“I also told her [Ms Alexander] that I need her mother to come in to sign the Contract. She said that is fine and for me to let her know when I want her mother to come in.”
“The reason why I wish to see the client to sign the Contract, is to check that she has agreed to the sale, etc. Although she has signed the client care letter, I do want to make sure that she does actually want to sell this property and she is not being forced to do so.”
“fully understood what was going on and was adamant that she wants to sell this property and purchase another property with her daughter so that she does not have to deal with any maintenance of the house. Her daughter was also there and she also signed the Contract to confirm that she will vacate the property on completion. She said to me that she is using different solicitors with regard to the purchase of 52 Carmonton Road. Walthamstow, E17, she told me she would contact me with her solicitors’ details. The reason why I wanted to see the mother was because the property is in her name and I just wanted to check that she was not being forced to sell the property but she was adamant that she wanted it sold and wanted to live with her daughter. She also told me that she wants to put towards the purchase of her daughter’s property as well (sic), as she will be living in it.”
“I [Ms Butler] said to her that I need confirmation of this in writing from her mother and I will also be doing a letter to her mother about this as well. She also confirmed that her mother is happy to continue at the price of£145,000 . I said to her that she should obtain a valuation from an Estate Agent to make sure that this is the correct price she is selling the property at. I said, again, I will be writing to Ms Hill about this as well”
“I would also suggest that you contact an Estate Agent to check the value of the property, to ensure that you are selling at the correct price…”
“If the Defendant had dealt with Mrs Hill’s matter to the standard of a reasonable and competent conveyancing solicitor they would have discovered that Mrs Hill had been suffering from dementia from approximately the year 2000 and at the material time she was not capable of understanding and executing legal documents pertaining to her property. The Claimant will reply [sic] on the Psychiatric Report of Dr. N. Jeganathan dated 12.07.2005”
“It is denied there were “vast differences” in the style of Mrs Hill’s signature. Further, if and so far as the Claimant alleges that the signatures of Mrs Hill confirming her instructions to Fellowes were (as is implied) forged, the Claimant is required to prove the same by expert evidence. Likewise, if and so far as the Claimant alleges that the signature of Mrs Hill on the agreement for sale was forged, the Claimant is required to prove the same by way of expert evidence and to explain its apparent witness by an independent third party and self-described “contract administrator”
“Whilst [the report of Dr Jeganathan] states that in June 2003 Mrs Hill had become reliant upon Ms Alexander to manage her financial affairs, at or about this time she required only daytime respite, “responded appropriately during interaction” and “retained her ability to recognise people who were familiar”
“1. In section 1.2 you quote that you are asked whether Mrs Hill’s state would have been apparent to a reasonably competent solicitor, but you omit the other question as to whether Mrs Hill would have had the capacity to instruct a Solicitor in the first place. Why? 2. Secondly, you state in paragraph 3.4 of your Report that Dr Jeganathan’s comments were rather vague. In which way? 3. You also state in that paragraph that you believe that Mrs Hill had the capacity to make decisions. How can you state this, when Dr Greenwood and Dr Jeganathan who had both examined the client and came to a totally different conclusion? 4. Similarly…you state that Mrs Hill had “mild to moderate” dementia. Why have you reached a different opinion to your two colleagues who had actually examined her at the time and both believed her mental functions to be severely impaired? 5. Finally, how badly does a patient need to be mentally impaired in your expert opinion to cease to have the capacity to make decisions?”
“1. I do think that Mrs Hill was competent to instruct a solicitor in the first place. I see no reason why she shouldn’t have been competent because she had dementia and I feel she did have capacity. 2. Dr Jeganathan’s comments were vague because they didn’t answer specific points. 3. I can state this because my own reading of the information is different to that of Dr Jeganathan and Dr Greenwood. 4. I think the evidence argues against this being a severe dementia. 5. A patient may be mentally impaired, yet still have the capacity to make decisions. From my reading of the case Mrs Hill was able to instruct a solicitor. The solicitor did not feel there were any issues with her capacity. This to me means that she probably did have capacity and ability to make a perfectly valued opinion.”
“It is obviously sensible that if a single joint expert is (unusually) to be subject to cross-examination, then he or she should know in advance what topics are to be covered, and where fresh evidence is to be adduced for his or her consideration, and this should be done in advance of the hearing.”
“cognitive function can be quite impaired and yet a patient can still have free will and sense of what they want and what they do not want. It would be egregious to deny patients with dementia a say in their own care and a say in the disposal of their possessions. Just because their intellectual capacity is reduced it does not mean that they do not have the right to still make decisions. It is impossible ever to know exactly when the capacity to make decisions is completely lost, but when assessing this medically one would question the patient about how she understands the effect of her decision on other people and if the patient does understand this, even if there is profound cognitive compromise, then I would suggest that capacity is retained. There is evidence from the solicitors that they met the client and she did understand the instructions and was, in fact, quite vehement in her direction to make a sale of the house and she understood the implications of this. Therefore my conclusion is that although she had cognitive problems that may have interfered with her decision making [s]he still had capacity in the sense that this was her opinion at the time and this was the expression of her free will.”
“Many patients with dementia actually come across as quite sociable and engaging and are able to … answer a number of questions reasonably coherently. This all depends on what type of dementia is occurring but I think it would be entirely plausible that someone with mild to moderate dementia, as Mrs Hill, was suffering from, would not be apparent to a solicitor who engages her in conversation for the first time.”
“but as far as I understand it the medical circumstances surrounding Mrs Hill were never discussed with the solicitor and one would not expect them to be discussed.”
“… there is no reason to suppose that actually [Mrs Hill] was not acting with capacity at the time and this was not the expression of her free will.”
“…From my reading of the case Mrs Hill was able to instruct a solicitor. The solicitor did not feel that there were any issues with her capacity. This to me means that she probably did have capacity and ability to make a perfectly valued opinion.”
“I have therefore sent, by telegraphic transfer to your daughter’s account, the sum of£93,859.62 , as requested.”
“There is no note on this file to confirm what then transpired, [after payment was returned to Fellowes on3 November 2003 ] but in accordance with my usual practice, I am fairly sure that I would have spoken to Mrs Hill orally to confirm the beneficiary on the account and she would have told me it was her daughter’s account. I would not have been surprised by this as originally I had been instructed by her that the sale proceeds were going to be sent to Ms Alexander’s solicitor, and in any event as far as I was aware, the whole reason for the sale was for Mrs Hill to move in with Ms Alexander.”