“The lists and figures supplied under this section, or the information mentioned in sub-section (2C) that is so supplied, must be as accurate as is reasonably practicable in the light of the information in the possession of the union at the time when it complies with sub-section (1)(a).”
“I accept that there will be a duty on the union to obtain any relevant documents from union officers and employees and to collate and analyse that information to enable it to supply the relevant lists and figures to the employer as accurately as it reasonably can. Moreover, it would in my view be in breach of the duty to provide information drawn solely from documentary records when the union knew that the information was actually wrong. The duty is more than simply to replicate in a mechanical way the information in the union’s possession. However, in my view what is required, as in the previous incarnations of this duty, is that the union should assist the employer by drawing upon information it already has.”
“5. You have failed to provide a clear definition of those to be balloted. It is not clear who will be regarded (or who you regard) as working on a TfL contract ‘either on a full time or part time basis’. As you must know, whilst some employees who are drivers, or who work within engineering or supervisory grades regularly work on TfL contracts for the whole, or part of their regular work, others do not. Of those others, some will never work on TfL contracts and others will do so occasionally with differing degrees of frequency. (Page 2)…”
“… All the drivers that we identified drive only TfL routes except for four who are on standby but have also been balloted since they might be expected to work on TfL contracts. That number is in any event minimal compared to the overall number being balloted. Those in Engineering grades work on all vehicles which include TfL and commercial. iBus controllers and Route Managers are exclusively TfL. Duty managers are not exclusively TfL but could be expected to carry out some work at least on TfL contracts…”
“… There are about 30 drivers working on commercial routes at Potters Bar. These drivers work TfL routes on rest day working and on overtime. They have therefore been included in the ballot. In any event, the total number of drivers balloted is well over 2,000. Thirty drivers is clearly de minimis in the context of the overall numbers involved. Similar arguments can be made in relation to those in the engineer and supervisory grades categories, who all work at some time or other on TfL contracts, with the possible exception of Potters Bar. Even if that is the case, the same de minimis argument applied. As for ferry drivers, we understand that there are about 20 of them, and their substantive grade is driver, apart from 2 or 3 who do not hold the PCV licence. This role involves them ferrying drivers working on TfL contracts, to and from their relief points and take over points. Thus, as your category indicates, they are associated with the TfL work and are within the description used. Further, given the numbers involved, in the context of the overall numbers included in the ballot, this issue is clearly de minimis.”
“We also note the issue raised by you about it not being clear from the notice of ballot which of our members the description ‘working on the TfL contracts, either on a full time or part time basis’ relates to. Again, we entirely reject that contention; but in the same spirit of co-operation we refer to our letter of1 June 2012 in relation to that issue from which it will be clear that … this description includes all of our members working on any TfL contracts/routes for any of their working time whether directly (such as drivers working wholly on TfL routes) or indirectly (such as engineers servicing vehicles used on TfL and non-TfL routes) and including for example drivers working mainly on non-TfL routes but who work on TfL routes on overtime.”