is. Bloody prank caller.”
“So we have got cabling and empty boxes in Mrs Roe's car. 15 We have something in your car that brings the suspension 16 down that you can't recall. 17 But what essentially we have here is you and Mrs Roe 18 taking a large amount of equipment and stock out of the 19 warehouse, when ostensibly you are saying you are trying 20 to clear out your loft and home office? 21 A. Yes. 22 Q. That's not consistent, is it? If you were seriously 23 saying that you were clearing out your loft and your 24 home office, you wouldn't be bringing back enough stock, 25 material, whatever it is, to take your car down Page 140 1 seriously on its suspension, and also to fill the back 2 of Mrs Roe's car? 3 A. Not correct. We were taking boxes away, because this 4 wasn't going to be the only trips to our warehouse. 5 There was more equipment to be taken up at a later 6 stage. We needed boxes in order to pack that material. 7 In addition, I was going to be doing a lot of the 8 work on the loft conversion myself, including the -- all 9 the electrical work. Hence I needed cable. But 10 I didn't want all the surplus tools, equipment, 11 et cetera, that I had at home. So I think that's 12 perfectly consistent with what I was doing.”
“A. I have no recollection of this. 2 Q. But that's what this shows, doesn't it? Someone has 3 switched it from continuous to motion. 4 A. If that's what you say. 5 JUDGE MACKIE: No, you are asked to give your best 6 recollection. 7 A. I have no recollection of that change. 8 MR QUINEY: You were the person who was in charge of the 9 CCTV system, weren't you? 10 A. Yes, that would be reasonable. 11 Q. In fact you were the person who knew how to use it? 12 A. Yes. 13 Q. So if there was a change, even if you can't recollect, 14 out of all the people in the building, you are the 15 person who had responsibility for that change? 16 A. Not necessarily. I mean if a change was done that 17 I didn't know about, unless I happened to observe that 18 there was an icon missing on a system that I didn't use 19 very often, I would be unaware of this. So if I'd made 20 the change, because I was the main operator of the 21 system, yes, I would be aware of it. 22 Q. But we can see, if you turn over the page, at 4.45, come 23 out of the building -- that's your van, isn't it? 24 A. The car, yes. 25 Q. The car. Inside is your motorcyc A. Yes. 2 Q. There's no one else shown on the CCTV footage, is there? 3 A. Not within this (inaudible) view. 4 Q. No. So what is likely to have happened, I put to you, 5 is that in fact you changed it from continuous to motion 6 detecting on 16 February? 7 A. I cannot comment on that because I don't recall that”